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On 2026-03-31, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

When you have people like Alan Baker, Jolly Roger, Your Name, Chris,
et al., saying, in effect, that Windows XP was fully supported for
over 18 years

And to prove it, you can't point to where I ever said that.
Because I never said it.

Hi Jolly Roger,

I read *everything* you post, as I love when you post because I consider
you the quintessential Apple iPhone owner so your opinion matters to me.

You'll notice I said "in essence" when I paraphrased what you claim:
"When you have people like Alan Baker, Jolly Roger, Your Name,
Chris, et al., saying, in effect, that Windows XP was fully supported
for over 18 years..."

All of those listed above have claimed that Apple simply fixing a random
bug means that the iOS operating system is fully supported to that date.

Yet another lie you can't back up.

Nobody said that.

Your word means nothing. Your lies are ultra-weak, matching your
intellect. You're a weak, old fool of a troll. Efnu
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Jolly Roger wrote:

Nobody said that.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS support.

Indeed, the only people on this newsgroup who have ever shown any
indication of how Apple fully supports releases is me (years ago),
and only recently (last week), -hh showed he understood it also.

After years of trying, to get even one person on this newsgroup to
understand a single thing about how Apple works, is an accomplishment!

Nobody else on this newsgroup has ever shown any indication they understand Apple's own documented process of full support, much to my chagrin.

Literally for years I've tried to educate the people on this newsgroup.
To no avail.

Apple's full support policy is clear:
a. Then instant the next major release ships
b. Apple completely drops full support from the prior release
Such that:
c. Unlike every other OS vendor, Apple fully supports only 1 major release

What most of you confuse for full support, is "support", which is
completely different in that even Microsoft supported an OS for 18 years
under the definition that the people on this newsgroup call full support.
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Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Nobody said that.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS support.

Indeed, the only people on this newsgroup who have ever shown any
indication of how Apple fully supports releases is me (years ago),
and only recently (last week), -hh showed he understood it also.

After years of trying, to get even one person on this newsgroup to
understand a single thing about how Apple works, is an accomplishment!

Nobody else on this newsgroup has ever shown any indication they understand Apple's own documented process of full support, much to my chagrin.

Literally for years I've tried to educate the people on this newsgroup.
To no avail.

Apple's full support policy is clear:
a. Then instant the next major release ships
b. Apple completely drops full support from the prior release
Such that:
c. Unlike every other OS vendor, Apple fully supports only 1 major release

What most of you confuse for full support, is "support", which is
completely different in that even Microsoft supported an OS for 18 years under the definition that the people on this newsgroup call full support.

Apple vs Microsoft vs Android rCo rCLfull supportrCY vs reality

The claim that Apple only supports one OS version is misleading. All three ecosystems split support into tiers (feature updates vs security updates),
they just communicate it differently.

APPLE (iOS/macOS)
rCo Latest version: full support (features + frequent fixes)
rCo Older versions: still get security updates, sometimes for years
rCo Typically 2rCo4 major versions receive patches at the same time
rCo Devices: ~5rCo7 years of major OS updates, longer for security fixes

MICROSOFT (Windows)
rCo Clear lifecycle labels:
rCo Mainstream support (features + fixes)
rCo Extended support (security only)
rCo Each Windows version is supported ~10 years total
rCo Windows 10/11 also use rolling feature updates with defined end dates

ANDROID (varies by vendor)
rCo Google Pixels:
rCo ~7 years OS + security (now industry-leading)
rCo Samsung:
rCo ~4 OS updates, ~5 years security
rCo Many others:
rCo Often shorter and inconsistent
rCo Updates depend on manufacturer + carrier

BOTTOM LINE
rCo Apple does NOT drop support when a new version ships.
rCo Apple supports multiple OS versions at once (security-wise).
rCo Microsoft is the most explicit about support phases.
rCo Android varies widely by device maker.
rCo The real difference is labeling, not the existence of multi-version
support.

TL;DR: Everyone supports old versions. rCLFull supportrCY = latest version everywhere. Security support continues beyond that on all major platforms.
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On 2026-04-02 11:04, Maria Sophia wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Nobody said that.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS support.

"Only I can solve it!"
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On 2026-04-02, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

All of those listed above have claimed that Apple simply fixing a
random bug means that the iOS operating system is fully supported to
that date.

Nobody said that.

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS
support.

Another ultra-weak lie. Efnu

That all you got, big guy?

Fucking pathetic.
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On 2026-04-02, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2026-04-02 11:04, Maria Sophia wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Nobody said that.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS support.

"Only I can solve it!"

Like Dear Leader, he is fully controlled by his own narcissism
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On 2026-04-02 13:02, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2026-04-02, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

All of those listed above have claimed that Apple simply fixing a
random bug means that the iOS operating system is fully supported to
that date.

Nobody said that.

