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Hi,

The time is looming it seem. I have no idea when the cut off point is for
us here in Portsmouth (I think we're well down the list) but my provider PlusNet is not going to do voip phone, only broadband.

I want to keep my landline.

To that end, they have offered to move me over to EE at a very reasonable
rate. EE is another provider in that group with BT.

EE apparently will give you a free adapter to put your phone anywhere in
the house, not just plugged in to the router.
I'm hoping that adapter or another will allow me to keep the 4 phones I currently have wired around the house.
My wife next door can do that with virgin so presumably it's possible.

I suspect EE will want to put their router as near as possible to the
front door where their cable will come in. That's a nuisance 'cause my
current router is in the back top bedroom which I use as an office. The
signal currently goes easily all round the premises.

I have a Pi 4 and a RiscPC sans wi-fi so they are cabled to the router.
I'm certainly not putting them by the front door.

If PlusNet let me keep their router I'm hoping I can set it up as an
access point and keep my kit upstairs wired to that.

Observations, experiences etc re any of the above gratefully received.

I'll copy this to the LiveTech list as well to spread the net wider.

Regards,
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In article <5cd7009a73mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Hi,

The time is looming it seem. I have no idea when the cut off point is for
us here in Portsmouth (I think we're well down the list) but my provider PlusNet is not going to do voip phone, only broadband.

I want to keep my landline.[Snippy]

Chris,
Here in Bournemouth, we also don't have a date...

My problem is similar to yours, in that the entry point is at the front of
the house, and our office with all the equipment is at the back of the
house, and to hopefully sort that out...
I've installed a Cat5e cable through the loft (In a conduit) from the
front entry point to the office.

I still have to terminate each end of the cable, but being busy ATM with
other matters, that'll have to wait. :-)

(Fitting plugs on network cables is always a PITA)

This is the latest info I have...

"BT has extended its deadline for shutting down the traditional analogue copper-wire phone network (PSTN) across the UK to January 31, 2027"

Dave
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In article <5cd72c4cb9dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
wrote:

In article <5cd7009a73mec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Hi,

The time is looming it seem. I have no idea when the cut off point is
for us here in Portsmouth (I think we're well down the list) but my provider PlusNet is not going to do voip phone, only broadband.

I want to keep my landline.[Snippy]

Chris, Here in Bournemouth, we also don't have a date...

My problem is similar to yours, in that the entry point is at the front
of the house, and our office with all the equipment is at the back of
the house, and to hopefully sort that out... I've installed a Cat5e
cable through the loft (In a conduit) from the front entry point to the office.

Does the entryoint then have a big router into which you've plugged the
CAT cable?

I still have to terminate each end of the cable, but being busy ATM
with other matters, that'll have to wait. :-)

(Fitting plugs on network cables is always a PITA)

This is the latest info I have...

"BT has extended its deadline for shutting down the traditional
analogue copper-wire phone network (PSTN) across the UK to January 31,
2027"

Dave

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In message <5cd72c4cb9dave@triffid.co.uk>
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd7009a73mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Hi,

The time is looming it seem. I have no idea when the cut off point is for
us here in Portsmouth (I think we're well down the list) but my provider
PlusNet is not going to do voip phone, only broadband.

I want to keep my landline.[Snippy]

Chris,
Here in Bournemouth, we also don't have a date...

My problem is similar to yours, in that the entry point is at the front of the house, and our office with all the equipment is at the back of the
house, and to hopefully sort that out...
I've installed a Cat5e cable through the loft (In a conduit) from the
front entry point to the office.

I still have to terminate each end of the cable, but being busy ATM with other matters, that'll have to wait. :-)

(Fitting plugs on network cables is always a PITA)

This is the latest info I have...

"BT has extended its deadline for shutting down the traditional analogue copper-wire phone network (PSTN) across the UK to January 31, 2027"

Dave

Richard at Orpheus offer some interface options for VOIP which allow you
to connect an existing internal phone network to the Orpheus VOIP service.
He might be prepared to sell an interface to you even if you are not one
of his Internet Customers. They are generic pieces of equipment, not
specific to Orpheus.

Adrian
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In message <5cd700d29dmec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Hi,

The time is looming it seem. I have no idea when the cut off point is for
us here in Portsmouth (I think we're well down the list) but my provider PlusNet is not going to do voip phone, only broadband.

The official end date for PSTN (POTS) Analogue phone lines is now January
31st 2027.

I want to keep my landline.

OK, you have at least 2 options then. Stay with PlusNet and move your
landline phone number to an independent VoIP provider (there are a fair
few of them) - The independent VoIP providers are generally cheaper for running costs and Phone call charges. Note: OFCOM the regulator has rules
in place regarding losing of phone number, they have to be kept available
for a maximum of 30 days of the phone line being terminated so you can
move to a independent provider.

The other option is as you mention below move to an alternative provider
like EE, Zen, TalkTalk, or Sky for example. Which might be simpler, but running costs tend to be higher

To that end, they have offered to move me over to EE at a very reasonable rate. EE is another provider in that group with BT.

