• Why can't Arlen behave like an adult and only post the same reply in a single place?

    From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system on Mon Jan 12 15:40:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner.

    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 00:32:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner.

    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT start behaving like an adult.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Mon Jan 12 20:20:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner.

    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because

    If you actually read the posts, you'd know why since I'm highly organized.

    I have a rather obvious and very strong goal on the Apple newsgroups.
    a. Educate the posters on this newsgroup
    b. Learn more about how Apple products work
    c. Help others answer questions they may ask

    If you read the posts you decry, you'd have already seen the explanation:

    Posted here to keep all the technical answers together in one thread.
    That way, this serves as a reference vehicle for how iOS actually works.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Mon Jan 12 18:15:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-01-12 17:20, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner. >>>
    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because

    If you actually read the posts, you'd know why since I'm highly organized.

    So "highly organized" that you appear to be unable to remember where
    you've posted identical text...


    I have a rather obvious and very strong goal on the Apple newsgroups.
    a. Educate the posters on this newsgroup

    You're not interested in educating anyone.

    b. Learn more about how Apple products work

    You're even less interested in learning.

    c. Help others answer questions they may ask

    If you read the posts you decry, you'd have already seen the explanation:

    Posted here to keep all the technical answers together in one thread.
    That way, this serves as a reference vehicle for how iOS actually works.

    How does this even refer to "technical answers", Arlen?


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 07:19:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 13.01.26 01:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner.

    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT start behaving like an adult.

    Hope same happens to you too.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 06:18:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 01/12/2026 19:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner.

    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT start behaving like an adult.


    Why do you take Arlen's posts so personally?
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  • From Alan B@user237@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 12:46:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> posted:

    On 01/12/2026 19:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner. >>
    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT start behaving like an adult.


    Why do you take Arlen's posts so personally?

    Why don't you guys filter or simply ignore him?
    --
    Cheers, Alan
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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 07:59:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 01/13/2026 07:46, Alan B wrote:
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> posted:

    On 01/12/2026 19:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner. >>>>
    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT >>> start behaving like an adult.


    Why do you take Arlen's posts so personally?

    Why don't you guys filter or simply ignore him?


    Because:
    - they want to be outraged
    - they want to play
    - they must defend Apple
    - they are bored

    Choose two.
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 14:17:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Jan 13, 2026 at 7:59:34rC>AM EST, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 01/13/2026 07:46, Alan B wrote:
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> posted:

    On 01/12/2026 19:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner. >>>>>
    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT
    start behaving like an adult.


    Why do you take Arlen's posts so personally?

    Why don't you guys filter or simply ignore him?


    Because:
    - they want to be outraged
    - they want to play
    - they must defend Apple
    - they are bored

    Choose two.

    None of the above.

    Apple does not need my "support". I am not outraged.

    I am merely pointing out the logical flaws in Arlen's posts. If he started a topic of "Why does Windows 11 nag me multiple times a day to login" and then link to random Microsoft web pages that state NOTHING about logging in, my reply would be the same:

    "I have multiple Windows 11 laptops/tablets. NONE of them EVER ask me to login other than the one time I login at boot up. And AGAIN, your links do not
    backup your claim".

    Does that mean I am "supporting" Microsoft?

    You have to establish that something is actually happening BEFORE you can ask WHY it is happening. Arlen never does that. He just states his opinion as
    fact, has nothing to back it up with and then wonders why no one agrees with the question of WHY it is happening.
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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 12:06:30 2026
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    On 01/13/2026 09:17, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 13, 2026 at 7:59:34rC>AM EST, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 01/13/2026 07:46, Alan B wrote:
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> posted:

    On 01/12/2026 19:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>
    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner.

    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT
    start behaving like an adult.


    Why do you take Arlen's posts so personally?

    Why don't you guys filter or simply ignore him?


    Because:
    - they want to be outraged
    - they want to play
    - they must defend Apple
    - they are bored

    Choose two.

    None of the above.

    Apple does not need my "support". I am not outraged.

    I am merely pointing out the logical flaws in Arlen's posts. If he started a topic of "Why does Windows 11 nag me multiple times a day to login" and then link to random Microsoft web pages that state NOTHING about logging in, my reply would be the same:

    "I have multiple Windows 11 laptops/tablets. NONE of them EVER ask me to login
    other than the one time I login at boot up. And AGAIN, your links do not backup your claim".

