• M2: Episode 1 (or, Asahi Linux on M3)

    From John Bokma@contact@johnbokma.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Sep 7 19:18:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Linux support for M3 series SoCs and the machines powered by them is now
    in a state where almost everything supported on the M1 and M2 series
    machines just works. This includes the webcam, internal microphones, USB
    (up to the hardware limit of USB 3 10 Gb/s), hardware accelerated video decoding including support for AV1, WiFi, Bluetooth, and much more! The
    only major exceptions remain full DCP support and the GPU, which we will
    have more news on in the coming months. Do not expect performant or power-efficient 3D acceleration right now." <https://asahilinux.org/2026/09/m2-episode-1/>
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Sep 8 20:44:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt
    know ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run
    a better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 02:16:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 20:44:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt know
    ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run a
    better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It is odd. I can see people with older Macs with Intel silicon moving to
    Linux but I'd think Apple fans would stay with macOS. Is macOS becoming as enshitified as Windows?
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  • From John Bokma@contact@johnbokma.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 10:55:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 08/09/2026 22:44, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt know ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run
    a better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It's not ready yet. Let's hope it is by the time Apple doesn't support
    macOS on M1 anymore.
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  • From John Bokma@contact@johnbokma.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 10:56:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 09/09/2026 04:16, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 20:44:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt know
    ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run a
    better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It is odd. I can see people with older Macs with Intel silicon moving to Linux but I'd think Apple fans would stay with macOS. Is macOS becoming as enshitified as Windows?

    No longer supported on old Intel Macs as far as I know.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 05:02:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 9/9/2026 4:56 AM, John Bokma wrote:
    On 09/09/2026 04:16, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 20:44:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt know
    ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run a
    better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It is odd. I can see people with older Macs with Intel silicon moving to
    Linux but I'd think Apple fans would stay with macOS. Is macOS
    becoming as
    enshitified as Windows?

    No longer supported on old Intel Macs as far as I know.


    Well, any normal Apple fan would have another $1500 to spend on a new
    system, every so often. Totally ridiculous to expect Apple to support
    the OS on hardware that's not close enough to current!

    (Which is a pretty fair criticism of Microsoft, as well, look at how
    Win10 morphed from a minor upgrade to 8.1 into the preview of 11, and
    how 11 has bulked beyond that. But Apple isn't really different,
    because they deprecate older hardware, that people spent a small fortune
    to buy from the pigs.)
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From John Bokma@contact@johnbokma.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 12:02:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 09/09/2026 11:02, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/9/2026 4:56 AM, John Bokma wrote:
    On 09/09/2026 04:16, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 20:44:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt >>>> know
    ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run a
    better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It is odd. I can see people with older Macs with Intel silicon moving to >>> Linux but I'd think Apple fans would stay with macOS. Is macOS
    becoming as
    enshitified as Windows?

    No longer supported on old Intel Macs as far as I know.


    Well, any normal Apple fan would have another $1500 to spend on a new system, every so often.-a Totally ridiculous to expect Apple to support
    the OS on hardware that's not close enough to current!

    (Which is a pretty fair criticism of Microsoft, as well, look at how
    Win10 morphed from a minor upgrade to 8.1 into the preview of 11, and
    how 11 has bulked beyond that.-a But Apple isn't really different,
    because they deprecate older hardware, that people spent a small fortune
    to buy from the pigs.)

    It's best to try to sell old hardware before it gets too old. With Apple
    the second hand value is quite ok based on what I've seen.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 06:07:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 9/9/2026 6:02 AM, John Bokma wrote:

    any normal Apple fan would have another $1500 to spend on a new
    system, every so often.-a Totally ridiculous to expect Apple to support
    the OS on hardware that's not close enough to current!

    (Which is a pretty fair criticism of Microsoft, as well, look at how
    Win10 morphed from a minor upgrade to 8.1 into the preview of 11, and
    how 11 has bulked beyond that.-a But Apple isn't really different,
    because they deprecate older hardware, that people spent a small
    fortune to buy from the pigs.)

    It's best to try to sell old hardware before it gets too old. With Apple
    the second hand value is quite ok based on what I've seen.


