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    From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.theory,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sat Sep 19 14:35:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    v1.1 released, notable improvements:

    to appease the superfluous nitpicking:
    - -o1 title -> the halting problem paradox
    - -o1 line "The halting problem can then be constructed as such"
    -> "The undecidability paradox for the halting problem can then
    be constructed as such"

    pseudo-code:
    - all looping consolidated into a loop keyword
    see doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22548963 for more info

    -o6.1-2 overhaul:
    removed the hanging conjecture and replaced it with further explanation showing that a full enumeration of computable sequences constructed by
    output sequences decidable by parital recognizer Dp, and any associated anti-sequences to those sequences, cannot then be utilized to compute a
    true total diagonal across all computable sequence, either the anti or
    direct diagonal! the second fallacy is turing's paper is now fully demonstrated as a fallacy

    -o7.7 now concludes by proposing a computing more fundamental than that
    of turing machines, as justified by the thot experiment explained
    throughout the entirety of -o7

    links still the same:
    doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22715823
    academia.edu/175392427
    --
    arising us out of the computing dark ages,
    please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,
    ~ the lil crank that could

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to comp.theory,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sat Sep 19 15:23:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/19/2026 2:35 PM, dart200 wrote:
    v1.1 released, notable improvements:

    to appease the superfluous nitpicking:
    - -o1 title -> the halting problem paradox
    - -o1 line "The halting problem can then be constructed as such"
    -a -> "The undecidability paradox for the halting problem can then
    -a-a-a-a-a be constructed as such"

    pseudo-code:
    - all looping consolidated into a loop keyword
    -a see doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22548963 for more info

    -o6.1-2 overhaul:
    removed the hanging conjecture and replaced it with further explanation showing that a full enumeration of computable sequences constructed by output sequences decidable by parital recognizer Dp, and any associated anti-sequences to those sequences, cannot then be utilized to compute a
    true total diagonal across all computable sequence, either the anti or direct diagonal! the second fallacy is turing's paper is now fully demonstrated as a fallacy

    -o7.7 now concludes by proposing a computing more fundamental than that
    of turing machines, as justified by the thot experiment explained
    throughout the entirety of -o7

    links still the same:
    doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22715823
    academia.edu/175392427

    This is a notable improvement. Good work!
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic,comp.theory on Sat Sep 19 15:26:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/19/26 2:53 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 14:35:57 -0700, dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    v1.1 released, notable improvements:

    to appease the superfluous nitpicking:
    - -o1 title -> the halting problem paradox
    - -o1 line "The halting problem can then be constructed as such"
    -> "The undecidability paradox for the halting problem can then
    be constructed as such"

    pseudo-code:
    - all looping consolidated into a loop keyword
    see doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22548963 for more info

    -o6.1-2 overhaul:
    removed the hanging conjecture and replaced it with further explanation
    showing that a full enumeration of computable sequences constructed by
    output sequences decidable by parital recognizer Dp, and any associated
    anti-sequences to those sequences, cannot then be utilized to compute a
    true total diagonal across all computable sequence, either the anti or
    direct diagonal! the second fallacy is turing's paper is now fully
    demonstrated as a fallacy

    -o7.7 now concludes by proposing a computing more fundamental than that
    of turing machines, as justified by the thot experiment explained
    throughout the entirety of -o7

    So, in effect, you admit that the problem is not solvable for turing
    machines

    it's far more profound than that

    i've clarified that despite the fact we're not able to build a
    classifier for any given input machine, there still exists a set of
    machines that is effectively turing-complete (includes all possible
    output sequences), that is entirely decidable by a classifier that
    exists within that set.

