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"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at
taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later date.rCY" <https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop-macbook-neo-competitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>
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On 03/09/2026 19:56, John Bokma wrote:

"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later date.rCY"
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop- macbook-neo-competitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>

The press release with more info: <https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/colorful-ideapad-vibe-series-all-in-one-ai-pcs/>
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John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> wrote:

"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later date.rCY" <https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop-macbook-neo-competitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>

Except that it is NOT Mac competition.

AGAIN, the problem with Windows PCs is NOT the PC hardware. Nor the
colors. The problem is Windows.

Windows 11 is a steaming pile of shit. The updates are an ugly mess.
Windows 11 is the least secure software in the galaxy. Random shit will be automatically downloaded AND installed when you plug in a fucking MONITOR.
The UI is an inconsistent jumble of junk dating from Windows 2000 to
today. The error messages are complete gobbledygook.

Not to mention how creepy Windows 11 has become with notices like rCLWe
noticed that you do this or that at this certain time every dayrCY. WTF is that? Who are rCLWerCY why are rCLWerCY watching me every day?

And rCLAIrCY in Notepad? Who at MS thought THAT was a Good Idea? Windows Recall? Remember THAT fiasco? How the hell did that idea make it into
a Press Release? Because obviously everyone wants a Windows PC with
built-in spyware from the good folks at Microsoft, with their sterling
track record of privacy/security.

The Mac Neo took off because it was a low priced Mac. NOT a low priced
Windows PC. There have ALWAYS been low priced Windows PCs. And now we
know there was pent-up demand for a low priced Mac.

I bought a Neo because Why Not? I did not need it, but it was too good
to pass up. I got a 1 month old, barely used 512GB version for $600. It
runs just fine and way better than any $600 Windows PC will ever run with
8GB RAM running bloated, rusting, listing, barnacle-encrusted Windows 11.

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On 03/09/2026 23:08, Nick Charles wrote:

John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> wrote:

"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at
taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and
Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later >> date.rCY"
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop-macbook-neo-competitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>

Except that it is NOT Mac competition.

Depends on the user. If one just runs web based apps, YouTube, and
Netflix it's competition. Don't get me wrong, I would pick a Neo over an IdeaPad even though I consider Lenovo not a bad brand.
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On Sep 3, 2026, John Bokma wrote
(in article <117ccbp$3u18k$1@dont-email.me>):

"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at
taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later date.rCY" <https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop-macbook-neo-c
ompetitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>

Can it be ordered with Linux, perferably Ubuntu or Mint, factory-installed
and actually able to use ALL the hardware? ItrCOs an IdeaPad, so I suspect that it canrCOt. My Lenovo IdeaPad, now running Ubuntu after a considerable struggle, lacks Linux drivers for certain hardware, notably the fingerprint reader (which I wasnrCOt using anyway) and the camera (trivially replaced by
a USB camera, but annoying), will soon be replaced by a new unit. IrCOd get a MBP rather than a Neo, so I probably wouldnrCOt get a Vibe anyway, but my sister might need a replacement for her ancient Dell, now running Ubuntu.

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On 04/09/2026 15:00, WolfFan wrote:

On Sep 3, 2026, John Bokma wrote
(in article <117ccbp$3u18k$1@dont-email.me>):

"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at
taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and
Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later >> date.rCY"
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop-macbook-neo-c
ompetitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>

Can it be ordered with Linux, perferably Ubuntu or Mint, factory-installed and actually able to use ALL the hardware?

Yeah, that would be nice.

ItrCOs an IdeaPad, so I suspect
that it canrCOt. My Lenovo IdeaPad, now running Ubuntu after a considerable struggle, lacks Linux drivers for certain hardware, notably the fingerprint reader (which I wasnrCOt using anyway) and the camera (trivially replaced by a USB camera, but annoying), will soon be replaced by a new unit. IrCOd get a MBP rather than a Neo, so I probably wouldnrCOt get a Vibe anyway, but my sister might need a replacement for her ancient Dell, now running Ubuntu.