EE apparently will give you a free adapter to put your phone anywhere in
the house, not just plugged in to the router.
I'm hoping that adapter or another will allow me to keep the 4 phones I currently have wired around the house.

Yes you can still use your existing phones around the house (wired or DECT phones) In your case it would be Voice Reinjection, there is plenty of information on this on the Internet (make sure the information is
current!)

My wife next door can do that with virgin so presumably it's possible.

Virgin is a completely different system and does not use the Openreach network.

I suspect EE will want to put their router as near as possible to the
front door where their cable will come in. That's a nuisance 'cause my current router is in the back top bedroom which I use as an office. The signal currently goes easily all round the premises.

Are you moving to FTTP/FTTH, i.e. Full Fibre?

If so your installer will hopefully be prepared to install your new Full
Fibre connection nearer where you want it. Mine was moved from the front
to the back of the property. Note: That Full Fibre cable does not like
sharp bends so they tend to do looser cabling round corners.

If you are staying on the old line but with a digital phone service, then
you can put your new router in the same place as your existing one. How is
the router currently connected to the master socket near the front door?

I have a Pi 4 and a RiscPC sans wi-fi so they are cabled to the router.
I'm certainly not putting them by the front door.

If PlusNet let me keep their router I'm hoping I can set it up as an
access point and keep my kit upstairs wired to that.

PlusNet will want their router back for recycling and so you don't get a
bill for it! They only loan you the router nowadays (same goes for nearly
all ISP supplied routers).

Observations, experiences etc re any of the above gratefully received.

You might want to seek out the 2 WROCC Meeting videos on the subject of Broadband and phone lines changes I have done over the past couple of
years, covering much of the above. I might need to do an update aimed more
the phone change part.
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In message <0d6d4bd75c.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5cd700d29dmec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Hi,

The time is looming it seem. I have no idea when the cut off point is for
us here in Portsmouth (I think we're well down the list) but my provider
PlusNet is not going to do voip phone, only broadband.

The official end date for PSTN (POTS) Analogue phone lines is now January 31st 2027.

You may find your service provider will be even more active over the next
6 months as for those using the Openreach network the rental charges that
your provider pays will be increasing significantly, circa up by 80% by
Oct this year. NB that will not mean you pay those additional charges.

https://www.openreach.com/news/openreach-announces-price-changes-to-encourage-digital-adoption-of-newer-more-reliable-and-better-value-technology/

Also don't forget there is help for vunerable users and in particular
those with Telecare products so make sure your provider is aware of any additional help you need.

With c. 2m customer still to go its better to get this done sooner rather
than later.

The other thing to remember is that you don't need to go full fibre,
though you may be encouraged and it may be best too, unless you want to or there is a stop sell on legacy copper products for the exchange you are
off. Think nearly 6-% of the exchanges have a stop sell or an announced
one in place now.

Chris Hughes , WROCC , has also done some good work with some clear explanations in WROCC talks recently so check out their YouTube channel.
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In message <4b5851d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

Sorry typo correction :-)

Think nearly 60%+ of the exchanges have a stop sell or an announced

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On 10/05/2026 23:35, Chris Newman wrote:

I suspect EE will want to put their router as near as possible to the

front door where their cable will come in. That's a nuisance 'cause my current router is in the back top bedroom which I use as an office. The signal currently goes easily all round the premises.

Most Open Reach installations consist of a Fibre ONT box and a separate
router supplied by the ISP (this is the preferred option, rather than
being restricted to the ISPs single box). As mentioned elsewhere you can normally request where the new fibre comes in to your house as long as
there is a socket nearby.

But if they can't do that for whatever reason, you don't need put the
router next to the ONT (they only tell you its needs to be, because
everyone is assumed to be an idiot). The connection between the ONT and
the router is just Ethernet cable, get some CAT6 (CAT 5e will also do)
and put the router where you like.

If PlusNet let me keep their router I'm hoping I can set it up as an
access point and keep my kit upstairs wired to that.

Invariably ISP supplied routers a the cheapest POS that can be bought in
bulk, and often the WiFi speeds wouldn't keep up with the ADSL line
speed, never mind Fibre. Ditch it and get a decedent router from the
likes of ASUS, which will also support WiFi mesh networks.

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In message <c5b951d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <4b5851d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

Sorry typo correction :-)

Think nearly 60%+ of the exchanges have a stop sell or an announced

Another 238 exchanges have just been announced to go on the stop sell
list.
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On 11 May 2026 as I do recall,
Chris Hughes wrote:

PlusNet will want their router back for recycling and so you don't get a bill for it! They only loan you the router nowadays (same goes for nearly all ISP supplied routers).