    Does that mean I am "supporting" Microsoft?

    You have to establish that something is actually happening BEFORE you can ask WHY it is happening. Arlen never does that. He just states his opinion as fact, has nothing to back it up with and then wonders why no one agrees with the question of WHY it is happening.


    My guess is Arlen's iOS devices constantly nag him to login because he
    refuses do so. You have logged in to your Apple account so it doesn't
    nag you unless you're downloading from the Apple Store or messing with
    security settings. The same goes with Microsoft Windows 11.

    Remember that Arlen's #1 priority with his devices is privacy so he will
    bend over backwards to avoid logging in or enabling location services.
    Those alone will require verification of identity numerous times.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 12:42:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    badgolferman wrote:
    My guess is Arlen's iOS devices constantly nag him to login because he refuses do so.

    Hi badgolferman,

    Thanks for understand my motives.
    You understand me well, perhaps because you're not blinded by ideology.

    I don't use any operating system only the way the OEM wants me to.
    I strive to make any ecosystem bend to my will, my needs, my goals.

    One of those goals is privacy.

    If I simply added the passwd (even though I never logged out), iOS would certainly stop nagging me for a while. Nags would pop up later of course.

    Because that's how iOS works.

    Note that iOS does not work like any other operating system (not even
    macOS), but that's a detail that isn't obvious until we understand how iOS truly works with respect to myriad intertwined tokens which expire and
    renew on a poorly documented (but easily tested) timed sequence.

    You have logged in to your Apple account so it doesn't
    nag you unless you're downloading from the Apple Store or messing with security settings.

    Yup. And it's even more complicated than that. It turns out that some of
    the tokens appear to be incestuous, by which I mean signing into some Apple services renews the tokens silently for other Apple services, but not all.

    That's why every user's experience will be different, but every user will eventually have their devices 'bricked' (Activation Lock) by Apple if they always refuse to sign into Apple services as some tokens will eventually
    expire that cannot be renewed without entering your passwd.

    The same goes with Microsoft Windows 11.

    With all due respect, everybody "thinks" that, but Windows 11 does not
    require any MSA account if you follow the well-publicized known tricks.

    Ask me how I know this fact that most people don't seem to understand...
    From: Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.microsoft.windows
    Subject: PSA: I can happily report that my first Win11 Home installed sans a MSA
    Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 15:24:16 -0500
    Message-ID: <10k3l9g$2ug$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Remember that Arlen's #1 priority with his devices is privacy so he will
    bend over backwards to avoid logging in or enabling location services.
    Those alone will require verification of identity numerous times.

    You're close... but it's only my secondary goal...

    What's interesting is that when I first entered the Apple mobile device
    world, it was with Costco iPods on sale, where I was astounded how
    difficult Apple made something as simple as sliding MP3 files back & forth.

    Then I bought an iPhone for my teen-age child where I was dismayed that
    AT&T was the only carrier so I had to jailbreak it to work with T-Mobile.

    Finally, I started buying iPads and iPhones as stocking stuffers, where
    when I set them up, I was dumbfounded by the unnecessary use restrictions.

    In all these cases, I am merely trying to get the Apple device to work the
    way all other similar devices work & not only the way Apple wants it to be.

    That's my #1 priority.
    Getting any Apple device to do what I want it to do.


    To make an Apple device do what it should do is a lesson in humility, perseverance & intellectual understanding that cannot be underestimated.

    My #2 priority is privacy. :)

    But that's basically impossible on any mobile device, least of all Apple's.
    --
    If we don't ask probing questions of why Apple does what it does,
    then we will never be able to discuss Apple products intelligently.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Tue Jan 13 12:37:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-01-13 03:18, badgolferman wrote:
    On 01/12/2026 19:32, Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner. >>>
    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because he is a kiddie troll who needs attention. When he grows up he MIGHT >> start behaving like an adult.


    Why do you take Arlen's posts so personally?

    Why won't you address the fact (actual fact, not Arlen assertion he
    claims is a fact) that Arlen posts multiple replies that contain the
    exact same text, bar the text to which he is replying?
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Jan 14 17:42:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 1/12/2026 8:20 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Tyrone wrote:
    On Jan 12, 2026 at 6:40:21rC>PM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    At this point, we really do not need to ask IF he behaves in this manner. >>>
    We all know he does.

