• OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43

    From kalevi@kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) to comp.unix.programmer on Tue Apr 14 19:55:26 2026
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    Hello!

    Sorry for the off-topic, but I have to let others
    know...

    I have been running Firefox as my browser, always.
    Today I finally got tired of it being painfully
    slow on some sites that I regularly visit.

    I tried Chromium and it is so much faster!

    Here are the versions that I used

    ~ $ rpm -qi firefox
    Name : firefox
    Version : 149.0
    Release : 4.fc43
    Architecture: x86_64

    Name : chromium
    Version : 146.0.7680.177
    Release : 1.fc43
    Architecture: x86_64

    br,
    KK
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.unix.programmer on Tue Apr 14 20:10:56 2026
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    On Tue, 4/14/2026 3:55 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Hello!

    Sorry for the off-topic, but I have to let others
    know...

    I have been running Firefox as my browser, always.
    Today I finally got tired of it being painfully
    slow on some sites that I regularly visit.

    I tried Chromium and it is so much faster!

    Here are the versions that I used

    ~ $ rpm -qi firefox
    Name : firefox
    Version : 149.0
    Release : 4.fc43
    Architecture: x86_64

    Name : chromium
    Version : 146.0.7680.177
    Release : 1.fc43
    Architecture: x86_64

    br,
    KK


    https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/work-life/i-speed-tested-11-browsers-and-the-fastest-might-surprise-you/

    "Start times [lower is better]

    Chromium: 1.95 seconds \
    Firefox: 1.93 seconds \___ Tests like this need a *lot* of attention to details
    Chrome: 0.70 seconds / Clean OS, reboot before test run, and so on.

    Speedometer 3.0 results [higher is better]

    Firefox: 25.0
    Chromium: 30.7
    Chrome: 31.5
    "

    "The margins between the winners and losers here are fairly small. <===
    The only reason you might switch to the fastest all-around browser (Chrome)
    is if you regularly visit websites that demand speed in ways that require
    switching browsers. Or maybe you're a power user who simply wants to ensure
    you're using the absolute fastest browser on the market. In that case,
    the choice is easyrCa Chrome. "

    And that tells you, there is likely some configuration problem which could
    be improved upon. Just an auto-proxy versus no-proxy setting could
    do it. Go through the Preferences and make sure they're set the best
    way possible. Then the difference between them will be smaller.

    The cache on browsers, can be set to disk or set to memory. See
    if both browsers are configured the same way. I like memory caching,
    just to reduce wear on the SSD. If your cache2 has never been cleaned
    and you set the cache size too large inadvertently, that can cause
    a big problem. My brother phoned me once about browser speed, and
    we decided the root cause was the humongous cache setting he was using.
    There might have been something like 300,000 files in the cache at the time, cached to a hard drive.

    Paul
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.unix.programmer on Wed Apr 15 03:34:13 2026
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    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 20:10:56 -0400, Paul wrote:

    My brother phoned me once about browser speed, and we decided the
    root cause was the humongous cache setting he was using. There might
    have been something like 300,000 files in the cache at the time,
    cached to a hard drive.

    Caches are supposed to speed things up, not slow them down.
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.unix.programmer on Wed Apr 15 08:15:27 2026
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    On 2026-04-15, Paul wrote:

    On Tue, 4/14/2026 3:55 PM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Hello!

    Sorry for the off-topic, but I have to let others
    know...

    I have been running Firefox as my browser, always.
    Today I finally got tired of it being painfully
    slow on some sites that I regularly visit.

    I tried Chromium and it is so much faster!

