• Collatz Conjectur proved.

    From wij@wyniijj5@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++ on Wed Dec 24 20:03:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c++

    goolge translate is terrible recently, its output is different everytime!
    I am not sure the idea will be conveyed properly, esp. for those not familiar
    with the Collatz Conjecture. If not, its my failure.
    While looking back, the proof of Collatz Conjecture is unbelievably simple.
    I think it is because: According to the ChurchrCoTuring conjecture (and my own
    conjecture): No formal language has greater expressive power than procedural
    language, particular C/C++ (just imagine that if this proof was made in
    traditional formalism).
    But the development of C is, IMO, 'average'. C++ 'may be' still superstitous
    in their 'expressive' and 'useful'....
    This file is intended a proof of Collatz Conjecture. The contents may be updated anytime. https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-en.txt/download
    The text is converted by google translate with modest modification from https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-zh.txt/download
    Reader might want to try different translator or different settings. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collatz function ::=
    int cop(int n) {
    if(n<=1) {
    return 1; // 1 is the iteration endpoint
    }
    if(n%2) {
    return 3*n+1; // Odd number rule
    } else {
    return n/2; // Even number rule
    }
    }
    Collatz number(n): If an integer n, n>=1, the cop iteration operation will
    eventually calculate to 1 (i.e., cop(...cop(n))=1), then n is a Collatz
    number.
    Collatz Conjecture: For all integer n, n>=1, n is a Collatz number.
    The cop operation can be managed to an ibp function is a combination of
    (3n+1)/2 and n/2 operations. Each ibp operation is processed according to
    the least significant bit (LSB) of n. 0 corresponds to the n/2 operation
    and 1 corresponds to the two cop operations (3n+1)/2.
    int ibp(int n) {
    if(n<=1) {
    return n; // 1 does not iterate
    }
    if(n%2) {
    n= (3*n+1)/2; // Odd and even cop operations are considered as one
    // ibp iteration
    } else {
    n/=2;
    }
    return n;
    };
    Let the bit sequence of n be abc. The ibp iteration result can be roughly
    shown in the following figure ((3x+1)/2= x+riex/2rii+1):
    abc
    1+ abc // x3+1 operation
    1+ abc // If there is an even operation (i.e. n/2), delete a line
    1+ abc
    ABCXX // The state after ibp iteration: A,B,C represent the sum of
    // bits related to a,b,c and carry. X represents carrys not
    // directly related to a,b,c.
    Let n=JK, J,K represent two consecutive base-2 numbers. Let |K|
    represent the number of bits of the binary number of K, then after n goes
    through |K| times of ibp operation process, the remaining J will be changed
    to J' due to odd/even operations and carrys. However, the maximum value of
    J' is approximately J*(3/2)^|K|. The maximum length of J' is approximately
    log(J*(3/2)^|K|)= log(J)+ 0.4*|K|.
    Prop: For any integer n, n>1, the iteration of the cop function of n will always
    result in a number equal to 1.
    Proof: Assume that all numbers with the bit length less than or equal to |n|
    are Collatz numbers. Let the binary representation of n be 1ddd. 2n, 2n+1
    be 1ddd# (# represents 0 or 1). Let the binary form of K be ddd#, J=1
    (the most significant bit).
    Assum J becomes J' after |K| ibp operations, |J'|= |J|+ 0.4*|K| =
    1+ 0.4*|K|.
    By assumption, if |J'|ren |K|, then J' will be a Collatz number because
    when |K|>=2, J' is also a Collatz number.
    1+0.4*|K|ren |K|
    <=> 1 <= |K|- 0.4*|K|
    <=> 1 <= 0.6*|K|
    <=> 1/0.6 ren |K|
    Thus, the cop iteration for integers 2n and 2n+1 will calculate to 1.
    That is, all integers greater than 4 are Collatz numbers (since 1, 2,
    and 3 are known to be Collatz numbers). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From wij@wyniijj5@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++ on Sun Jan 25 00:46:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c++

    On Wed, 2025-12-24 at 20:03 +0800, wij wrote:
    I have just finished the script. Any defect,insufficiency, or typo? ------------------
    This file is intended a proof of Collatz Conjecture. The contents may be updated anytime. https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-en.txt/download
    The text is converted by google translate with modest modification from https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-zh.txt/download
    Reader might want to try different translator or different settings. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collatz function ::=
    int cop(int n) {
    if(n<=1) {
    if(n<1) {
    throw Error;
    }
    return 1; // 1 is the iteration endpoint
    }
    if(n%2) {
    return 3*n+1; // Odd number rule
    } else {
    return n/2; // Even number rule
    }
    }

    Collatz number: If an integer n, nreeN<1,+1>, after the cop iteration will
    eventually calculate to 1 (i.e., cop(...cop(n))=1), then n is a Collatz
    number. Otherwise n is not a Collatz number.

