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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

I've tested it. You haven't.

My iPhone SE that has been functioning perfectly without being signed
into Apple's servers is living proof I *have* tested it.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Unless you're jailbroken perhaps... that is an absurd claim, even from you.

If you actually _believe_ you've never "signed into Apple's servers", then
it's going to be difficult to carry on any *adult conversation* with you.

Because... you audaciously claim...
*You've never even once sent or received a message on your Messages app?*
*You've never even once sent or received a FaceTime conversation?*
*You've never even once installed an app from Apple's App Store?*
*You've never even once experienced a default backup to the iCloud?*
*You've never even once upgraded your version or updated your subversion?*
*You've never even once posted or received iCloud mail from your iPhone?*
*You never (optionally) signed up for 2-factor authorization perhaps?*
etc.

No *adult* would claim what you just claimed on an iOS device, Jolly Roger. Certainly no *adult* would believe it given that's how iOS is designed.

This is, for example, my nag screen when I recently updated to iOS
<https://i.postimg.cc/9fPjQpr3/nag01.jpg> 3 iOS 16.7.3 nag items
<https://i.postimg.cc/wxwgN0Fg/nag02.jpg> 2 iOS1 6.7.3 nag items
<https://i.postimg.cc/3NVqB4dC/nag03.jpg> 1 Update Apple ID settings

Your crippled device is proof that you:
1. signed into Apple servers
2. forgot your credentials
3. got locked out of Apple services as a result of your stupidity
4. turned around and blamed Apple like the dip shit boomer you are
5. lied about it in order to troll the Apple newsgroups

First off, I know the credentials, so that strawman is remiss.

Second, it's not crippled so much as unilaterally bricked by Apple simply
for not constantly and repeatedly signing into Apple servers, Jolly Roger.

Which I did on purpose.
On three iPads.

Just to test what Apple would do.

Here's what Apple did recently when I proved to them by giving away my
privacy - because Apple required my government ID & proof of purchase, just
so that Apple would _unlock_ my Apple ID (whose password never changed).
<https://i.postimg.cc/7P7NCctS/locked-01.jpg> AppleID is locked by Apple
<https://i.postimg.cc/4dHQQFfk/locked-02.jpg> Password was always good
<https://i.postimg.cc/vTdfLY2f/locked-03.jpg> Apple wants a gov license!!!
<https://i.postimg.cc/rpmJKw7p/locked-04.jpg> Then, iCloud works again
<https://i.postimg.cc/rwyGPpV9/locked-05.jpg> Then, Messages works again

In summary, you _hate_ the fact that Apple forces users to constantly log
into Apple servers when no other operating system (maybe now with Windows
11) forces the users to constantly and repetitively log into those
mothership tracking servers - or - Apple will unilaterally lock your
account (which essentially unilaterally bricks your Apple device given most functionality is inside the walled garden).

*You _hate_ that fact about Apple*, Jolly Roger.

But you hating all facts about Apple doesn't make those facts not facts.
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It just means you hate what Apple does.
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On 2023-12-15, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

I've tested it. You haven't.

My iPhone SE that has been functioning perfectly without being signed
into Apple's servers is living proof I *have* tested it.

Hi Jolly Roger,

Unless you're jailbroken

Nope, sorry. No jailbreak needed. Your ignorance is astounding. There is
no requirement to log into Apple servers on an iPhone. You willingly
signed in, "forgot" your own credentials, and bullheadedly refused to
fix the problem you caused, locking yourself out of your own device
(likely also willingly in order to roll your lame troll).

If you actually _believe_ you've never "signed into Apple's servers"

The record shows I didn't make that idiotic claim. You have a real
problem with reading comprehension it seems. What I did say is true:
there is no requirement to log into Apple servers in order to use an
iPhone, and your "problem" was self-created by you logging into Apple
servers willingly, "forgetting" your credentials, and refusing to
rectify that self-imposed issue.

it's going to be difficult to carry on any *adult conversation* with you.

You project like no other, Arlen.

Your crippled device is proof that you:
1. signed into Apple servers
2. forgot your credentials
3. got locked out of Apple services as a result of your stupidity
4. turned around and blamed Apple like the dip shit boomer you are
5. lied about it in order to troll the Apple newsgroups

First off, I know the credentials, so that strawman is remiss.

That's a lie. You are on record stating you used fake throw-away
credentials that you *couldn't* remember. And if you *did* know them,
you would have easily entered them.

Second, it's not crippled so much as unilaterally bricked by Apple
simply for not constantly and repeatedly signing into Apple servers

Nope, you locked yourself out by refusing to verify the credentials you
used to willingly sign in.

Which I did on purpose.

Indeed, you fucked yourself on purpose in order to roll your lame troll.
You're a clown.

On three iPads.

LOL... Efnu

Just to test what Apple would do.

Just to troll.
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"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote

I just tested, and MMS is available in Movistar (Spain).

To test, I disabled RCS in phone #2. Then in phone #1 I tried to send a message. It changed the display note to "SMS". I typed "Aa" then a big smiley. Instantly, it said MMS. I did not hit send, it costs money.

Thanks for running that test for the team, Carlos, as everyone pitches in
to provide the tribal knowledge of these combined Usenet newsgroups.

Here in the states, most of us (not all though) have unlimited free MMS so
we don't need RCS to send MMS via the Internet data on the phone plan.

Hence, we don't see as much value to RCS as you do - where the iPhone users seem to complain a lot about bubble color which is another thing most of us don't care about (as on Android, all users look the same to us, AFAICT).

Hence, for those few who are affected by MMS charges, it's good that you
ran those tests as we can't run them given we don't have the same issues.
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