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On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 00:37:17 -0000 (UTC), Linonut wrote:

Right off the bat I found the Ubuntu gui to be somewhat odd and not
at all intuitive to me a MacOS user.

You do realize you donrCOt just have one choice of GUIs, right?

Linux is a Unix-type system. Maybe yourCOre not used to the concept of Unix-type systems, where the GUI is modular and replaceable.
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On Sep 20, 2026 at 9:02:14rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 00:37:17 -0000 (UTC), Linonut wrote:

Right off the bat I found the Ubuntu gui to be somewhat odd and not
at all intuitive to me a MacOS user.

You do realize you donrCOt just have one choice of GUIs, right?

YOU do realize that changing the GUI on Linux is beyond the capabilities of USERS, right?

Linux is a Unix-type system. Maybe yourCOre not used to the concept of Unix-type systems, where the GUI is modular and replaceable.

MacOS is a Unix-type system. Maybe you are still in denial of the concept
that ALL Apple hardware runs the same Apple Unix OS with different GUIs. Because the GUI is modular and replaceable, just like all Unix-type systems.

Thus Macs, iPhones, iPads and Apple watches all run Apple Unix with very different GUIs.
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 01:02:14 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

You do realize you donrCOt just have one choice of GUIs, right?

Sure.

Try choosing fvwm3 or any of the many, many other stacking/tiling
window managers on a "modern" wayland system. You will be SOL
(shit outa luck).

Your definition of "choice" is obviously "whatever IBM/RedHat says."

Effing idiot.

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 01:47:56 +0000, Leroy H wrote:

Try choosing fvwm3 or any of the many, many other stacking/tiling window managers on a "modern" wayland system. You will be SOL (shit outa
luck).

I use sway on Wayland and i3 on X11. There are a few things i3 does that
do not work in Wayland but nothing I miss.

It has more glitz than I need but Hyprland seems to work well with
Wayland. I have Omarchy up in a VM. Interesting but not my thing. Too much crap like HEY and WhatsApp that I have no use for and I prefer Vim to
Neovim. Like the DE ricers Neovim exists so people can spend their time writing Lua scripts to make it work.
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On 21 Sep 2026 02:41:22 GMT, rbowman wrote:

[snip]

The most important term in desktop computing is "minimalism."

It is a term that most users cannot understand but its significance
is profound.

My mantra:

Be minimal or be nothing.

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 01:35:28 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

On Sep 20, 2026 at 9:02:14rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 00:37:17 -0000 (UTC), Linonut wrote:

Right off the bat I found the Ubuntu gui to be somewhat odd and
not at all intuitive to me a MacOS user.

You do realize you donrCOt just have one choice of GUIs, right?

YOU do realize that changing the GUI on Linux is beyond the
capabilities of USERS, right?

Why, do you think it takes some kind of special voodoo black magic
beyond installing any other package?

Linux is a Unix-type system. Maybe yourCOre not used to the concept
of Unix-type systems, where the GUI is modular and replaceable.

MacOS is a Unix-type system.

It is a licensee of the trademark, nothing more. And worse than that,
the version of the rCLUNIXrCY spec it conforms to is not the latest one,
but was last updated over 20 years ago.

And you certainly canrCOt install a different GUI on it.
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On 2026-09-20 9:02 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 00:37:17 -0000 (UTC), Linonut wrote:

Right off the bat I found the Ubuntu gui to be somewhat odd and not
at all intuitive to me a MacOS user.

You do realize you donrCOt just have one choice of GUIs, right?

Linux is a Unix-type system. Maybe yourCOre not used to the concept of Unix-type systems, where the GUI is modular and replaceable.

To be honest, I don't see much difference between the default Ubuntu experience and the MacOS one other than the fact that Apple's version is polished.
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On Sep 20, 2026 at 11:13:20rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 01:35:28 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

On Sep 20, 2026 at 9:02:14rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> >> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 00:37:17 -0000 (UTC), Linonut wrote:

Right off the bat I found the Ubuntu gui to be somewhat odd and
not at all intuitive to me a MacOS user.

You do realize you donrCOt just have one choice of GUIs, right?

YOU do realize that changing the GUI on Linux is beyond the
capabilities of USERS, right?

Why, do you think it takes some kind of special voodoo black magic
beyond installing any other package?

For a USER, yes.

Linux is a Unix-type system. Maybe yourCOre not used to the concept
of Unix-type systems, where the GUI is modular and replaceable.

MacOS is a Unix-type system.

It is a licensee of the trademark, nothing more. And worse than that,
the version of the rCLUNIXrCY spec it conforms to is not the latest one,
but was last updated over 20 years ago.

And exactly how recent Unix spec does Linux conform to? And which version of Linux is that?

And you certainly canrCOt install a different GUI on it.

Why would you want to? And you certainly could if the full source code was available. But of course that is not available. Nor should it be.

AGAIN, Apple Unix already has several GUIs. Interesting how you snipped that.
MacOS, iOS, iPadOS and WatchOS are all Apple Unix, but with different GUIs specifically designed for the hardware in question.

AGAIN, Apple Unix is Unix. That you can't stand that is YOUR problem. Not Apple's.
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