AFAIC Dell sells hardware with Linux on it. She might be better off with
a (more expensive?) Dell laptop or a Neo :-D.
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On 2026-09-03 1:56 p.m., John Bokma wrote:

"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later date.rCY"
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop- macbook-neo-competitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>

If the ARM versions aren't a completely poop show, this could be
interesting. Nevertheless, the public will see this for what it is, a
blatant rip-off, and will treat the computers much like they did the
cheap copies of the iMac in the late 90s. Putting a nice colour on a
piece of poop doesn't make it more appealing.
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On 2026-09-03 5:08 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:

John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> wrote:

"Lenovo is announcing the IdeaPad Vibe, a productivity laptop aimed at
taking on the MacBook Neo with a similar starting price and a wider
range of colors. The Vibe comes in 14- and 15-inch sizes, with AMD and
Qualcomm chip options due out in October and November, respectively.
Intel versions (likely Wildcat Lake) are set to be rCLavailable at a later >> date.rCY"
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/988765/lenovo-ideapad-vibe-laptop-macbook-neo-competitor-ifa-colors-price-specs>

Except that it is NOT Mac competition.

AGAIN, the problem with Windows PCs is NOT the PC hardware. Nor the
colors. The problem is Windows.

Absolutely. One thing all Windows users need to admit is that there is
always a sort of clunkiness to the operating system. No matter how much processing power you have, it never seems to be enough. Anyone migrating
over to the Mac immediately notices how smooth things are within the
first few minutes. It's not even the result of increasing processing
power as much as it is an attention to detail.

Windows 11 is a steaming pile of shit. The updates are an ugly mess. Windows 11 is the least secure software in the galaxy. Random shit will be automatically downloaded AND installed when you plug in a fucking MONITOR.
The UI is an inconsistent jumble of junk dating from Windows 2000 to
today. The error messages are complete gobbledygook.

Agreed. It's still the best operating system on the market if your goal
is to play games, but it is somewhat dreadful for everything else. Once
you take fans out of the equation by migrating to a Mac, it is very
difficult to go back to the PC and hear something that sounds like a hair-dryer turn on because you're doing something more demanding than
checking your emails.

Not to mention how creepy Windows 11 has become with notices like rCLWe noticed that you do this or that at this certain time every dayrCY. WTF is that? Who are rCLWerCY why are rCLWerCY watching me every day?

They need to recoup the money they lost by "giving away" Windows 11 the
way they did (by installing it without anyone's knowledge or
authorization onto Windows 10 machines). Gathering and selling
everyone's data has turned out to be quite profitable.

And rCLAIrCY in Notepad? Who at MS thought THAT was a Good Idea? Windows Recall? Remember THAT fiasco? How the hell did that idea make it into
a Press Release? Because obviously everyone wants a Windows PC with built-in spyware from the good folks at Microsoft, with their sterling
track record of privacy/security.

The problem is that most people have a short memory and already forgot
the majority of what you wrote above. It really is a problem how much Microsoft can get away with as long as they wait for people to get over it.

The Mac Neo took off because it was a low priced Mac. NOT a low priced Windows PC. There have ALWAYS been low priced Windows PCs. And now we know there was pent-up demand for a low priced Mac.

I bought a Neo because Why Not? I did not need it, but it was too good
to pass up. I got a 1 month old, barely used 512GB version for $600. It runs just fine and way better than any $600 Windows PC will ever run with
8GB RAM running bloated, rusting, listing, barnacle-encrusted Windows 11.

I bought a MacBook Air M4 because the deal I got was stellar. It stills
sells for way more than I paid on eBay and Kijiji. Meanwhile, it's
turned into a machine I absolutely love, much like the PowerBook G4 I
had in the early 2000s. I have very fond memories of that thing too.
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