My ISP sent me a new (unsolicited) router with a letter telling me not
to put the old one in the bin but to send it 'free of charge' to WEEE
Returns at their address for recycling. After packaging it up
and taking it to the Post Office I discovered that 'free' meant
that I had to pay five pounds or so for the privilege as it is not a
Freepost service. So the old router in its box is still sitting in the
corner of the room...
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In article <5cd743ba15mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd72c4cb9dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
wrote:

[Snip]

Does the entrypoint then have a big router into which you've plugged the
CAT cable?

[Snip]

No, the main router is in the office.

"When" the BT kit is installed at the front of the house, the CAT 5e cable
will connect to their kit and also connect to the router in the office at
the back of the house.

Dave

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In article <0d6d4bd75c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

I want to keep my landline.

OK, you have at least 2 options then. Stay with PlusNet and move
your landline phone number to an independent VoIP provider (there
are a fair few of them) - The independent VoIP providers are
generally cheaper for running costs and Phone call charges. Note:
OFCOM the regulator has rules in place regarding losing of phone
number, they have to be kept available for a maximum of 30 days of
the phone line being terminated so you can move to a independent
provider.

I am also with Plusnet, so am having the same quandary.

There is another option, which I am intending to use. I have a
FritzBox 5730AX router - this includes VOIP capability, which can be
used to by plugging in a normal phone cable and/or linking DECT
phones directly. Currently as a test I have a free sipgate phone
available.
I bought the router via ebay, as they are often available from ex Zen customers. They will also wireless mesh with other Fritz routers &
repeaters.

I plan to transfer the phone number to Andrews&Arnold, who provide a
(often recommended) VOIP service for about u1.80/month - the transfer
is u12. We do not use the landline phone a lot, but usage obviously
affects additional call charges.

The other option is as you mention below move to an alternative
provider like EE, Zen, TalkTalk, or Sky for example. Which might
be simpler, but running costs tend to be higher

To that end, they have offered to move me over to EE at a very
reasonable rate. EE is another provider in that group with BT.

EE apparently will give you a free adapter to put your phone
anywhere in the house, not just plugged in to the router. I'm
hoping that adapter or another will allow me to keep the 4 phones
I currently have wired around the house.

Are your extensions plugged into your BT/Openreach Master Socket?

Adaptors (ATA) can be purchased for around u40, and can be plugged
into any Ethernet port (using any ISP), and a normal phone cable
plugged in to it (which may be a DECT wireless system). Beware it
needs power - and a VOIP service! Some modern phone systems also
include the ATA, so just plug into Ethernet.

Yes you can still use your existing phones around the house (wired
or DECT phones) In your case it would be Voice Reinjection, there
is plenty of information on this on the Internet (make sure the
information is current!)

My wife next door can do that with virgin so presumably it's
possible.

Virgin is a completely different system and does not use the
Openreach network.

Any reason why you have two broadband connections?

I suspect EE will want to put their router as near as possible to
the front door where their cable will come in. That's a nuisance
'cause my current router is in the back top bedroom which I use
as an office. The signal currently goes easily all round the
premises.

If you are staying with FTTC, thany new router can just be plugged in
as your exieting one is.
If FTTP, then the fibre ONT connection normally replaces your
existing master socket, but it can depend on the installer. Beware it
needs power!
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In article <5cd75c5829dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd743ba15mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd72c4cb9dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
wrote:

[Snip]

Does the entrypoint then have a big router into which you've plugged
the CAT cable?

[Snip]

No, the main router is in the office.

"When" the BT kit is installed at the front of the house, the CAT 5e
cable will connect to their kit and also connect to the router in the
office at the back of the house.

Dave

Mmnnn!
Just thought of a question myself.

I guess I'll lose two Router sockets at the changeover, one for the Cat5e
input and a second one for the new phone connection.

Is that the case?

Thanks
Dave

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In article <5cd75e3dc2dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

I guess I'll lose two Router sockets at the changeover, one for the
Cat5e input and a second one for the new phone connection.

Depends.
If your router has a dedicated WAN ethernet port, then you will not
lose a LAN ethernet port for the incoming cable. But many routers
have a port that is used for the WAN, or a LAN connection otherwise,
so you would lose an LAN port.

If your router has a working and supported phone socket, then it will
not need a LAN port. However, some routers (notably Plusnet ones)
have a phone socket but it is NOT working as it is not supported by
the firmware! If you are using a separate ATA, or phone system that
incluses one, then you WILL lose an ethernet LAN port.

If you run out of ethernet ports for your LAN, then you can get
switches that are 1 LAN in, 4 (or more) out. I got mine for under u20
a few years ago.
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In message <407056d75c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

On 11 May 2026 as I do recall,
Chris Hughes wrote:

PlusNet will want their router back for recycling and so you don't get a
bill for it! They only loan you the router nowadays (same goes for nearly
all ISP supplied routers).

My ISP sent me a new (unsolicited) router with a letter telling me not
to put the old one in the bin but to send it 'free of charge' to WEEE
Returns at their address for recycling. After packaging it up
and taking it to the Post Office I discovered that 'free' meant
that I had to pay five pounds or so for the privilege as it is not a
Freepost service. So the old router in its box is still sitting in the corner of the room...