    Yeah, heh, like it's a fuckin' car and shit. Just amazing these dupes
    paying Apple for anything. Their software isn't even all that. People
    with functional brains prefer Linux or Windows. Just astoundingly stupid.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 13:02:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-09-07 1:18 p.m., John Bokma wrote:
    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Linux support for M3 series SoCs and the machines powered by them is now
    in a state where almost everything supported on the M1 and M2 series machines just works. This includes the webcam, internal microphones, USB
    (up to the hardware limit of USB 3 10 Gb/s), hardware accelerated video decoding including support for AV1, WiFi, Bluetooth, and much more! The
    only major exceptions remain full DCP support and the GPU, which we will have more news on in the coming months. Do not expect performant or power-efficient 3D acceleration right now." <https://asahilinux.org/2026/09/m2-episode-1/>


    What a waste of a good Mac.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 13:23:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-09-08 10:16 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 20:44:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt know
    ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run a
    better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It is odd. I can see people with older Macs with Intel silicon moving to Linux but I'd think Apple fans would stay with macOS. Is macOS becoming as enshitified as Windows?

    It's not. It runs wonderfully, on this hardware at least.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 13:24:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-09-09 4:55 a.m., John Bokma wrote:
    On 08/09/2026 22:44, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt
    know ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run
    a better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It's not ready yet. Let's hope it is by the time Apple doesn't support
    macOS on M1 anymore.


    I applaud the desire to hold onto your hardware for a little longer by installing Linux on it. Unfortunately, it will result in reduced battery
    life and a significant downgrade in experience. You're actually better
    off keeping MacOS on it, unsupported and all, than you are to install Linux.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 13:26:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-09-09 6:07 a.m., Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/9/2026 6:02 AM, John Bokma wrote:

    any normal Apple fan would have another $1500 to spend on a new
    system, every so often.-a Totally ridiculous to expect Apple to
    support the OS on hardware that's not close enough to current!

    (Which is a pretty fair criticism of Microsoft, as well, look at how
    Win10 morphed from a minor upgrade to 8.1 into the preview of 11, and
    how 11 has bulked beyond that.-a But Apple isn't really different,
    because they deprecate older hardware, that people spent a small
    fortune to buy from the pigs.)

    It's best to try to sell old hardware before it gets too old. With
    Apple the second hand value is quite ok based on what I've seen.


    Yeah, heh, like it's a fuckin' car and shit.-a Just amazing these dupes paying Apple for anything.-a Their software isn't even all that.-a People with functional brains prefer Linux or Windows.-a Just astoundingly stupid.

    I find it ironic that a guy who believes his boyfriend is a woman, who
    is constantly high out of his mind, who is unskilled and unemployed is commenting on others not having a functional brain.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 13:50:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 9/9/2026 1:26 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-09-09 6:07 a.m., Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/9/2026 6:02 AM, John Bokma wrote:

    any normal Apple fan would have another $1500 to spend on a new
    system, every so often.-a Totally ridiculous to expect Apple to
    support the OS on hardware that's not close enough to current!

    (Which is a pretty fair criticism of Microsoft, as well, look at how
    Win10 morphed from a minor upgrade to 8.1 into the preview of 11,
    and how 11 has bulked beyond that.-a But Apple isn't really
    different, because they deprecate older hardware, that people spent
    a small fortune to buy from the pigs.)

    It's best to try to sell old hardware before it gets too old. With
    Apple the second hand value is quite ok based on what I've seen.

    Yeah, heh, like it's a fuckin' car and shit.-a Just amazing these dupes
    paying Apple for anything.-a Their software isn't even all that.
    People with functional brains prefer Linux or Windows.-a Just
    astoundingly stupid.

    I find it ironic that a guy who believes his boyfriend is a woman, who
    is constantly high out of his mind, who is unskilled and unemployed is commenting on others not having a functional brain.


    You're the exception, since you've for now chosen Apple, like Michael
    and Alan, I respect true computer nerds who dig Macs, but it is funny
    the prices they charge for the bullshit, when you can get something to
    run Windows or Linux for peanuts.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 18:32:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Wed, 9 Sep 2026 10:56:32 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    On 09/09/2026 04:16, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 20:44:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt >>> know ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run
    a better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It is odd. I can see people with older Macs with Intel silicon moving
    to Linux but I'd think Apple fans would stay with macOS. Is macOS
    becoming as enshitified as Windows?

    No longer supported on old Intel Macs as far as I know.

    I should have been more explicit. Moving to Linux on unsupported Intel
    silicon Apple devices makes sense. I don't see the motivation for moving
    to Linux for Apple silicon machines. The users paid a premium to but the
    M* products presumably because they liked macOS. Why switch to a somewhat buggy Asahi?
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 15:32:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-09-09 1:50 p.m., Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/9/2026 1:26 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-09-09 6:07 a.m., Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/9/2026 6:02 AM, John Bokma wrote:

    any normal Apple fan would have another $1500 to spend on a new
    system, every so often.-a Totally ridiculous to expect Apple to
    support the OS on hardware that's not close enough to current!