    Collatz Problem: For each integer n, nreeN<1,+1>, is n a Collatz number? IOW,
    the question is equivalent to asking whether the following procedure rcop
    terminates or not.

    void rcop(int n) {
    for(;n!=1;) {
    n=cop(n);
    }
    }

    Prop: cop(n) iteration contains no cycle (except for the '1-4-2-1' cycle, since
    1 is the termination condition).
    Proof: n can be decomposed into n= a+b. rcop(n) can be rewritten as rcop2(n):

    void rcop2(int n) {
    int a=n,b=0;
    for(;a+b!=1;) { // a+b= n in the cop iterative process.
    if((a%2)!=0) {
    --a; ++b; // Adjust a and b so that a remains even and the
    // following algorithm can be performed and remains
    // equivalent to cop(n) iteration.
    }
    if((b%2)!=0) { // Equivalent to (a+b)%2 (because a is even).
    a= 3*a;
    b= 3*b+1; // 3*(a+b)+1= (3*a) +(3*b+1)
    } else {
    a= a/2;
    b= b/2;
    }
    }
    }
    Let nb|o, ab|o, bb|o represent the values n,a, and b in the iteration.
    Assume that the cop(n) iteration is cyclic. The cycle is a fixed-length
    sequence, and the process must contain the operations 3x+1 and x/2 (and
    the associated operations --a and ++b, unless n is a 2^x number, but such
    numbers do not cycle). Let the cyclic sequence of n be:
    nreU, nree, nrea, ..., nreo (n=nreU).
    Because --a and ++b are continuously interpolated during the cycle, if
    ab|orea0, then bb|o and nb|o=ab|o+bb|o will increase infinitely, contradicting the
    assumption that nb|o is cyclic. Therefore, ab|o=0 must hold during the cycle,
    but the condition of ab|o=0 only exists in 1-4-2-1, ab|o=0 cannot cause the
    non-1-4-2-1 cycle of nreU,nree,nrea,...,nreo.
    Therefore, we can conclude that cop(n) iterations are non-cyclic.
    Prop: For any nreeN<1,+1>, the cop iteration operation terminates.
    Proof: Since an odd number n will always become even immediately after the
    cop iteration, it must undergo n/2 iterations. Therefore, we have an
    equivalent rcop3:
    void rcop3(int n) {
    int a=n,b=0;
    for(; a+b!=1;) {
    if((a%2)!=0) {
    --a; ++b;
    }
    // a/b measure point A
    if((b%2)!=0) {
    a= 3*a;
    b= 3*b+1;
    }
    a= a/2;
    b= b/2;
    }
    }
    Let n be odd and there be no `--a`, `++b` process. Assume that each odd
    operation is paired with only one even operation (the actual ratio is 1.5
    even operations, but 1.5 is a statistical value; the decisive inference
    can only take the guaranteed value of 1). Then, at measurement point A,
    we have:
    areU = n-1
    areo = (3*areoreireU)/2 = ... = (n-1)*(3/2)-urU+-|
    breU = 1
    breo = (3*breoreireU+1)/2 = ... = 2*(3/2)-urU+-| -1
    areo/breo = (areoreireU)/(breoreireU) = ((n-1)*(3/2)-urU+-|)/(2*(3/2)-urU+-| -1)
    = ... = (n-1)/(2-1/(3/2)-urU+-|)
    Interim summary: areo/breo < areoreireU/breoreireU and lim{x->reR} areo/breo = (n-1)/2.
    (After eight iterations, areo/breo is approximately 0.51. Actual iterations
    may also include --a and ++b operations, so the actual value of areo/breo
    will converge faster than the formula)
    Let r = a/b, then n/b = (a+b)/b = a/b+1 = r+1
    => b = (a+b)/(r+1)
    Assuming the cop(n) iteration does not terminate, and m is one of the
    number in the iteration sequence. Therefore, we can derive the
    following:
    => b = m/(r+1)
    => The limit of r+1 = (m-1)/2 + 1 = (m+1)/2
    => b = (2*m)/(m+1) = 2/(1+1/m)
    => b = 2 (the limit of b. At least it is known that m will be a large
    number)
    Since there is a limit (the numerical value is not important), the
    iteration involves an infinite number of iterations of --a, a will
    inevitably become zero, so the iteration cannot fail to meet the
    iteration termination contion.
    If n is even, then repeating the even operation (a finite number of times)
    cop(n) will yield an odd number without affecting the termination result
    as stated above. Therefore, the proposition is proved.
    [Reference] Real number and infinity. Recurring decimals are irrational numbers.
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber2-en.txt/download
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  • From wij@wyniijj5@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++ on Fri Feb 6 14:19:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c++