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS
support.

Another ultra-weak lie. Efnu

That all you got, big guy?

Fucking pathetic.

Oh, in a sense he right!

Because he "knows" things are are objectively false.

:-)
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Jolly Roger wrote:

That all you got

Hi Jolly Roger,

Remember, I read everything you post because I consider you the
quintessential Apple owner, so it's important to me what you say.

What I told you was that I understood years ago how Apple did full OS
support (because I read Apple's own documentation at that time).

And you say "That's all you got?"
Seriously?

When I know more than the rest of you combined, how can you seriously claim "That's all you've got".

The answer is yes.
All I've got is what you do not have.

I understood years ago how Apple handles full support.
You do not.
Chris does not.
Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenze and Snit (Brock) do not.

Nobody on this newsgroup (other than -hh) has shown they understand.
So, um, er, yeah.

You're right for once.
Facts are all I've got.
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Jolly Roger wrote:

Like Dear Leader

Hi Jolly Roger,

I'm going to ignore the fact that you hate that Apple's full support is
what it is, because it's clear how upset you seem to be with Apple support.

Don't blame me because Apple's own documentation states that Apple only
fully supports one release at a time (whether for macOS or for iOS).

For years, you've been mislead by Apple into believing that a single bug is every bug ever known in a release, which is why you have repeatedly
claimed, in essence, that Windows XP was fully supported for over 18 years.

I get it that you hate that Apple mislead you about full support, JR.
But all you needed to do was read Apple's own documentation.

Instead of calling me names for reading Apple's documentation, you could
have read it yourself (and if you understood it, you'd be thanking me).

It's not my fault that Apple instantly drops full support on the current
major release the instant that the next major release ships, Jolly Roger.

Take it up with Tim Cook instead.
Call Tim Cook all those names, instead.

For I understand you Jolly Roger.
I understand how upset you are, Jolly Roger.

I understand that you hate that Apple is what Apple is.
Because that means Apple is not what you always thought Apple was.

I care about you Jolly Roger.
So I'm sorry that I had to tell you the truth about Apple.

I forgive you for lashing out at me simply for telling you the truth.
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On 2026-04-02, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

On 2026-04-02 13:02, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2026-04-02, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

All of those listed above have claimed that Apple simply fixing a
random bug means that the iOS operating system is fully supported
to that date.

Nobody said that.

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS
support.

Another ultra-weak lie. Efnu

Remember, I read everything you post

You outright lied about what I actually said, and are unable to show
where I said what you claim, because like your intellect your trolls are
the weakest trolls. You're a pathetic man child.
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Jolly Roger wrote:

Remember, I read everything you post

You outright lied about what I actually said, and are unable to show
where I said what you claim, because like your intellect your trolls are
the weakest trolls. You're a pathetic man child.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Not only do I have an excellent memory (all highly intelligent people do),
but you've claimed many times Apple support is full support, when it's not.

I can go back to the old Google Groups days where you claim it constantly.

I've tried to teach you Apple posters on this newsgroup for years, JR.
*How many years is the oldest iPhone & iPad fully supported by Apple today?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/3BlAYiG7lx0/>
That was September 18, 2023.

This was August 6, 2022.
*Why do Apple operating systems *just die* while all modern operating systems last, essentially, almost forever?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/T_-7sEITUKs/>

Even after *years* of providing facts that Apple summarily drops full
support for OS releases the instant the next release ships, only one other person on this newsgroup (-hh) has shown any understanding of that fact.

What this shows is it takes *years* to get even one person on this
newsgroup to understand what Apple actually documents that it does.

And yet, to this day, nobody but -hh shows any indication of understanding.

If you, or Chris or Alan or Snit has any inkling of how Apple drops full support of a release the instant the next release ships, just show it.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/T_-7sEITUKs/>
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On 2026-04-03, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2026-04-02, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

On 2026-04-02 13:02, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2026-04-02, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

All of those listed above have claimed that Apple simply fixing
a random bug means that the iOS operating system is fully
supported to that date.

Nobody said that.

Almost nobody on this newsgroup knows what I know about Apple OS
support.

Another ultra-weak lie. Efnu

Remember, I read everything you post

You outright lied about what I actually said, and are unable to show
where I said what you claim, because like your intellect your trolls
are the weakest trolls. You're a pathetic man child.

I can go back to the old Google Groups days where you claim it
constantly.

<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/3BlAYiG7lx0/> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/T_-7sEITUKs/> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/T_-7sEITUKs/>

And yet NONE of those links show me saying that Apple simply fixing a
random bug means that the iOS operating system is fully supported to
that date.

That's it? Three links to random discussions where I absolutely did not
say what you claim - two of which aren't even discussing the topic of
iOS updates... Seriously? That's the best you got? Efnu

Fucking weak as ever. You're a dumb-ass troll.
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