I'm going back-and-forth with Giganews tech support about
my observations:
1) New articles posted on Giganews aren't getting filed, but DO
propagate off-site,
2) Articles posted on other NSP's to misc.test appear to not get
filed on Giganews.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
281 News.GigaNews.Com
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
(posted article using my news client on Giganews to misc.test, which
appeared on other NSP's, but not on either giganews server.)
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
The count and high-water mark for the group is not affected.
It doesn't appear in the overview either:
group misc.test 211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test xover 3967728- 224
xover information follows 3967729 Test YamnWeb2 Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> Sun, 16 Nov 2025 07:01:27 -0500 <20251116.070127.aab2c121@dirge.harmsk.com> 2432 1 Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com misc.test:3967729
However, I can retrieve any of these articles on both news.giganews.com
and news-central.giganews.com _by Message-ID_. So their server(s) know about the articles, but they aren't getting filed in the newsgroup, and
they aren't appearing in the overview.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
BTW, that high-water mark hasn't budged all morning, despite
the posts.
The back-and-forth is getting just a tiny bit draining. They
just asked me to try different news client software. I've
been using "openssl s_client" :/
On Nov 16, 2025 at 10:40:03rC>AM CST, "vallor" <vallor@vallor.earth>
wrote:
I'm going back-and-forth with Giganews tech support about
my observations:
1) New articles posted on Giganews aren't getting filed, but DO
propagate off-site,
2) Articles posted on other NSP's to misc.test appear to not get
filed on Giganews.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
281 News.GigaNews.Com
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
(posted article using my news client on Giganews to misc.test, which appeared on other NSP's, but not on either giganews server.)
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
The count and high-water mark for the group is not affected.
It doesn't appear in the overview either:
group misc.test 211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test xover 3967728-
224 xover information follows 3967729 Test YamnWeb2 Anonymous
User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> Sun, 16 Nov 2025 07:01:27 -0500 <20251116.070127.aab2c121@dirge.harmsk.com> 2432 1
Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com misc.test:3967729
However, I can retrieve any of these articles on both
news.giganews.com and news-central.giganews.com _by Message-ID_.
So their server(s) know about the articles, but they aren't getting
filed in the newsgroup, and they aren't appearing in the overview.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
BTW, that high-water mark hasn't budged all morning, despite
the posts.
The back-and-forth is getting just a tiny bit draining. They
just asked me to try different news client software. I've
been using "openssl s_client" :/
This has been an ongoing problem for Giganews for YEARS. What they
offer compared to other providers is like swiss cheese - full of
holes.
At Sun, 16 Nov 2025 18:25:57 -0000 (UTC), Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
On Nov 16, 2025 at 10:40:03rC>AM CST, "vallor" <vallor@vallor.earth>
wrote:
I'm going back-and-forth with Giganews tech support about
my observations:
1) New articles posted on Giganews aren't getting filed, but DO
propagate off-site,
2) Articles posted on other NSP's to misc.test appear to not get
filed on Giganews.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
281 News.GigaNews.Com
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
(posted article using my news client on Giganews to misc.test, which
appeared on other NSP's, but not on either giganews server.)
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
The count and high-water mark for the group is not affected.
It doesn't appear in the overview either:
group misc.test 211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test xover 3967728-
224 xover information follows 3967729 Test YamnWeb2 Anonymous
User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> Sun, 16 Nov 2025 07:01:27 -0500
<20251116.070127.aab2c121@dirge.harmsk.com> 2432 1
Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com misc.test:3967729
However, I can retrieve any of these articles on both
news.giganews.com and news-central.giganews.com _by Message-ID_.
So their server(s) know about the articles, but they aren't getting
filed in the newsgroup, and they aren't appearing in the overview.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
BTW, that high-water mark hasn't budged all morning, despite
the posts.
The back-and-forth is getting just a tiny bit draining. They
just asked me to try different news client software. I've
been using "openssl s_client" :/
This has been an ongoing problem for Giganews for YEARS. What they
offer compared to other providers is like swiss cheese - full of
holes.
That's a bummer to see.
They finally kicked my ticket up to "Level II tech support", which
I assume will have people that grok NNTP.
BTW, I was news admin for our ISP from our founding in 1994
until we shut down our news servers in the 00's. I keep wanting
to grab the wheel and _fix it_.
On Nov 16, 2025 at 10:41:00rC>PM CST, "vallor" <vallor@vallor.earth>
wrote:
At Sun, 16 Nov 2025 18:25:57 -0000 (UTC), Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
On Nov 16, 2025 at 10:40:03rC>AM CST, "vallor" <vallor@vallor.earth>
wrote:
I'm going back-and-forth with Giganews tech support about
my observations:
1) New articles posted on Giganews aren't getting filed, but DO
propagate off-site,
2) Articles posted on other NSP's to misc.test appear to not get
filed on Giganews.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
281 News.GigaNews.Com
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
(posted article using my news client on Giganews to misc.test,
which appeared on other NSP's, but not on either giganews
server.)
group misc.test
211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test
The count and high-water mark for the group is not affected.
It doesn't appear in the overview either:
group misc.test 211 3506533 461197 3967729 misc.test xover
3967728- 224 xover information follows 3967729 Test YamnWeb2
Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> Sun, 16 Nov 2025
07:01:27 -0500 <20251116.070127.aab2c121@dirge.harmsk.com>
2432 1 Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com misc.test:3967729
However, I can retrieve any of these articles on both
news.giganews.com and news-central.giganews.com _by Message-ID_.
So their server(s) know about the articles, but they aren't
getting filed in the newsgroup, and they aren't appearing in the
overview.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
BTW, that high-water mark hasn't budged all morning, despite
the posts.
The back-and-forth is getting just a tiny bit draining. They
just asked me to try different news client software. I've
been using "openssl s_client" :/
This has been an ongoing problem for Giganews for YEARS. What they
offer compared to other providers is like swiss cheese - full of
holes.
That's a bummer to see.
They finally kicked my ticket up to "Level II tech support", which
I assume will have people that grok NNTP.
BTW, I was news admin for our ISP from our founding in 1994
until we shut down our news servers in the 00's. I keep wanting
to grab the wheel and _fix it_.
Sometime between 2012 and 2014 I subscribed to GigaNews and found a
number of issues. Mostly missing articles that I couldn't fetch at
all, but were present on other providers. At the time I was pulling
text articles to start an archive, but so many failed I moved on to
other providers. Beyond missing articles, it was clear that they had
a widespread overview problem at the time. I had various issues using
a newsreader with their service related to either corrupt or missing
overview data. Sad to hear it is still ongoing. At one time, they had
very well ran infrastructure.
There was a Reddit post in r/usenet somewhat recently that mentioned
the company had basically been taken over by its employees and was in
the process of changing things up. Maybe you'll actually get to one
of the ones who care about the end-user experience.
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