    The proof is revised (bug fixed), even shorter (109 lines)!
    ----------
    This file is intended a proof of Collatz Conjecture. The contents may be updated anytime. https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-en.txt/download
    The text is converted by google translate with modest modification from https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-zh.txt/download
    Reader might want to try different translator or different settings. +---------+
    | Preface |
    +---------+
    3x+1 problem: For any integer n greater than or equal to 1, if n is odd,
    multiply by 3 and add 1. If n is even, divide by 2.
    The question is, will all numbers be calculated to 1 using this method? The
    following proof states that the answer is yes, they will always be calculated
    to 1. Proving this problem using Peano's axioms like axiomatic system is
    difficult (or would be very lengthy), so an algorithm (Turing machine model)
    is used for proof. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collatz function ::=
    int cop(int n) {
    if(n<=1) {
    if(n<1) {
    throw Error;
    }
    return 1; // 1 is the iteration endpoint
    }
    if(n%2) {
    return 3*n+1; // Odd number rule
    } else {
    return n/2; // Even number rule
    }
    }
    Collatz number: If an integer n, nreeN<1,+1>, after the cop iteration will
    eventually calculate to 1 (i.e., cop(...cop(n))=1), then n is a Collatz
    number. Otherwise n is not a Collatz number.
    Collatz Problem: For each integer n, nreeN<1,+1>, is n a Collatz number? IOW,
    the question is equivalent to asking whether the following procedure rcop
    terminates or not.
    void rcop(int n) {
    for(;n!=1;) {
    n=cop(n);
    }
    }
    Prop: For any nreeN<1,+1>, the cop iteration operation terminates.
    Proof: Let procedure rcop2 decomposes the n in rcop into n= a+b form.
    void rcop2(int n) {
    int a=n, b=0;
    for(;a+b!=1;) { // a+b measure point A (a+b is equivalent to n in the
    // cop iteration process)
    if((a%2) != 0) {
    --a; ++b; // a,b are adjusted so that a remains even, so that the
    // following algorithm can be performed and remains
    // equivalent to the cop(n) iteration.
    }
    // a/b measures point B
    if((b%2)!=0) { // Equivalent to (a+b)%2 (because a is even)
    a= 3*a;
    b= 3*b+1; // 3*(a+b)+1 =(3*a) +(3*b+1)
    }
    a= a/2; // (a+b)/2 will be executed in each iteration
    b= b/2;
    }
    }
    Let n be odd and there be no --a, ++b process. Assume that each odd
    operation is paired with an even operation. Then, at measurement point B,
    we have:
    areU= n-1
    areo= (3*areoreireU)/2 =... = (n-1)*(3/2)-urU+-|
    breU= 1
    breo= (3*breoreireU+1)/2=... = 2*(3/2)-urU+-| -1
    areo/breo= (areoreireU)/(breoreireU) = ((n-1)*(3/2)-urU+-|)/(2*(3/2)-urU+-| -1)
    =... = (n-1)/(2- 1/(3/2)-urU+-|)
    Interim summary: areo/breo < areoreireU/breoreireU, and lim{x->reR} areo/breo = (n-1)/2.
    Because "approximately half the limit value (n-1)/2" (not including the
    actual iterations which involve --a and ++b operations making areo smaller
    and breo larger) is recursively true, we can deduce that:
    (1) The actual value of areo/breo will decrease to the final value 0, and
    a=0, eventually.
    (2) The number of times breo is odd is less than the number of times breo is
    even (there are two, or more, consecutive even operations).
    Let r= a/b, areo=0. The value areoreireU, before iterating to 0, is 1 (measurement
    point A). At this point, rreoreireU is a small value, relative to the initial
    value rreU (the value of areo/breo can be considered as decreasing continuously
    by (n-1)/2). When n>=5, breoreireU (=areoreireU*rreoreireU =rreoreireU) is guaranteed to be less
    than n-1. Therefore, nreoreireU= areoreireU+breoreireU < 1+(n-1) <=> nreoreireU<n.
    From nreoreireU<n, we can prove by mathematical induction that the proposition
    "the iterative operation of cop(n) terminates" holds true.
    +------------+
    | References |
    +------------+
    [1] Real number contains infinity. Recurring decimals are irrational numbers.
    Peano-Axioms system can hardly prove reRreerao.
    https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber2-en.txt/download
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  • From Bonita Montero@Bonita.Montero@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++ on Fri Feb 6 14:22:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c++

    The proof the mathematicians are looking for isn't a proof for certain
    numbers but *one* proof for all numbers. So far no one has found this
    proof.