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is not
    nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon,
    neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental computing,
    nor from just within turing machine computing itself


    links still the same:
    doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22715823
    academia.edu/175392427
    --
    arising us out of the computing dark ages,
    please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,
    ~ the lil crank that could
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.theory,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Sun Sep 20 00:13:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/19/26 3:23 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 9/19/2026 2:35 PM, dart200 wrote:
    v1.1 released, notable improvements:

    to appease the superfluous nitpicking:
    - -o1 title -> the halting problem paradox
    - -o1 line "The halting problem can then be constructed as such"
    -a-a -> "The undecidability paradox for the halting problem can then
    -a-a-a-a-a-a be constructed as such"

    pseudo-code:
    - all looping consolidated into a loop keyword
    -a-a see doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22548963 for more info

    -o6.1-2 overhaul:
    removed the hanging conjecture and replaced it with further
    explanation showing that a full enumeration of computable sequences
    constructed by output sequences decidable by parital recognizer Dp,
    and any associated anti-sequences to those sequences, cannot then be
    utilized to compute a true total diagonal across all computable
    sequence, either the anti or direct diagonal! the second fallacy is
    turing's paper is now fully demonstrated as a fallacy

    -o7.7 now concludes by proposing a computing more fundamental than that
    of turing machines, as justified by the thot experiment explained
    throughout the entirety of -o7

    links still the same:
    doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22715823
    academia.edu/175392427

    This is a notable improvement. Good work!

    turing would be excited for sure,

    and you still have no fking clue what ur talking about dud
    --
    why are we god?
    let's end war EfOa

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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic,comp.theory on Sun Sep 20 12:38:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is not
    nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon,
    neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental computing,
    nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be
    easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for Turing machines.
    --
    Mikko
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.theory on Sun Sep 20 08:50:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/20/26 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is not
    nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon,
    neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental computing,
    nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be
    easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for Turing machines.


    correct,

    but this paper is how a halting algo can exist, it's not presenting a
    halting algo in of itself
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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to comp.theory on Mon Sep 21 10:26:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 20/09/2026 18:50, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is not
    nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon,
    neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental computing,
    nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be
    easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for Turing
    machines.

    correct,

    but this paper is how a halting algo can exist, it's not presenting a halting algo in of itself

    That the nonexstence of super-Turing algorthms is not proven is already
    known. It is also unknown whether the behaviour of the Universe is
    Turing computable. If it is then there can't be any super-Turing
    computations.
    --
    Mikko
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.theory,alt.messianic,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Sep 21 10:22:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/21/26 12:26 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 18:50, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is
    not nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon,
    neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental
    computing, nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be
    easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for Turing
    machines.

    correct,

    but this paper is how a halting algo can exist, it's not presenting a
    halting algo in of itself

    That the nonexstence of super-Turing algorthms is not proven is already known. It is also unknown whether the behaviour of the Universe is
    Turing computable. If it is then there can't be any super-Turing computations.


    u can't argue against my paper unless u actually fking read it dud
    --
    arising us out of the computing dark ages,
    please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,
    ~ the lil crank that could
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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to comp.theory,alt.messianic,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Sep 22 11:42:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 21/09/2026 20:22, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/21/26 12:26 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 18:50, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is
    not nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon,
    neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental
    computing, nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be
    easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for Turing >>>> machines.

    correct,

    but this paper is how a halting algo can exist, it's not presenting a
    halting algo in of itself

    That the nonexstence of super-Turing algorthms is not proven is already
    known. It is also unknown whether the behaviour of the Universe is
    Turing computable. If it is then there can't be any super-Turing
    computations.

    u can't argue against my paper unless u actually fking read it dud

    It seems that you can't argue for your paper even if you read it.
    --
    Mikko
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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.theory,alt.messianic,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Sep 22 02:03:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/22/26 1:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 21/09/2026 20:22, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/21/26 12:26 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 18:50, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is >>>>>> not nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon, >>>>>> neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental
    computing, nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be >>>>> easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for Turing >>>>> machines.

    correct,

    but this paper is how a halting algo can exist, it's not presenting
    a halting algo in of itself

    That the nonexstence of super-Turing algorthms is not proven is already
    known. It is also unknown whether the behaviour of the Universe is
    Turing computable. If it is then there can't be any super-Turing
    computations.