PlusNet/BT/EE router returns are free via a return label you can print out yourself and take to your post office (always get a proof of posting and
keep the record for up to 90 days).

Obviously different providers might use different return systems.
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In message <5cd75e3dc2dnews@triffid.co.uk>
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd75c5829dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd743ba15mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd72c4cb9dave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk>
wrote:

[Snip]

Does the entrypoint then have a big router into which you've plugged
the CAT cable?

[Snip]

No, the main router is in the office.

"When" the BT kit is installed at the front of the house, the CAT 5e
cable will connect to their kit and also connect to the router in the
office at the back of the house.

Dave

Mmnnn!
Just thought of a question myself.

I guess I'll lose two Router sockets at the changeover, one for the Cat5e input and a second one for the new phone connection.

Is that the case?

Most ISP supplied routers if you are using their Voice service will have a separate Digital Voice socket (depends on model supplied I suspect). Plus
some have a separate WAN socket for the connection to the ONT.
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In article <5cd75f4273News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd75e3dc2dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

I guess I'll lose two Router sockets at the changeover, one for the
Cat5e input and a second one for the new phone connection.

Depends.
If your router has a dedicated WAN ethernet port, then you will not
lose a LAN ethernet port for the incoming cable. But many routers
have a port that is used for the WAN, or a LAN connection otherwise,
so you would lose an LAN port.

If your router has a working and supported phone socket, then it will
not need a LAN port. However, some routers (notably Plusnet ones)
have a phone socket but it is NOT working as it is not supported by
the firmware! If you are using a separate ATA, or phone system that
incluses one, then you WILL lose an ethernet LAN port.

My router is a Draytek Vigor 2765ac
It has 4 Lan ports and one DSL port that's connected to the house phone
line.

If you run out of ethernet ports for your LAN, then you can get
switches that are 1 LAN in, 4 (or more) out. I got mine for under u20
a few years ago.

Yes, I have a TP-Link 8 port switch box connected to the router that
handles most of the other house networking.

I'll have to wait and see. :-/

Thanks for the info. :-)
Dave

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In article <5cd7740494dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd75f4273News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd75e3dc2dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

I guess I'll lose two Router sockets at the changeover, one for
the Cat5e input and a second one for the new phone connection.

Depends. If your router has a dedicated WAN ethernet port, then
you will not lose a LAN ethernet port for the incoming cable. But
many routers have a port that is used for the WAN, or a LAN
connection otherwise, so you would lose an LAN port.

If your router has a working and supported phone socket, then it
will not need a LAN port. However, some routers (notably Plusnet
ones) have a phone socket but it is NOT working as it is not
supported by the firmware! If you are using a separate ATA, or
phone system that incluses one, then you WILL lose an ethernet
LAN port.

My router is a Draytek Vigor 2765ac It has 4 Lan ports and one DSL
port that's connected to the house phone line.

One of those 'LAN' ports is actually a WAN/LAN port. With FTTP it
will be used as a WAN port for the ethernet connectoin from the ONT,
so iyou will effectively lose one LAN port. Note also that the router
will need some slight reconfiguration which disables the DSL port and
modem.

If you run out of ethernet ports for your LAN, then you can get
switches that are 1 LAN in, 4 (or more) out. I got mine for under
u20 a few years ago.

Yes, I have a TP-Link 8 port switch box connected to the router that
handles most of the other house networking.

If you have one spare ethernet port for the ONT connection, and
possibly another for an ATA connection, you should be ok - perhaps
with a bit of reorganisation.
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On 11 May, Chris Newman wrote in message
<5cd743ba15mec@npost.uk>:

Does the entryoint then have a big router into which you've plugged the
CAT cable?

No, in most cases between your the router and the fibre coming into your
house is another box: the Optical Network Terminator or ONT. This does what
it says on the tin, converting the optical data into electrical data on a
piece of CAT5. The CAT5 then loops into your ISP's router.

There are some "all in one" ONTs and routers, but Openreach seem to prefer
that you have their ONT and your ISP's router.

In most cases the ONT and router will be sat next to each other with a short CAT5 patch lead between them. However, there's nothing to stop you having several (tens of) metres of cable between them if that is better for your setup.
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In article <5cd77de9c9News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5cd7740494dnews@triffid.co.uk>,
Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

My router is a Draytek Vigor 2765ac It has 4 Lan ports and one DSL
port that's connected to the house phone line.

One of those 'LAN' ports is actually a WAN/LAN port. With FTTP it
will be used as a WAN port for the ethernet connectoin from the ONT,
so iyou will effectively lose one LAN port. Note also that the router
will need some slight reconfiguration which disables the DSL port and
modem.

That's good news... Now you've reminded me, I vaguely remember Richard
(Brown) mentioning Port one as being used for that when the changeover
comes, but I'd forgotten. :-(

Reconfiguration... to disable the DSL port and Modem... Ooer!

Back in the days with previous routers I was au-fait with with their
setting so I was able to adjust them as required.

