• RFD: Remove comp.unix.user-friendly

    From Usenet Big-8 Management Board@board@big-8.org to news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.user-friendly on Fri Oct 10 10:21:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.announce.newgroups

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the following unmoderated newsgroup.

    comp.unix.user-friendly


    DISTRIBUTION:
    news.announce.newgroups
    news.groups.proposals
    comp.unix.misc
    comp.unix.user-friendly


    PROPONENT: Marco Moock <mmoock@big-8.org>


    RATIONALE:

    Last activity in 2009
    If there is need for discussion, more general groups can be used.


    GROUP:

    comp.unix.user-friendly
    Discussion of UNIX user-friendliness

    Charter:
    UNIX has a reputation of being unfriendly for non-programmers - making
    it difficult to use by those who need not know Unix, such as the
    average user in the commercial business world. This group would be a
    forum for discussion about UNIX user-friendliness and the availability
    of user-friendly software for UNIX.

    Presently, the above is done on an ad-hoc basis on a number of groups
    such as comp.editors, comp.unix.questions, etc. Posts presently
    asking about user-friendly utilities/software for UNIX usually attract
    some flamage and seem out of place in these groups, because of
    non-obvious differences between friendliness of Unix towards
    programmers and unfriendliness towards non-programmers. This group
    would give non-programming users a forum where their type of "user-friendliness" is meant to be the norm, not the exception.

    The following would be considered typical for this group:-

    - To clarify definitions like "user-friendliness" for the relevant
    groups of users.
    - Discussion about what user friendly software (editors, utilites,
    etc) are available for UNIX.
    - Discussion/opinions about ways of making "default" UNIX user setups
    more user-friendly.
    - Announcements of new "user-friendly" software and utilities.
    - Discussion on how UNIX and UNIX software could be made more friendly
    without endangering the work methods of the Unix programmers who feel
    Unix *is* already friendly for them.
    - Discussion on what makes a particular part of UNIX or UNIX software
    so unfriendly/friendly, and for which subgroup of users.

    History:
    comp.unix.user-friendly is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its
    vote for creation by 280:87 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on
    27 Sep 1993.


    PROCEDURE:

    Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
    should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the
    relevant threads in that newsgroup.

    To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to news.groups.proposals.

    All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
    news.groups.proposals.

    If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the
    discussion may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken
    to ensure that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as
    well.

    For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups


    HISTORY OF THIS RFD:

    2025-10-10: 1st RFD (remove)
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