    Here are the versions that I used

    ~ $ rpm -qi firefox
    Name : firefox
    Version : 149.0
    Release : 4.fc43
    Architecture: x86_64

    Name : chromium
    Version : 146.0.7680.177
    Release : 1.fc43
    Architecture: x86_64

    br,
    KK


    https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/work-life/i-speed-tested-11-browsers-and-the-fastest-might-surprise-you/

    [ After writing the reply below I opened the article, and it is by Jack
    Wallen, a byname that has previously written not-so-great articles on
    ZDnet and who also engages in content recycling. ]

    see e.g. (from comp.os.linux.misc)
    Message-ID: <10eglkf$nnrr$1@dont-email.me>
    Message-ID: <10k9aif$btvl$2@dont-email.me>
    Message-ID: <vshpm2$6sd5$2@dont-email.me>
    Message-ID: <107j83e$5993$3@dont-email.me>


    It's possible the article is actually good, but I hope my suspicions
    here are understandable...

    "Start times [lower is better]

    Chromium: 1.95 seconds \
    Firefox: 1.93 seconds \___ Tests like this need a *lot* of attention to details
    Chrome: 0.70 seconds / Clean OS, reboot before test run, and so on.

    And start times arguably don't matter much, as far as they're in an
    acceptable ballpark. Also, could this difference be e.g. the result of
    the approaches used in compilation and linking?

    Speedometer 3.0 results [higher is better]

    Firefox: 25.0
    Chromium: 30.7
    Chrome: 31.5
    "

    "The margins between the winners and losers here are fairly
    small. <===

    I'm more concerned about the difference between Chromium and Chrome. Is
    it really significant, or is this highlighting the marging of error?

    The only reason you might switch to the fastest all-around
    browser (Chrome)

    (Hey, I take offense to "fastest all-around browser", surely lynx and
    elinks might be much faster, especially if ignoring CSS and so on!)

    is if you regularly visit websites that demand speed in ways that require
    switching browsers. Or maybe you're a power user who simply wants to ensure
    you're using the absolute fastest browser on the market. In that case,
    the choice is easyrCa Chrome. "

    And that tells you, there is likely some configuration problem which could
    be improved upon. Just an auto-proxy versus no-proxy setting could
    do it. Go through the Preferences and make sure they're set the best
    way possible. Then the difference between them will be smaller.

    The cache on browsers, can be set to disk or set to memory. See
    if both browsers are configured the same way. I like memory caching,
    just to reduce wear on the SSD. If your cache2 has never been cleaned
    and you set the cache size too large inadvertently, that can cause
    a big problem. My brother phoned me once about browser speed, and
    we decided the root cause was the humongous cache setting he was using.
    There might have been something like 300,000 files in the cache at the time, cached to a hard drive.

    At one point several years ago, I disabled on-disk cache. The problem
    was that, besides its usefulness being questionable for most of my
    browsing, it IIRC caused a problem where Firefox (at least I think when
    this happened I was on Firefox) would become painfully slow after
    resuming from hibernation, because of the on-disk cache.
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From kalevi@kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) to comp.unix.programmer on Wed Apr 15 15:08:21 2026
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    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    And that tells you, there is likely some configuration problem which could
    be improved upon. Just an auto-proxy versus no-proxy setting could
    do it. Go through the Preferences and make sure they're set the best
    way possible. Then the difference between them will be smaller.

    Using the newest Firefox on Fedora 43, the site I use is sluggish
    as hell. When I type text, it takes 10-20 seconds for the first
    letters to appear. Using Chromium, everything is almpost
    instantaneous.

    The difference is just staggering. Never going back to FF anymore.

    br,
    KK
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.unix.programmer on Tue Apr 21 20:41:41 2026
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    On 14.04.2026 19:55 Uhr Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

    Sorry for the off-topic, but I have to let others
    know...

    Is there any issue posting in comp.os.linux.misc?
    --
    kind regards
    Marco

    Send spam to 1776189326muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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  • From kalevi@kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) to comp.unix.programmer on Tue Apr 21 18:52:32 2026
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    Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 14.04.2026 19:55 Uhr Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:

    Sorry for the off-topic, but I have to let others
    know...

    Is there any issue posting in comp.os.linux.misc?

    I do not think so, but I was unaware of that group.

    br,
    KK
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