But with this new Router... I'm gonna have to do some swotting. :-)

If you run out of ethernet ports for your LAN, then you can get
switches that are 1 LAN in, 4 (or more) out. I got mine for under
u20 a few years ago.

Yes, I have a TP-Link 8 port switch box connected to the router that handles most of the other house networking.

If you have one spare ethernet port for the ONT connection, and
possibly another for an ATA connection, you should be ok - perhaps
with a bit of reorganisation.

Yes, I can move one of the lesser used computers off the Router port onto
the switch box which recently had a port freed up when a NAS was removed
from the LAN. (It died and will not be replaced).

Thanks again for the info, appreciated.

Dave

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In article <5cd75ce5b5News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

<Big snip>

Are your extensions plugged into your BT/Openreach Master Socket?

Yes

Adaptors (ATA) can be purchased for around u40, and can be plugged
into any Ethernet port (using any ISP), and a normal phone cable
plugged in to it (which may be a DECT wireless system). Beware it
needs power - and a VOIP service! Some modern phone systems also
include the ATA, so just plug into Ethernet.

Virgin is a completely different system and does not use the
Openreach network.

Any reason why you have two broadband connections?

The Virginset up has no broadband. Phone and tele only. The Mem sahib
uses the PlusNet as where I have the router the signal can be obtained in
both houses.

I suspect EE will want to put their router as near as possible to
the front door where their cable will come in. That's a nuisance
'cause my current router is in the back top bedroom which I use
as an office. The signal currently goes easily all round the
premises.

If you are staying with FTTC, thany new router can just be plugged in
as your exieting one is.
If FTTP, then the fibre ONT connection normally replaces your
existing master socket, but it can depend on the installer. Beware it
needs power!

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and keep
everything as it is?
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In message <5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

[snip]

If you are staying with FTTC, thany new router can just be plugged in
as your exieting one is.
If FTTP, then the fibre ONT connection normally replaces your
existing master socket, but it can depend on the installer. Beware it
needs power!

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and keep everything as it is?

Asapreviously mentioned if there is a stop sell on copper services on your exchange then you will need to migrate to full fibre.
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In article <5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Are your extensions plugged into your BT/Openreach Master Socket?

Yes

Then that plug should be able to be inserted into whatever you use to
provide a VOIP service, and your phones should work. That excludes
the Plusnet router, but could be another router (possibly an EE one
or a FritzBox), or a separate ATA plugged into ethernet LAN. In
addition you have to find a Digital Voice provider (eg an ISP like
EE, or an independant one like Andrews and Arnold).

I suspect EE will want to put their router as near as
possible to the front door where their cable will come in.
That's a nuisance 'cause my current router is in the back top
bedroom which I use as an office. The signal currently goes
easily all round the premises.

If you are staying with FTTC, then new router can just be
plugged in as your exieting one is. If FTTP, then the fibre ONT
connection normally replaces your existing master socket, but it
can depend on the installer. Beware it needs power!

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and keep everything as it is?

The change of 'landline' phones to digital, and the change from FTTC
to FTTP are different changes - though often confusingly merged into
one or wrongly described.

VOIP digital phones will work over FTTC and FTTP - just needs
broadband.

So, if like me there is no date for any FTTP as yet, you can plan
your landline change to VOIP regardless of FTTP availability.

However, changing to VOIP will result in some changes, depending on
how you chose to do it for hardware and provider.
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On 11 May 2026 as I do recall,
Chris Hughes wrote:

My ISP sent me a new (unsolicited) router with a letter telling me not
to put the old one in the bin but to send it 'free of charge' to WEEE Returns at their address for recycling. After packaging it up
and taking it to the Post Office I discovered that 'free' meant
that I had to pay five pounds or so for the privilege as it is not a Freepost service. So the old router in its box is still sitting in the corner of the room...

PlusNet/BT/EE router returns are free via a return label you can print out yourself and take to your post office (always get a proof of posting and keep the record for up to 90 days).

Obviously different providers might use different return systems.

This one was TalkTalk.
I had naturally assumed the return address *would* be Freepost, but it
turned out it wasn't!
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In message <d211bfd75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

[snip]

If you are staying with FTTC, thany new router can just be plugged in
as your exieting one is.
If FTTP, then the fibre ONT connection normally replaces your
existing master socket, but it can depend on the installer. Beware it
needs power!

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and keep
everything as it is?

Asapreviously mentioned if there is a stop sell on copper services on your exchange then you will need to migrate to full fibre.

Forgot to also say that there is also now usually a cost implication in
that often ISP's now make full fibre cheaper than a slower FTTC copper
based service as they are keen to get everyone on to fibre.

My father changed from FTTC /PSTN services last month and it went without
a hitch and he is a technophobe!

He also managed to reduce his bill as well get double the speed.

