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I'm agnostic when it comes to Apple versus Android.
I only care about the truth.

I speak logically sensibly about all operating systems, not just iOS.

My ego isn't tied to a platform's marketing genius.
My ego is tied to gaining an adult understanding of the truth.

Given I don't defend any mothership to the death, no matter what, I took
Tom Elam up on his offer to get from the Android newsgroup the same kind of statistics we've been gathering for this iOS newsgroup on full OS support.
*What is the reality of the Samsung 7-years of S-series support?*

Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: What is the reality of the Samsung 7-years of S-series support?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2026 22:39:49 -0700
Message-ID: <10rhvj6$1c3i$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

It's complicated...

Q: What is the reality of the Samsung 7-years of S-series support?
A: ?

Everyone banters about this word "support" but it has distinct meanings
that I'm confused about when it comes to what Samsung's promise means.

Samsung's "7-years" is especially confusing (to me at least) because of
their policy to "slow down" updates on older phones, even as they are still under what appears to be "full support" and the typical policies of only
fully updating the latest Android version (& not earlier Android versions).

So what's Samsung's new S-series 7-years-of-support policy, really?

Q: How many levels of support does Samsung promise for new devices?
A: ?

Does Samsung's 7-year promise for the new S-series devices include...
a. All known bugfixes for all known bugs (in their control)
b. All known security vulnerabilities for all known security flaws
b. All known enhancements for all known modules (in their control)
c. Seven operating system updates (+ the original operating system)
d. Any and all those fixes on a regular (i.e., monthly?) schedule?
e. Or, does that schedule slow down over time but still promise all?
f. Are the security fixes SIMULTANEOUS on all 7 of those Android upgrades?
g. ? any others ?

With iOS, it's a lot easier to calculate because Apple has never in its
history ever simultaneously fully supported more than a single release.

All other OS vendors have simultaneously fully supported multiple releases.

As for the definition of "full support", we must make a point that fixing a random bug in any OS is not full support. Full support means something well documented by Apple but for other operating systems, it's not so easy.

But full support includes fixing every known bug that can be fixed.
An example of what is NOT full support is WinXP fixed bugs for 18 years.
1. Windows XP was released on October 25, 2001
2. The last known security update was released on May 14, 2019
3. That is 6,421 days, or 17.59 years of security updates after release

Also, we have to keep in mind that software support is not the same as
hardware support, where we calculated on the iOS newsgroup this summary:

The average iOS SOFTWARE support (this is per release only!)
a. Sum = 25.52 years (for completed versions)
b. Count = 16 versions (have completed)
c. Average = 26.14 / 18 = 1.59 years

As for the iOS HARDWARE full-security-updates (AFAIK)
a. Longest full iOS support: 6.99 years (iPhone XS / XS Max)
b. Shortest full iOS support: 2.37 years (iPhone 3G)
c. Average full iOS support: 5.10 years

Given all these varying definitions of "support"...

This question is asked so that we can, together, nail down what Samsung actually means when they claim "7 years of "support" for the S-series.
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On Apr 12, 2026 at 10:44:51rC>PM MST, "Maria Sophia" wrote <10rhvsj$e4d$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

I'm agnostic when it comes to Apple versus Android.
I only care about the truth.

Starting off with an obvious lie is not a good way to begin!

I speak logically sensibly about all operating systems, not just iOS.

My ego isn't tied to a platform's marketing genius.

Your ego is tied to putting iOS down, even if you do so with ignorance.

My ego is tied to gaining an adult understanding of the truth.

Another lie from you.

Given I don't defend any mothership to the death, no matter what,

You attack Apple products with lies for trolling fun.

...
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Maria Sophia wrote:

This question is asked so that we can, together, nail down what Samsung actually means when they claim "7 years of "support" for the S-series.

Given my 2021 free el-cheapo Samsung had 4 years of full support, I don't
think it at all difficult, nowadays, for Samsung to provide 7 years.