    u can't argue against my paper unless u actually fking read it dud

    It seems that you can't argue for your paper even if you read it.


    it seems that u don't want to engage genuinely so Efuo dud
    --
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to comp.theory,alt.messianic,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Sep 22 10:27:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/22/2026 2:03 AM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/22/26 1:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 21/09/2026 20:22, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/21/26 12:26 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 18:50, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is >>>>>>> not nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon, >>>>>>> neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental
    computing, nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be >>>>>> easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for
    Turing
    machines.

    correct,

    but this paper is how a halting algo can exist, it's not presenting >>>>> a halting algo in of itself

    That the nonexstence of super-Turing algorthms is not proven is already >>>> known. It is also unknown whether the behaviour of the Universe is
    Turing computable. If it is then there can't be any super-Turing
    computations.

    u can't argue against my paper unless u actually fking read it dud

    It seems that you can't argue for your paper even if you read it.


    it seems that u don't want to engage genuinely so Efuo dud

    This is embarrassing!

    You came here to get enlightened and you then called everyone a
    chuckle-shit, then cross-posted to alt.messianic and comp.theory - to
    engage genuinely?

    Obviously, it's a cry for help.

    Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. YMMV.

    "You can't make this stuff up. It would be unbelievable." - Dan Aykroyd
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to comp.theory,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic on Tue Sep 22 10:29:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/20/2026 12:13 AM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/19/26 3:23 PM, Dude wrote:
    On 9/19/2026 2:35 PM, dart200 wrote:
    v1.1 released, notable improvements:

    to appease the superfluous nitpicking:
    - -o1 title -> the halting problem paradox
    - -o1 line "The halting problem can then be constructed as such"
    -a-a -> "The undecidability paradox for the halting problem can then
    -a-a-a-a-a-a be constructed as such"

    pseudo-code:
    - all looping consolidated into a loop keyword
    -a-a see doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22548963 for more info

    -o6.1-2 overhaul:
    removed the hanging conjecture and replaced it with further
    explanation showing that a full enumeration of computable sequences
    constructed by output sequences decidable by parital recognizer Dp,
    and any associated anti-sequences to those sequences, cannot then be
    utilized to compute a true total diagonal across all computable
    sequence, either the anti or direct diagonal! the second fallacy is
    turing's paper is now fully demonstrated as a fallacy

    -o7.7 now concludes by proposing a computing more fundamental than
    that of turing machines, as justified by the thot experiment
    explained throughout the entirety of -o7

    links still the same:
    doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.22715823
    academia.edu/175392427

    This is a notable improvement. Good work!

    turing would be excited for sure,

    and you still have no fking clue what ur talking about dud

    Your paper might benefit from adding an introduction - something more explanatory than other than chuckle-shits. YMMV.

    That title doesn't seem fitting for Scientific American article.
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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to comp.theory,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Sep 22 11:55:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/22/2026 1:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 21/09/2026 20:22, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/21/26 12:26 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 18:50, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/20/26 2:38 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 01:26, dart200 wrote:

    so yes the halting problem is a genuine limit of sorts, but it is >>>>>> not nearly as limiting as we thought

    it does not present a practical limit to what we can decide upon, >>>>>> neither from the broader perspective of a more fundamental
    computing, nor from just within turing machine computing itself

    There are many interesting and other unsolved problems that would be >>>>> easy to solve if we had a halting decider or halting oracle for Turing >>>>> machines.

    correct,

    but this paper is how a halting algo can exist, it's not presenting
    a halting algo in of itself

    That the nonexstence of super-Turing algorthms is not proven is already
    known. It is also unknown whether the behaviour of the Universe is
    Turing computable. If it is then there can't be any super-Turing
    computations.

    u can't argue against my paper unless u actually fking read it dud

    It seems that you can't argue for your paper even if you read it.

    It's difficult to argue a paper to strap on chuckle-shits when you snip
    out the outline of the paper, and cross post to:

    alt.buddha.short.fat.guy.

    Hope this helps.
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