I'm not saying it is always like that but there are some real chancers who call themselves champions of the old and vunerable who a peddling nonsense
and usually pop up in media from time to time.
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In article <d211bfd75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

[snip]

If you are staying with FTTC, thany new router can just be
plugged in as your exieting one is. If FTTP, then the fibre ONT
connection normally replaces your existing master socket, but it
can depend on the installer. Beware it needs power!

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and
keep everything as it is?

As previously mentioned if there is a stop sell on copper services
on your exchange then you will need to migrate to full fibre.

That is probably true because a new contract may have to be issued,
even if you already have FTTC.

It does not apply here (yet) because FTTP is not available.

One place to check what is available is https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com (which works using Iris)
but results may need interpreting!
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In message <10tslpp$14nib$1@druck.eternal-september.org>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

Invariably ISP supplied routers a the cheapest POS that can be bought in bulk, and often the WiFi speeds wouldn't keep up with the ADSL line
speed, never mind Fibre. Ditch it and get a decedent router from the
likes of ASUS, which will also support WiFi mesh networks.

Usually good advice but if a user is staying with BT/EE Digital voice then they need to use the supplied router for the Digital voice part.

This is the same for providers like Sky as well, though some do provide a
less restrictive set up.

Of course you can still piggy back a second router off the service but it
is adding another layer of complexity but that is OK if you are suitably technically knowledgable.

Also if you migrate the phone service to a third party VOIP provider then
you do what you want again subject to any restrictions that service puts
on the way it is set up.
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In message <d211bfd75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

[snip]

If you are staying with FTTC, thany new router can just be plugged in
as your exieting one is.
If FTTP, then the fibre ONT connection normally replaces your
existing master socket, but it can depend on the installer. Beware it
needs power!

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and keep
everything as it is?

As previously mentioned if there is a stop sell on copper services on your exchange then you will need to migrate to full fibre.

Also if you were able to stay on the copper line you would still need to
get Digital Voice/VoIP, as the anologue phone service is turned off at end
of January 2027. As you would be moved to a service called SOGEA which is broadband only.
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As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk, about
all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try and answer
some of the issues/concerns being raised.
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In message <e468cbd75c.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk, about
all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try and answer
some of the issues/concerns being raised.

Good idea as the more added to peoples knowledge the better.

I'd cover such things as:

PSTN to Digital Voice/Voip WLR3/SOGEA
EVA - Emergency Voice Access service
PDPL/SOTAP phone only transition service
VOIP v Proprietary digital voice
Copper to Full Fibre
Cabling and other means like ATA's etc
Telecare consideration
Power backups/Duel phones that have built in SIM's
Using the ISP's router or not
Different network considerations - Virgin/NextFibre, Openreach, CityFibre, Other altnets etc
Local government/ISP engagement events

I'm sure you can add to that as well :-)
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In article <5cd7c18684News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <d211bfd75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

[snip]

If you are staying with FTTC, thany new router can just be
plugged in as your exieting one is. If FTTP, then the fibre ONT
connection normally replaces your existing master socket, but it
can depend on the installer. Beware it needs power!

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and
keep everything as it is?

As previously mentioned if there is a stop sell on copper services
on your exchange then you will need to migrate to full fibre.

That is probably true because a new contract may have to be issued,
even if you already have FTTC.

It does not apply here (yet) because FTTP is not available.

One place to check what is available is https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com (which works using Iris)
but results may need interpreting!

Put my phone number in and got a not avaiable try later error
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In article <e468cbd75c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk,
about all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try and
answer some of the issues/concerns being raised.

You're a star.
--
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In article <bde8c3d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <10tslpp$14nib$1@druck.eternal-september.org> druck
<news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

Big thank you to all who have giventheir knowledge so far. What a can of
worms.
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In message <5cd7d0d9e2mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <bde8c3d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <10tslpp$14nib$1@druck.eternal-september.org> druck
<news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

Big thank you to all who have giventheir knowledge so far. What a can of worms.

It really isn't Chris as I said it was so simple my technophobe Dad
managed to do it.

Hopefully Chris's planned talk will help.

Also look out for any Digital Voice planned engagements in local council buildings like library's /shopping centre's etc.

Though personally I think Chris' talk will give you a totally unbiased
view like his other one's.
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On 12 May, Chris Newman wrote in message
<5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>:

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and keep everything as it is?

That depends if the cabinet stays, I suspect. Around here, they seem to be removing overhead copper as soon as they can because installing the fibre is cheap. On estates with underground cables, however, it does anecdotally
sound as if the FTTC might remain in some guise, presumably because that
saves them trenching everyone's gardens.
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On 12 May, Chris Hughes wrote in message
<3388c6d75c.chris@mytardis>:

Also if you were able to stay on the copper line you would still need to
get Digital Voice/VoIP, as the anologue phone service is turned off at end
of January 2027. As you would be moved to a service called SOGEA which is broadband only.

Hmm. I think there could be a third option for those without broadband.