    So I'm asking why so that we can all be better educated.

    ;-)

    Because

    If you actually read the posts, you'd know why since I'm highly organized.

    I have a rather obvious and very strong goal on the Apple newsgroups.
    a. Educate the posters on this newsgroup
    b. Learn more about how Apple products work
    c. Help others answer questions they may ask

    If you read the posts you decry, you'd have already seen the explanation:

    Posted here to keep all the technical answers together in one thread.
    That way, this serves as a reference vehicle for how iOS actually works.

    Apple newsgroups constitute a vanishing tiny proportion of Apple's OS
    users. Maybe 0.00001%? So why do you spend so much time on this project?

    I nominate Don Quixote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote) as
    your nom de guerre for your 2027 tilting at windmills (https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/tilting-at-windmills.html#google_vignette) anti-Apple campaign.

    Seriously, do you have ANY idea what a total waste of time this all is?

    As for me, I'm retired and do know that CSMA is a waste of time.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Jan 14 18:19:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tom Elam wrote:
    Seriously, do you have ANY idea what a total waste of time this all is?

    Hi Tom Elam,

    I'm also retired and I have been retired for 15 year.

    I try to understand not only the Apple ecosystem, but also the Apple users.

    Both are not normal so it is NOT intuitive.

    Without going deeply, the entire Apple ecosystem is brilliant propaganda by
    one of the slickest marketing organizations in the world. It's never what
    Apple says it is. That's what is so interesting about Apple products.

    Everything that people think they know about the Apple ecosystem is fed to
    them by Apple (e.g., "it just works") when it's almost always a brazen lie.

    Given how slick the Apple propaganda is, the "typical Apple user" is also interesting because they fall for every marketing trick in the book.

    The Apple owner tends to be a cultist whose very ego is tied to the
    product, which is why the Apple user on this ng is so interesting to me.

    Most Apple posters on this newsgroup hate me because I don't fall for the tricks so I don't belong to the cult, but I find them very interesting as a result.
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Jan 15 08:16:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 1/14/2026 6:19 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Tom Elam wrote:
    Seriously, do you have ANY idea what a total waste of time this all is?

    Hi Tom Elam,

    I'm also retired and I have been retired for 15 year.

    I try to understand not only the Apple ecosystem, but also the Apple users.

    Both are not normal so it is NOT intuitive.

    Without going deeply, the entire Apple ecosystem is brilliant propaganda by one of the slickest marketing organizations in the world. It's never what Apple says it is. That's what is so interesting about Apple products.

    Everything that people think they know about the Apple ecosystem is fed to them by Apple (e.g., "it just works") when it's almost always a brazen lie.

    Given how slick the Apple propaganda is, the "typical Apple user" is also interesting because they fall for every marketing trick in the book.

    The Apple owner tends to be a cultist whose very ego is tied to the
    product, which is why the Apple user on this ng is so interesting to me.

    Most Apple posters on this newsgroup hate me because I don't fall for the tricks so I don't belong to the cult, but I find them very interesting as a result.

    You did not answer my question. Look at how few people actually use
    CSMA. Maybe a few dozen at most. If you feel this way why do you hide in
    this neglected corner of the social platform universe? Do you not
    actually believe in your own messaging? Are you afraid of being exposed
    as the fraud you are if you go to a wider audience? Do you lack any
    other interests? Are you mentally ill?

    Your projection of others who respond on CSMA is interesting. They cite verifiable sources that effectively counter your posts. You seem to
    never respond directly to them. Instead you copy/paste your past post contents.

    There is no Apple cult. Your posts are frequently wildly wrong. You are
    a cult of 1.

    At least in my case there is no ego tied to Apple. All of our 3 laptops
    (HP and Dell) run Windows 11. We use Google Home. Our 6 Apple devices
    (phones, tablets and watches) are loaded with Google, third party and Microsoft apps. Our music comes from YouTube Music, books from Kindle,
    news from Google and NBC. We use Google Maps, not Apple. We do not have
    a single Apple TV in the house. All are various brands on Roku. I use
    the software that works for me. Same for the hardware. All based on
    informed learning from where I started out on a Tandy TRS Model 3 in
    late 1980.