Galaxy Tab S10+
Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra <https://sammyguru.com/galaxy-tab-s10-and-s10-ultra-receive-updates-for-seven-years/>

Also these (see reference below).
Galaxy Tab S10 FE
Galaxy Tab S10 FE+

Note this article above covers all Galaxy phones, apparently, even mine:
*Here's every Samsung device eligible for 7 major Android updates*
<https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-1148888/>

But, apparently there's a catch in that it's quarterly, not monthly.
<https://www.phonearena.com/news/galaxy-tab-s10-updates_id163563>

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On 2026-04-25 07:31, Maria Sophia wrote:

Maria Sophia wrote:

This question is asked so that we can, together, nail down what Samsung
actually means when they claim "7 years of "support" for the S-series.

Given my 2021 free el-cheapo Samsung had 4 years of full support, I don't think it at all difficult, nowadays, for Samsung to provide 7 years.

But you THINKING it doesn't mean Samsung will DO it...

...now does it?

:-)

Galaxy Tab S10+
Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra <https://sammyguru.com/galaxy-tab-s10-and-s10-ultra-receive-updates-for-seven-years/>

Also these (see reference below).
Galaxy Tab S10 FE
Galaxy Tab S10 FE+

Note this article above covers all Galaxy phones, apparently, even mine:
*Here's every Samsung device eligible for 7 major Android updates*
<https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-1148888/>

But, apparently there's a catch in that it's quarterly, not monthly.
<https://www.phonearena.com/news/galaxy-tab-s10-updates_id163563>

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In article <10q6krt$jv7$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>,
Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Q: How long after release does Apple still provide "security updates"?
A: It's a *lot* shorter than you think...

Note that people "think" Apple supports releases far longer than facts show since these dates are the *longest* possible support lengths we can get.

The length of support of individual versions of iOS is meaningless.
What counts is how long is the iPhone/iPad supported. It is MUCH longer
than ANY Android vendor.

For example, the iPad Air 2 was released on October 16, 2014. On that
date it came with iOS 8.1. It has received 2 updates this year.
15.8.6 on 1/26/2026 and 15.8.7 on 3/11/2026. That is 11.5 years (and counting) of support and 7+ (and counting) versions of iOS.

Any more questions about Apple's legendary support?
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On 2026-05-05 10:22 p.m., Johnny LaRue wrote:

In article <10q6krt$jv7$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>,
Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Q: How long after release does Apple still provide "security updates"?
A: It's a *lot* shorter than you think...

Note that people "think" Apple supports releases far longer than facts show >> since these dates are the *longest* possible support lengths we can get.

The length of support of individual versions of iOS is meaningless.
What counts is how long is the iPhone/iPad supported. It is MUCH longer
than ANY Android vendor.

For example, the iPad Air 2 was released on October 16, 2014. On that
date it came with iOS 8.1. It has received 2 updates this year.
15.8.6 on 1/26/2026 and 15.8.7 on 3/11/2026. That is 11.5 years (and counting) of support and 7+ (and counting) versions of iOS.

Any more questions about Apple's legendary support?

+1. That is indeed very impressive.
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On 2026-05-06, Johnny LaRue <xxxxxx@yyyyyy.zzz> wrote:

In article <10q6krt$jv7$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>,
Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

Q: How long after release does Apple still provide "security updates"?
A: It's a *lot* shorter than you think...

Note that people "think" Apple supports releases far longer than facts show >> since these dates are the *longest* possible support lengths we can get.

The length of support of individual versions of iOS is meaningless.
What counts is how long is the iPhone/iPad supported. It is MUCH longer than ANY Android vendor.

For example, the iPad Air 2 was released on October 16, 2014. On that
date it came with iOS 8.1. It has received 2 updates this year.
15.8.6 on 1/26/2026 and 15.8.7 on 3/11/2026. That is 11.5 years (and counting) of support and 7+ (and counting) versions of iOS.

Any more questions about Apple's legendary support?

His trolls are so fucking weak it's pathetic.
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