• Added new newsgroups to our hierarchie

    From rek2 hispagatos@rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid to news.admin.hierarchies,news.admin.peerting on Sun Sep 1 17:45:40 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies


    server:
    https://news.hispagatos.org

    Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
    or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
    please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.


    - hispagatos.hacking.ctf
    - hispagatos.hacking.exploits
    - hispagatos.hacking.news

    The ones we had for some time:

    - hispagaos.talk
    - hispagatos.test
    - hispagatos.comunicados
    - hispagatos.ayuda


    We also started last year and also active:

    - alt.2600.madrid

    <3 usenet
    Happy Hacking
    ReK2
    --
    - {gemini,https}://{,rek2.}hispagatos.org - mastodon: @rek2@hispagatos.space
    - [https|gemini]://2600.Madrid - https://hispagatos.space/@rek2
    - https://keyoxide.org/A31C7CE19D9C58084EA42BA26C0B0D11E9303EC5
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  • From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to news.admin.hierarchies on Thu Sep 5 14:44:37 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    On 9/1/2024 7:45 PM, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
    server:
    https://news.hispagatos.org

    Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
    or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
    please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.


    - hispagatos.hacking.ctf
    - hispagatos.hacking.exploits
    - hispagatos.hacking.news

    The ones we had for some time:

    - hispagaos.talk
    - hispagatos.test
    - hispagatos.comunicados
    - hispagatos.ayuda


    We also started last year and also active:

    - alt.2600.madrid

    <3 usenet
    Happy Hacking
    ReK2


    But are those mostly in Spanish or English-language?
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to news.admin.hierarchies on Thu Sep 5 15:43:32 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org> wrote:

    server:
    https://news.hispagatos.org

    Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
    or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
    please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.

    - hispagatos.hacking.ctf
    - hispagatos.hacking.exploits
    - hispagatos.hacking.news

    The ones we had for some time:

    - hispagaos.talk
    - hispagatos.test
    - hispagatos.comunicados
    - hispagatos.ayuda

    We also started last year and also active:

    - alt.2600.madrid

    I'm going to criticize you.

    The hierarchy administrator may establish the nature of the newsgroups
    in the hierarchy, institutional or regional or international, language, etc.

    But alt.* is a long-established hierarchy. You aren't its administrator.
    We don't have one. But that doesn't make it "anything goes".

    News administrators run Usenet, not hierarchy administrator. Yes, you
    present Usenet -- a specific set of newsgroups -- according to your
    opinion, no one else's.

    Just because you can do this doesn't mean you should.

    Why would you create a newsgroup, named into alt.*, just for your News
    site and your peers? That's a hostile act toward the rest of the Usenet community. Other News administrators, especially those you don't peer
    with, don't want to create a group proprietary to you, a group without
    an archived newgroup message that's not in the generic active and
    newsgroups files at ftp.isc.org.

    Properly, a proposed group has a proponent who tells the Usenet community, I believe in this newsgroup. I've given it a proper name so people can
    find it, and its named into a proper subhiearchy with similar
    newsgroups. It's not redundant of another newsgroup.

    I've thought about what is to be discussed and I will describe it to the
    Usenet community.

    I've identified an audience for the newsgroup and I will work to promote
    the group till discussion is sustainable.

    Most important, I put my name on the proposal and I stand behind it with
    my personal reputation. I am known for discussing this topic on Usenet.

    You didn't do any of those things. The "madrid" component suggests
    regional, but regional newsgroups shouldn't be named into an
    international hierarchy like alt.*. The 2600 component suggests hacking.
    What does "madrid" have to do with "2600"?

    What language is spoken? Generally, alt.* groups are English language,
    except where they aren't. There are some subhierarchies suggesting that
    other languages are used.

    But we'll never know. You wrote no charter. There's no newgroup message.

    It's a lousy thing to do.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?=@iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid to news.admin.hierarchies on Thu Sep 5 23:14:32 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    Hi Adam,

    You didn't do any of those things. The "madrid" component suggests
    regional, but regional newsgroups shouldn't be named into an
    international hierarchy like alt.*. The 2600 component suggests hacking.

    About the 2600 component, I would also add that all-digit components
    should be avoided as, depending on the storage method used by a news
    server or client, they conflict with a possible article number 2600 in a parent newsgroup.

    With alt.2600.madrid, it should not matter much as "alt" does not exist
    as a newsgroup itself, but in case ReK2 sends a newgroup control article
    in alt.es.*, it would matter.
    alt.es is listed in the active list of ftp.isc.org and may have an
    article number 2600 stored in the /articles/alt/es/2600 file. In this configuration, alt.es.2600.madrid cannot be added because the path /articles/alt/es/2600/madrid cannot be created.

    I would therefore suggest the use of another name.
    --
    Julien |eLIE

    -2-aQuand on retire tout ce qu'on a dit, il reste tout ce qu'on n'a pas
    dit.-a-+ (Philippe Geluck)

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to news.admin.hierarchies on Thu Sep 5 21:31:44 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    Julien <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> wrote:

    Hi Adam,

    You didn't do any of those things. The "madrid" component suggests >>regional, but regional newsgroups shouldn't be named into an
    international hierarchy like alt.*. The 2600 component suggests hacking.