    I did have an Apple iMac briefly. It was a disaster compared to Windows
    2000. That was a joke of a computer and OS 9 was years behind Windows.
    Having said that, modern Mac OS is a very tempting Windows alternative.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Jan 15 14:40:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tom Elam wrote:
    Most Apple posters on this newsgroup hate me because I don't fall for the
    tricks so I don't belong to the cult, but I find them very interesting as a >> result.

    You did not answer my question. Look at how few people actually use
    CSMA. Maybe a few dozen at most. If you feel this way why do you hide in this neglected corner of the social platform universe? Do you not
    actually believe in your own messaging? Are you afraid of being exposed
    as the fraud you are if you go to a wider audience? Do you lack any
    other interests? Are you mentally ill?

    Your projection of others who respond on CSMA is interesting. They cite verifiable sources that effectively counter your posts. You seem to
    never respond directly to them. Instead you copy/paste your past post contents.

    Hi Tom Elam,

    I do appreciate your observations as I read all that you post always.
    Because you interest me.

    I agree c.s.m.a and m.p.m.i do have only a handful of common posters.
    What I "should" do is write a book about what Apple really is all about.

    the future book would be modeled after "unsafe at any speed", which both
    doomed the Corvair but it turned it into a cult object at the same time.

    If successful, it could halve Apple's TMV for a short period of time.
    That's how much I know about Apple propaganda being based on lies.

    I don't benefit from pushing Apple toward bankruptcy, and I don't care
    about benefiting Android since I'm not an Android zealot, but I would like
    to benefit the hundreds of millions of people who believe Apple's lies.

    It's for them that I'd write the book covering the truth about Apple.

    My "book" (unwritten) will discuss the typical Apple proponent on Usenet, which, of course, is whom I've been studying for oh, about fifteen years.

    To that end, I find you interesting in that you feel Alan Baker and Snit
    and Joerg Lorenz speak for the true Apple product, which fits my assessment
    of you since you seem to have a religious belief system that feels any
    truth outside your religious belief system can't possibly be true.

    While you seem to want me to respond to their insults instead of brining
    the technical content back away from their taunts, I won't do that anymore.

    Apparently when they deflect all criticism of Apple to, oh, say, Apple
    profits instead, you want me to discuss Apple profits instead of what I was technically discussing - but I'm not going to do that, Tom. I'm just not.

    But I do thank you for describing to me how your religion works, as every
    day I read EVERYTHING you write on this newsgroup, and I learn about you.
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Fri Jan 16 07:23:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 1/15/2026 2:40 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Tom Elam wrote:
    Most Apple posters on this newsgroup hate me because I don't fall for the >>> tricks so I don't belong to the cult, but I find them very interesting as a >>> result.

    You did not answer my question. Look at how few people actually use
    CSMA. Maybe a few dozen at most. If you feel this way why do you hide in
    this neglected corner of the social platform universe? Do you not
    actually believe in your own messaging? Are you afraid of being exposed
    as the fraud you are if you go to a wider audience? Do you lack any
    other interests? Are you mentally ill?

    Your projection of others who respond on CSMA is interesting. They cite
    verifiable sources that effectively counter your posts. You seem to
    never respond directly to them. Instead you copy/paste your past post
    contents.

    Hi Tom Elam,

    I do appreciate your observations as I read all that you post always.
    Because you interest me.

    I agree c.s.m.a and m.p.m.i do have only a handful of common posters.
    What I "should" do is write a book about what Apple really is all about.

    the future book would be modeled after "unsafe at any speed", which both doomed the Corvair but it turned it into a cult object at the same time.

    If successful, it could halve Apple's TMV for a short period of time.
    That's how much I know about Apple propaganda being based on lies.

    I don't benefit from pushing Apple toward bankruptcy, and I don't care
    about benefiting Android since I'm not an Android zealot, but I would like
    to benefit the hundreds of millions of people who believe Apple's lies.

    It's for them that I'd write the book covering the truth about Apple.

    My "book" (unwritten) will discuss the typical Apple proponent on Usenet, which, of course, is whom I've been studying for oh, about fifteen years.

    To that end, I find you interesting in that you feel Alan Baker and Snit
    and Joerg Lorenz speak for the true Apple product, which fits my assessment of you since you seem to have a religious belief system that feels any
    truth outside your religious belief system can't possibly be true.