My father's phone is on a line which does not have broadband on it, and BT
have sent a leaflet which clearly states that they're migrating him to VOIP, that he won't have to do anything, that nothing will change at his end, and that his phone might lose dial tone for half an hour when the switch
happens. The strong implication is that the VOIP box will be going in
somewhere outside the house, either at the exchange or in the local green cabinet.
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On 12 May, Harriet Bazley wrote in message
<7a58bfd75c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>:

This one was TalkTalk. I had naturally assumed the return address *would*
be Freepost, but it turned out it wasn't!

Cynically, I doubt TalkTalk care. They probably don't want your router back, but WEEE legislation says that as supplier they must provide you with a
means to recycle the equipment at end of life. So they do, at your cost, and probably hope that you find an alternative -- such as the WEEE bin at the
local tip -- so that they don't have to pay to handle it when it arrives.
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In message <mpro.texsgn0171qqd033x.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 12 May, Chris Hughes wrote in message
<3388c6d75c.chris@mytardis>:

Also if you were able to stay on the copper line you would still need to
get Digital Voice/VoIP, as the anologue phone service is turned off at end >> of January 2027. As you would be moved to a service called SOGEA which is
broadband only.

Hmm. I think there could be a third option for those without broadband.

My father's phone is on a line which does not have broadband on it, and BT have sent a leaflet which clearly states that they're migrating him to VOIP, that he won't have to do anything, that nothing will change at his end, and that his phone might lose dial tone for half an hour when the switch
happens. The strong implication is that the VOIP box will be going in somewhere outside the house, either at the exchange or in the local green cabinet.

Digital Voice (VoIP) in BT speak will and can be provided for phone only users via 0.5 Mbps broadband service, where Full Fibre or SoGEA is
available

The only other option available as a "Transitional" service called SOTAP
for areas where they still have no Full Fibre and/or SoGEA lines.

This website tries to explain what SoTAP is:

https://www.zen.co.uk/blog/posts/zen-blog/2025/10/06/introducing-sotap-the-simple-way-to-keep-customers-connected-until-fibre-arrives/

There are other sites with similar information
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In message <mpro.texs6v00xmpep033x.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 12 May, Chris Newman wrote in message
<5cd7bc6627mec@npost.uk>:

Does that mean I can elect to stay with FTTC at switch over and keep
everything as it is?

That depends if the cabinet stays, I suspect. Around here, they seem to be removing overhead copper as soon as they can because installing the fibre is cheap. On estates with underground cables, however, it does anecdotally
sound as if the FTTC might remain in some guise, presumably because that saves them trenching everyone's gardens.

To be clear here, there are *TWO* different things happening. One is that
the PSTN service ends on 31st January 2027 for everyone (maybe except for certain organisations who have temporary extension/exemption).

The second one is the move to Full Fibre from ADSL/FTTC/GFast, they are
not necessarily connected that work is not expected to get to 98% of the
UK till around 2030 (it is over 80% I believe at the moment).

Also Virgin Media is also a different situation altogether.
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In message <829ff7d75c.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

The only other option available as a "Transitional" service called SOTAP
for areas where they still have no Full Fibre and/or SoGEA lines.

This website tries to explain what SoTAP is:

https://www.zen.co.uk/blog/posts/zen-blog/2025/10/06/introducing-sotap-the -simple-way-to-keep-customers-connected-until-fibre-arrives/

There are other sites with similar information

As I mentioned before on the Openreach network then for the real laggards
and refusenik's there will be Openreaches EVAc. Emergency Voice Access. service which is being trialled.

Note this will be a very limited voice only product and will be there for cases where perhaps a ISP has placed orders to migrate the service or
can't get enough resource capacity too get the work done in time in an
area.

I have lost count of the people I have spoken too who have been told, by
well meaning but totally misguided people, just refuse or cancel any migrations as they can't force you to digital and hence I think this is
part of Openreache's mitigation for those who refuse to engage.

All change is disruptive and hence the more that can be done to mitigate things the better but there comes a point where things will need to be
forced.

A decade ago they were running out of spares and doing things like
propping up system shelf's with cardboard or anything they could and hence
why they also started closing some smaller locations to get spares to
carry on.

Anyway I look forward to another of your educational talks.
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In article <e250d6d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd7d0d9e2mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <bde8c3d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <10tslpp$14nib$1@druck.eternal-september.org> druck
<news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

Big thank you to all who have giventheir knowledge so far. What a can
of worms.

It really isn't Chris as I said it was so simple my technophobe Dad
managed to do it.

Yes but has he still got 4 phones working round the house and has he got
tech kit that needs ethernet 3 rooms and two stories away from the point
where the signal enters and the router is situated.
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In message <5cd80b0bf3mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <e250d6d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd7d0d9e2mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <bde8c3d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb
<doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <10tslpp$14nib$1@druck.eternal-september.org> druck
<news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

Big thank you to all who have giventheir knowledge so far. What a can
of worms.

It really isn't Chris as I said it was so simple my technophobe Dad
managed to do it.

Yes but has he still got 4 phones working round the house and has he got
tech kit that needs ethernet 3 rooms and two stories away from the point where the signal enters and the router is situated.