    About the 2600 component, I would also add that all-digit components
    should be avoided as, depending on the storage method used by a news
    server or client, they conflict with a possible article number 2600 in a >parent newsgroup.

    With alt.2600.madrid, it should not matter much as "alt" does not exist
    as a newsgroup itself, but in case ReK2 sends a newgroup control article
    in alt.es.*, it would matter.
    alt.es is listed in the active list of ftp.isc.org and may have an
    article number 2600 stored in the /articles/alt/es/2600 file. In this >configuration, alt.es.2600.madrid cannot be added because the path >/articles/alt/es/2600/madrid cannot be created.

    I would therefore suggest the use of another name.

    Thank you. i should have quoted from Russ Allbery's Readme about the
    potential for problems to be created by all-numeric components, but
    I got lazy.
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  • From Retro Guy@retroguy@novabbs.org to news.admin.hierarchies on Wed Nov 27 05:21:37 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:40 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:


    server:
    https://news.hispagatos.org

    Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
    or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
    please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.


    - hispagatos.hacking.ctf
    - hispagatos.hacking.exploits
    - hispagatos.hacking.news

    The ones we had for some time:

    - hispagaos.talk
    - hispagatos.test
    - hispagatos.comunicados
    - hispagatos.ayuda


    We also started last year and also active:

    - alt.2600.madrid

    Should this group 'hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hacking' be part of your checkgroups? I'm receiving articles for it, but don't carry it.

    Most likely it is there and I'm blind :)
    --
    Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org>
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From rek2 hispagatos@rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid to news.admin.hierarchies on Wed Nov 27 21:33:09 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    On 2024-11-27, Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:40 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:


    server:
    https://news.hispagatos.org

    Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
    or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
    please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.


    - hispagatos.hacking.ctf
    - hispagatos.hacking.exploits
    - hispagatos.hacking.news

    The ones we had for some time:

    - hispagaos.talk
    - hispagatos.test
    - hispagatos.comunicados
    - hispagatos.ayuda


    We also started last year and also active:

    - alt.2600.madrid

    Should this group 'hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hacking' be part of your checkgroups? I'm receiving articles for it, but don't carry it.

    Most likely it is there and I'm blind :)


    I do not think I did it for those, I added some newsgroups intended for
    local people that were asking me for them, they are mostly intended for
    people to keep up with mastodon tags or other type of hacking news etc
    from other places, so I did not send a checkgroup msg as i did for the
    others, I could if people in your servers will be interested in
    subscribing, let me know and I will submit them.


    Happy hacking
    ReK2
    --
    - {gemini,https}://{,rek2.}hispagatos.org - mastodon: @rek2@hispagatos.space
    - [https|gemini]://2600.Madrid - https://hispagatos.space/@rek2
    - https://keyoxide.org/A31C7CE19D9C58084EA42BA26C0B0D11E9303EC5
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  • From Retro Guy@retroguy@novabbs.org to news.admin.hierarchies on Wed Nov 27 16:32:21 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:33:09 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-11-27, Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:40 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:


    server:
    https://news.hispagatos.org

    Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
    or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
    please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.


    - hispagatos.hacking.ctf
    - hispagatos.hacking.exploits
    - hispagatos.hacking.news

    The ones we had for some time:

    - hispagaos.talk
    - hispagatos.test
    - hispagatos.comunicados
    - hispagatos.ayuda


    We also started last year and also active:

    - alt.2600.madrid

    Should this group 'hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hacking' be part of your checkgroups? I'm receiving articles for it, but don't carry it.

    Most likely it is there and I'm blind :)


    I do not think I did it for those, I added some newsgroups intended for
    local people that were asking me for them, they are mostly intended for people to keep up with mastodon tags or other type of hacking news etc
    from other places, so I did not send a checkgroup msg as i did for the others, I could if people in your servers will be interested in
    subscribing, let me know and I will submit them.

    Sounds good. I added them in case anyone wants to read or contribute.
    --
    Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org>
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From rek2 hispagatos@rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid to news.admin.hierarchies on Thu Nov 28 14:34:01 2024
    From Newsgroup: news.admin.hierarchies

    On 2024-11-27, Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:33:09 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-11-27, Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> wrote:
    On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:40 -0000 (UTC)
    rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:


    server:
    https://news.hispagatos.org

    Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
    or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
    please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.


    - hispagatos.hacking.ctf
    - hispagatos.hacking.exploits
    - hispagatos.hacking.news

    The ones we had for some time:

    - hispagaos.talk
    - hispagatos.test
    - hispagatos.comunicados
    - hispagatos.ayuda


    We also started last year and also active:

    - alt.2600.madrid

    Should this group 'hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hacking' be part of your checkgroups? I'm receiving articles for it, but don't carry it.

    Most likely it is there and I'm blind :)


    I do not think I did it for those, I added some newsgroups intended for
    local people that were asking me for them, they are mostly intended for
    people to keep up with mastodon tags or other type of hacking news etc
    from other places, so I did not send a checkgroup msg as i did for the
    others, I could if people in your servers will be interested in
    subscribing, let me know and I will submit them.

    Sounds good. I added them in case anyone wants to read or contribute.


    Awesome! thank you!
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