    (Which is a pretty fair criticism of Microsoft, as well, look at
    how Win10 morphed from a minor upgrade to 8.1 into the preview of
    11, and how 11 has bulked beyond that.-a But Apple isn't really
    different, because they deprecate older hardware, that people spent >>>>> a small fortune to buy from the pigs.)

    It's best to try to sell old hardware before it gets too old. With
    Apple the second hand value is quite ok based on what I've seen.

    Yeah, heh, like it's a fuckin' car and shit.-a Just amazing these
    dupes paying Apple for anything.-a Their software isn't even all that.
    People with functional brains prefer Linux or Windows.-a Just
    astoundingly stupid.

    I find it ironic that a guy who believes his boyfriend is a woman, who
    is constantly high out of his mind, who is unskilled and unemployed is
    commenting on others not having a functional brain.


    You're the exception, since you've for now chosen Apple, like Michael
    and Alan, I respect true computer nerds who dig Macs, but it is funny
    the prices they charge for the bullshit, when you can get something to
    run Windows or Linux for peanuts.

    Part of why is because the Windows computers also feel like they're
    worth peanuts.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Sep 9 15:42:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 9/9/2026 3:32 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-09-09 1:50 p.m., Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/9/2026 1:26 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-09-09 6:07 a.m., Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 9/9/2026 6:02 AM, John Bokma wrote:

    any normal Apple fan would have another $1500 to spend on a new
    system, every so often.-a Totally ridiculous to expect Apple to
    support the OS on hardware that's not close enough to current!

    (Which is a pretty fair criticism of Microsoft, as well, look at
    how Win10 morphed from a minor upgrade to 8.1 into the preview of >>>>>> 11, and how 11 has bulked beyond that.-a But Apple isn't really
    different, because they deprecate older hardware, that people
    spent a small fortune to buy from the pigs.)

    It's best to try to sell old hardware before it gets too old. With
    Apple the second hand value is quite ok based on what I've seen.

    Yeah, heh, like it's a fuckin' car and shit.-a Just amazing these
    dupes paying Apple for anything.-a Their software isn't even all
    that. People with functional brains prefer Linux or Windows.-a Just
    astoundingly stupid.

    I find it ironic that a guy who believes his boyfriend is a woman,
    who is constantly high out of his mind, who is unskilled and
    unemployed is commenting on others not having a functional brain.

    You're the exception, since you've for now chosen Apple, like Michael
    and Alan, I respect true computer nerds who dig Macs, but it is funny
    the prices they charge for the bullshit, when you can get something to
    run Windows or Linux for peanuts.

    Part of why is because the Windows computers also feel like they're
    worth peanuts.


    Maybe they are, that's the whole point, Apple is overselling. A
    computer is a commodity, now. Apple is staunchly in the luxury lane,
    though, nevertheless.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From John Bokma@contact@johnbokma.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Sep 10 11:01:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 09/09/2026 20:32, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Sep 2026 10:56:32 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    On 09/09/2026 04:16, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Sep 2026 20:44:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 19:18:41 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    "Asahi Linux now officially supports Macs with an M3 series SoC!

    Almost as though some people feel that ApplerCOs OS isnrCOt ... I donrCOt >>>> know ... Unixy enough, or something ... that they feel the need to run >>>> a better OS on ApplerCOs hardware ...

    It is odd. I can see people with older Macs with Intel silicon moving
    to Linux but I'd think Apple fans would stay with macOS. Is macOS
    becoming as enshitified as Windows?

    No longer supported on old Intel Macs as far as I know.

    I should have been more explicit. Moving to Linux on unsupported Intel silicon Apple devices makes sense. I don't see the motivation for moving
    to Linux for Apple silicon machines. The users paid a premium to but the
    M* products presumably because they liked macOS. Why switch to a somewhat buggy Asahi?

    Some people prefer a buggy Asahi Linux over macOS. Don't ask me why,
    though :-D.
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Sep 10 18:48:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 10 Sep 2026 11:01:40 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

    Some people prefer a buggy Asahi Linux over macOS. Don't ask me why,
    though :-D.

    I've never used macOS so I don't have a clue. However buying Apple
    products is a conscious choice and I assume the purchasers like what
    they're buying. Buying a Windows computer from one of the many vendors is
    a choice also but to me it seems the path of least resistance for many
    people.
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