Not four but two and he has a WiFi extender set up as well.

It is the principles that are the key element as once you have those clear everything else is simple.

As I said Chris has already done two excellent talks and is going to do another in no doubt his usual clear and educational style.

I'm sure if you catch his next talk on it then things will fall in to
place and after all isn't this why the RISC OS community is still here because we have people willing to offer help and assistance.
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In article <53ed45d85c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd80b0bf3mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <e250d6d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <5cd7d0d9e2mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
wrote:

In article <bde8c3d75c.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>, Doug Webb
<doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

In message <10tslpp$14nib$1@druck.eternal-september.org> druck
<news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

Big thank you to all who have giventheir knowledge so far. What a
can of worms.

It really isn't Chris as I said it was so simple my technophobe Dad
managed to do it.

Yes but has he still got 4 phones working round the house and has he
got tech kit that needs ethernet 3 rooms and two stories away from
the point where the signal enters and the router is situated.

Not four but two and he has a WiFi extender set up as well.

It is the principles that are the key element as once you have those
clear everything else is simple.

As I said Chris has already done two excellent talks and is going to do another in no doubt his usual clear and educational style.

I'm sure if you catch his next talk on it then things will fall in to
place and after all isn't this why the RISC OS community is still here because we have people willing to offer help and assistance.

Brilliant. Ta.
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In article <e468cbd75c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk,
about all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try and
answer some of the issues/concerns being raised.

Do I remember that you also wrote an article for WROCC magazine or
Archive?
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Chris Newman
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In message <5cd851eba3mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <e468cbd75c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk,
about all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try and
answer some of the issues/concerns being raised.

Do I remember that you also wrote an article for WROCC magazine or
Archive?

I wrote an article on how I got my Full Fibre install and how got
Openreach wire up the entire estate ready for full fibre quicker to beat
the competition!
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Chris Hughes
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In article <5cd77de9c9News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

One of those 'LAN' ports is actually a WAN/LAN port. With FTTP it
will be used as a WAN port for the ethernet connectoin from the ONT,
so iyou will effectively lose one LAN port. Note also that the router
will need some slight reconfiguration which disables the DSL port and
modem.

[Snip]

If you have one spare ethernet port for the ONT connection, and
possibly another for an ATA connection, you should be ok - perhaps
with a bit of reorganisation.

A couple of years ago I did lot of looking up stuff about the changeover.
So I'm re-visiting...

The Broad band connection from the ONT to the router is (Here) now quite straightforward, and ready to go (Just have to terminate the cable both
ends.
Obviously I'll need to swot up on the router settings required.


The phone system is another ball game... A nightmare I've just been re-visiting... :-/

And to be honest, I'm just confused by most of what I've read...

So can I please get some advice on what I perceive?

Simplest answer seems to be get a VOIP phone at the changeover time
that'll be connected to a router port?

However, at the moment I have a BT 6500 base station with couple of
handsets which works okay all over the house, and even into my workshop in
the back garden. (It has its own power socket)

Would it still function if I connected it to an ATA that would obviously
be connected to a router port?

I'm assuming, when the changeover happens our existing BT phone account
would become defunct whatever method used, so we would still need a new
VOIP account?

BT or third party for the VOIP account?

Thanks
Dave


Nb: I also read something about, disconnecting the old external line in
the old BT Master socket, and plugging the existing house line into the
ATA?

??
Dave

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In article <ef445dd85c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5cd851eba3mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <e468cbd75c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk,
about all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try
and answer some of the issues/concerns being raised.

Do I remember that you also wrote an article for WROCC magazine or
Archive?

I wrote an article on how I got my Full Fibre install and how got
Openreach wire up the entire estate ready for full fibre quicker to
beat the competition!

Great. Which mag? Volume? Number?
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Chris Newman
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In message <5cd8ed0603mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <ef445dd85c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5cd851eba3mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <e468cbd75c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk,
about all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try
and answer some of the issues/concerns being raised.

Do I remember that you also wrote an article for WROCC magazine or
Archive?

I wrote an article on how I got my Full Fibre install and how got
Openreach wire up the entire estate ready for full fibre quicker to
beat the competition!

Great. Which mag? Volume? Number?

It was in "The WROCC" Feb 24 Vol 41. 11
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Chris Hughes
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In article <209cf1d85c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5cd8ed0603mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <ef445dd85c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5cd851eba3mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <e468cbd75c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

As a result of this discussion, both here and on the Living with
Technology list, I have just decided I will do another update talk,
about all this at the next WROCC meeting on Weds, 3rd June. To try
and answer some of the issues/concerns being raised.

Do I remember that you also wrote an article for WROCC magazine or
Archive?

I wrote an article on how I got my Full Fibre install and how got
Openreach wire up the entire estate ready for full fibre quicker to
beat the competition!

Great. Which mag? Volume? Number?

It was in "The WROCC" Feb 24 Vol 41. 11

Ta.
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Chris Newman
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