    Am 24.12.2025 um 13:03 schrieb wij:
    goolge translate is terrible recently, its output is different everytime!
    I am not sure the idea will be conveyed properly, esp. for those not familiar
    with the Collatz Conjecture. If not, its my failure.

    While looking back, the proof of Collatz Conjecture is unbelievably simple.
    I think it is because: According to the ChurchrCoTuring conjecture (and my own
    conjecture): No formal language has greater expressive power than procedural
    language, particular C/C++ (just imagine that if this proof was made in
    traditional formalism).
    But the development of C is, IMO, 'average'. C++ 'may be' still superstitous
    in their 'expressive' and 'useful'....


    This file is intended a proof of Collatz Conjecture. The contents may be updated anytime. https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-en.txt/download

    The text is converted by google translate with modest modification from https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/Coll-proof-zh.txt/download
    Reader might want to try different translator or different settings.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collatz function ::=

    int cop(int n) {
    if(n<=1) {
    return 1; // 1 is the iteration endpoint
    }
    if(n%2) {
    return 3*n+1; // Odd number rule
    } else {
    return n/2; // Even number rule
    }
    }

    Collatz number(n): If an integer n, n>=1, the cop iteration operation will
    eventually calculate to 1 (i.e., cop(...cop(n))=1), then n is a Collatz
    number.

    Collatz Conjecture: For all integer n, n>=1, n is a Collatz number.

    The cop operation can be managed to an ibp function is a combination of
    (3n+1)/2 and n/2 operations. Each ibp operation is processed according to
    the least significant bit (LSB) of n. 0 corresponds to the n/2 operation
    and 1 corresponds to the two cop operations (3n+1)/2.

    int ibp(int n) {
    if(n<=1) {
    return n; // 1 does not iterate
    }
    if(n%2) {
    n= (3*n+1)/2; // Odd and even cop operations are considered as one
    // ibp iteration
    } else {
    n/=2;
    }
    return n;
    };

    Let the bit sequence of n be abc. The ibp iteration result can be roughly
    shown in the following figure ((3x+1)/2= x+riex/2rii+1):

    abc
    1+ abc // x3+1 operation
    1+ abc // If there is an even operation (i.e. n/2), delete a line
    1+ abc
    ABCXX // The state after ibp iteration: A,B,C represent the sum of
    // bits related to a,b,c and carry. X represents carrys not
    // directly related to a,b,c.

    Let n=JK, J,K represent two consecutive base-2 numbers. Let |K|
    represent the number of bits of the binary number of K, then after n goes
    through |K| times of ibp operation process, the remaining J will be changed
    to J' due to odd/even operations and carrys. However, the maximum value of
    J' is approximately J*(3/2)^|K|. The maximum length of J' is approximately
    log(J*(3/2)^|K|)= log(J)+ 0.4*|K|.

    Prop: For any integer n, n>1, the iteration of the cop function of n will always
    result in a number equal to 1.

    Proof: Assume that all numbers with the bit length less than or equal to |n|
    are Collatz numbers. Let the binary representation of n be 1ddd. 2n, 2n+1
    be 1ddd# (# represents 0 or 1). Let the binary form of K be ddd#, J=1
    (the most significant bit).

    Assum J becomes J' after |K| ibp operations, |J'|= |J|+ 0.4*|K| =
    1+ 0.4*|K|.
    By assumption, if |J'|ren |K|, then J' will be a Collatz number because
    when |K|>=2, J' is also a Collatz number.

    1+0.4*|K|ren |K|
    <=> 1 <= |K|- 0.4*|K|
    <=> 1 <= 0.6*|K|
    <=> 1/0.6 ren |K|

    Thus, the cop iteration for integers 2n and 2n+1 will calculate to 1.
    That is, all integers greater than 4 are Collatz numbers (since 1, 2,
    and 3 are known to be Collatz numbers). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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  • From red floyd@no.spam.here@its.invalid to comp.lang.c++ on Fri Feb 6 15:29:41 2026
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    On 2/5/2026 10:19 PM, wij wrote:
    [redacted]

    So submit your paper to a peer reviewed publication, and collect your
    Fields Medal. Stop bothering us here.
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