    While you seem to want me to respond to their insults instead of brining
    the technical content back away from their taunts, I won't do that anymore.

    Apparently when they deflect all criticism of Apple to, oh, say, Apple profits instead, you want me to discuss Apple profits instead of what I was technically discussing - but I'm not going to do that, Tom. I'm just not.

    But I do thank you for describing to me how your religion works, as every
    day I read EVERYTHING you write on this newsgroup, and I learn about you.

    LOL! I do not care about Apple as a company. I like their products. Same
    for Microsoft and Windows. Same for EGO and their lawn tools, Subaru and
    their cars. One company I do almost worship is Cessna. I have flown
    their aircraft almost exclusively since 1967.

    Thinking you could depress Apple's stock price by half based on a book
    by an unknown author is delusional. If you are as you claim retired and
    been haunting CSMA for over a decade, but not written that book, you
    likely never will. Anyway, criticism of Apple, it's products and
    business practices, is hardly novel. Nor is your commentary herein
    original, Don Quixote.
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Fri Jan 16 13:53:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On Jan 16, 2026 at 7:23:29rC>AM EST, "Tom Elam" <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:

    Thinking you could depress Apple's stock price by half based on a book
    by an unknown author is delusional.

    All of Arlen's posts here - about imaginary "problems" with iPhones - are also delusional. That he continues to double down on his absurd claims - in the
    face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary - is beyond delusional.

    If you are as you claim retired and
    been haunting CSMA for over a decade, but not written that book, you
    likely never will. Anyway, criticism of Apple, it's products and
    business practices, is hardly novel. Nor is your commentary herein
    original, Don Quixote.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Fri Jan 16 22:48:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tom Elam wrote:
    But I do thank you for describing to me how your religion works, as every
    day I read EVERYTHING you write on this newsgroup, and I learn about you.

    LOL! I do not care about Apple as a company. I like their products. Same
    for Microsoft and Windows. Same for EGO and their lawn tools, Subaru and their cars. One company I do almost worship is Cessna. I have flown
    their aircraft almost exclusively since 1967.

    Thinking you could depress Apple's stock price by half based on a book
    by an unknown author is delusional. If you are as you claim retired and
    been haunting CSMA for over a decade, but not written that book, you
    likely never will. Anyway, criticism of Apple, it's products and
    business practices, is hardly novel. Nor is your commentary herein
    original, Don Quixote.

    Hi Tom Elam,

    Thank you for your philosophical words of advice. It seems to me that explaining how Apple's marketing distorts reality for so many people may
    or may not ever attract public attention the way "Unsafe at Any Speed"
    did in the 1960s.

    My point of view is that understanding how Apple products works is
    important because most people seem to have no clue that Apple's stated
    reasons for why they do things, is never what the real reasons appear to be once we apply a healthy dose of logic to sthe actual results.

    For a simple yet super obvious example, Apple marketing claims to lock us
    into a vise "for our protection" and yet, there is no added protection.

    Think about that fact. There isn't a security professional on this planet
    who agrees with Apple marketing propaganda, and yet most people do.

    That's a pretty healthy criticism of Apple's propaganda, is it not?

    Remember, criticism does not have to be novel to be worthwhile as Apple is
    no more evil than Big Tobacco is. They're just more brilliant. That's all.

    I, for one, appreciate Apple's brilliance in marketing where they can
    transform even minor incremental updates into huge cultural events.

    Apple's brilliant marketing polishes the mundane until it feels
    indispensable to people who are susceptible to not questioning why.

    I simply need to document the truth about Apple products. That's all.
    History is built on people documenting the same patterns of incessant propaganda, until they are impossible to ignore by the intelligentsia.

    If you are comfortable with Apple's practices, that is your prerogative.
    I am simply different than most people in that it irks me when someone
    kicks dogs and then tells you to your face the dog deserved to be kicked.

    That's how Apple treats its customers.
    I simply want to document the evil that is inherent in Apple's propaganda.

    It's not to save me, as I never was confused about why Apple brazenly lies. It's to help others realize the truth about Apple products that drives me.

    You can call that Don Quixote if you like, but every critique looks like windmill-tilting to someone who is already satisfied with propaganda.
    --
    To make an Apple device do what it should do is a lesson in humility, perseverance & intellectual understanding that cannot be underestimated.

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