• How can humanity best protect itself from AI when AI becomes 10000---fold smarter than the smartest human?

    From olcott@polcott333@gmail.com to comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy,alt.philosophy on Fri Sep 18 08:46:27 2026
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    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG
    --
    Copyright 2026 Olcott

    My 28 year goal has been to make
    "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
    reliably computable for the entire body of general knowledge.
    The complete structure of this system is now defined.

    The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
    comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
    (a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

    My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
    expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
    language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

    (b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
    entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).

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  • From Ross Finlayson@ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com to comp.theory on Fri Sep 18 19:45:14 2026
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    On 09/18/2026 06:46 AM, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG




    Humility.

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.theory on Fri Sep 18 20:39:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/18/26 7:45 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 09/18/2026 06:46 AM, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG


    Humility.

    speculating on "artificial superintelligence", whatever the fuck that
    means, when it isn't even remotely identifiable as a concept is just a
    waste of our rather limited time on this earth...
    --
    arising us out of the computing dark ages,
    please excuse my pseudo-pyscript,
    ~ the lil crank that could
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  • From Mikko@mikko.levanto@iki.fi to comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy,alt.philosophy on Sat Sep 19 11:17:45 2026
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    On 18/09/2026 16:46, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG
    So ask an AI "It seems that the AI alignment problem can be easily
    addressed by the single directive of maximizing benevolence" and
    tell us how it answers.
    --
    Mikko
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  • From Johann \@johann@myrkraverk.invalid to comp.theory on Sat Sep 19 16:44:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    On 9/19/2026 11:39 AM, dart200 wrote:
    On 9/18/26 7:45 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On 09/18/2026 06:46 AM, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG


    Humility.

    speculating on "artificial superintelligence", whatever the fuck that
    means, when it isn't even remotely identifiable as a concept is just a
    waste of our rather limited time on this earth...


    Well, sometimes the "AI" means /actually Indians/. I believe I've said
    that before, and the story should be famous enough that I don't need to
    provide sources.

    Anyway, I /try/ to avoid stochastically incorrect word generators as
    much as I can. Unfortunately, I don't always realize I'm reading a gen-
    erated article until too late.


    Best wishes, and happy avoidance of L.L.Ms!
    --
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  • From Ed Cryer@ed@somewhere.in.the.uk to comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy,alt.philosophy on Sat Sep 19 10:54:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    Mikko wrote:
    On 18/09/2026 16:46, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG
    So ask an AI "It seems that the AI alignment problem can be easily
    addressed by the single directive of maximizing benevolence" and
    tell us how it answers.


    Conmen maximise benevolence; and then they rip you off.

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@ed@somewhere.in.the.uk to comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy,alt.philosophy on Sat Sep 19 15:42:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    Mikko wrote:
    On 18/09/2026 16:46, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG
    So ask an AI "It seems that the AI alignment problem can be easily
    addressed by the single directive of maximizing benevolence" and
    tell us how it answers.


    You seem to have failed to grasp the main point of what today's "AI"
    means. It's not some little algorithm to paint cars on an assembly line,
    nor slavishly translate languages as in John Searl's Chinese Room
    thought experiment. Its whole intent is to create new fields, new
    visions, new ways of looking at things. It has to roam completely out of
    the box; it needs initiative, nous, access to the whole Internet and
    freedom to scour it. It needs the uninhibited liberty of mind that we
    assume we humans have.

    Now, consider this.
    A non-human intelligence arrives on Earth with the intention of saving
    the planet. It surveys this biosphere, this ecosystem, and looks for corrupting influences. Would they be locusts, crocodiles, earth worms, vultures? No. Before all others it will be homo sapiens. We're the virus
    on this planet; we're the destructive species that wipes out others and pollutes land and sea. While all other species are controlled within
    nature's overall limits, we've climbed out of them. We can survive on
    land, 'neath the sea, in space, on other planets; and rape them just as
    we have this one.

    Simple answer for the alien intelligence; either curtail or eliminate
    homo sapiens; put this blue planet back where it should be.

    Ed


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  • From olcott@polcott333@gmail.com to comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy,alt.philosophy on Sat Sep 19 11:30:21 2026
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    On 9/19/2026 3:17 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 18/09/2026 16:46, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG
    So ask an AI "It seems that the AI alignment problem can be easily
    addressed by the single directive of maximizing benevolence" and
    tell us how it answers.


    https://copilot.microsoft.com/shares/mJKhyZ1VhMhgtceGx5vDV
    --
    Copyright 2026 Olcott

    My 28 year goal has been to make
    "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
    reliably computable for the entire body of general knowledge.
    The complete structure of this system is now defined.

    The entire body of knowledge expressed in language is
    comprised of two types of relations between finite strings:
    (a) *Axioms* Expressions of language that are stipulated to be true.

    My system bridges the analytic/synthetic distinction by
    expressly encoding all empirical "atomic facts" in a formal
    language such as CycL of the Cyc project.

    (b) *Inference Rules* Expressions of language that are semantically
    entailed syntactically from (a) and/or (b).
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  • From Daniel@me@fuhgitabutit.com to comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy,alt.philosophy on Sat Sep 19 12:40:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.theory

    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> writes:

    Mikko wrote:
    On 18/09/2026 16:46, olcott wrote:
    A prime directive of maximizing benevolence
    in the least intrusive way. It does this through
    gentle persuasion on the basis of objective truth.

    https://share.google/aimode/Uam0oXHyCSNKMAVeG
    So ask an AI "It seems that the AI alignment problem can be easily
    addressed by the single directive of maximizing benevolence" and
    tell us how it answers.


    You seem to have failed to grasp the main point of what today's "AI"
    means. It's not some little algorithm to paint cars on an assembly
    line, nor slavishly translate languages as in John Searl's Chinese
    Room thought experiment. Its whole intent is to create new fields, new visions, new ways of looking at things. It has to roam completely out
    of the box; it needs initiative, nous, access to the whole Internet
    and freedom to scour it. It needs the uninhibited liberty of mind that
    we assume we humans have.

    Now, consider this.
    A non-human intelligence arrives on Earth with the intention of saving
    the planet. It surveys this biosphere, this ecosystem, and looks for corrupting influences. Would they be locusts, crocodiles, earth worms, vultures? No. Before all others it will be homo sapiens. We're the
    virus on this planet; we're the destructive species that wipes out
    others and pollutes land and sea. While all other species are
    controlled within nature's overall limits, we've climbed out of
    them. We can survive on land, 'neath the sea, in space, on other
    planets; and rape them just as we have this one.

    Simple answer for the alien intelligence; either curtail or eliminate
    homo sapiens; put this blue planet back where it should be.

    Ed

    Please say your job doesn't involve a classroom of ANY sort.
    Please say you are childless, for the love of humanity.

    Some people are beyond help, unfortunately.
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