• No Internet on reboot

    From Harriet Bazley@harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Sat Mar 7 17:28:36 2026
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    I had a worrying episode this afternoon when my ARMX6 repeatedly failed
    to connect to the router after rebooting - Newshound couldn't resolve
    the newsserver hostname, AntiSpam timed out on its mailboxes, NetSurf
    told me it could only access local files because no domain server was available. Eventually on the third or fourth attempt, after powering
    down the computer and leaving it for a while but without changing
    anything else, I was able to get it to start up correctly.

    Is this something I should be worried about? Is there anything I can
    do about it if so?

    (The whole reason why I was rebooting in the first place was because
    Messenger Pro crashed twice in a row when I was attempting to start a
    reply to an e-mail I'd received a couple of days ago, so I thought some
    other piece of software might have been overwriting the memory
    somewhere - that shouldn't be persistent over a restart, though. And if
    a file in !Boot had got corrupted, that wouldn't have fixed itself
    without my intervention.)
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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Sat Mar 7 18:47:46 2026
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    In message <9404efb55c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    I had a worrying episode this afternoon when my ARMX6 repeatedly failed to connect to the router after rebooting - Newshound couldn't resolve the newsserver hostname, AntiSpam timed out on its mailboxes, NetSurf told me
    it could only access local files because no domain server was available. Eventually on the third or fourth attempt, after powering down the computer and leaving it for a while but without changing anything else, I was able
    to get it to start up correctly.

    Is this something I should be worried about? Is there anything I can do about it if so?

    If you're sure that the failure was to connect to the router, rather
    than connect through the router to the Internet: computers do this occasionally. PCs do it too. I don't think anyone really knows why.

    If it happens more frequently, the first thing to check is the power
    supply: is it really giving 5 volts?

    David
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Sat Mar 7 19:18:38 2026
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    In article <9404efb55c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    I had a worrying episode this afternoon when my ARMX6 repeatedly
    failed to connect to the router after rebooting - Newshound
    couldn't resolve the newsserver hostname, AntiSpam timed out on its mailboxes, NetSurf told me it could only access local files because
    no domain server was available. Eventually on the third or fourth
    attempt, after powering down the computer and leaving it for a
    while but without changing anything else, I was able to get it to
    start up correctly.

    [Snip]

    Don't laugh, but have you checked your cmos battery?

    Bob.

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  • From Harriet Bazley@harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Sun Mar 8 14:55:19 2026
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    On 7 Mar 2026 as I do recall,
    David Higton wrote:

    In message <9404efb55c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    I had a worrying episode this afternoon when my ARMX6 repeatedly failed to connect to the router after rebooting - Newshound couldn't resolve the newsserver hostname, AntiSpam timed out on its mailboxes, NetSurf told me it could only access local files because no domain server was available. Eventually on the third or fourth attempt, after powering down the computer and leaving it for a while but without changing anything else, I was able to get it to start up correctly.

    Is this something I should be worried about? Is there anything I can do about it if so?

    If you're sure that the failure was to connect to the router, rather
    than connect through the router to the Internet: computers do this occasionally. PCs do it too. I don't think anyone really knows why.

    It was definitely failure to connect *to* the router; other devices on
    the same router were fine.
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  • From Harriet Bazley@harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Sun Mar 8 14:55:44 2026
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    On 7 Mar 2026 as I do recall,
    Bob Latham wrote:

    In article <9404efb55c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    I had a worrying episode this afternoon when my ARMX6 repeatedly
    failed to connect to the router after rebooting - Newshound
    couldn't resolve the newsserver hostname, AntiSpam timed out on its mailboxes, NetSurf told me it could only access local files because
    no domain server was available. Eventually on the third or fourth
    attempt, after powering down the computer and leaving it for a
    while but without changing anything else, I was able to get it to
    start up correctly.

    [Snip]

    Don't laugh, but have you checked your cmos battery?

    Does an ARMX6 have a CMOS battery?
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    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    Flying is the art of throwing yourself at the ground... and missing.
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  • From Bob Latham@bob@sick-of-spam.invalid to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Sun Mar 8 16:54:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.acorn.networking

    In article <02dc64b65c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
    On 7 Mar 2026 as I do recall,
    Bob Latham wrote:

    In article <9404efb55c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    I had a worrying episode this afternoon when my ARMX6 repeatedly
    failed to connect to the router after rebooting - Newshound
    couldn't resolve the newsserver hostname, AntiSpam timed out on its mailboxes, NetSurf told me it could only access local files because
    no domain server was available. Eventually on the third or fourth attempt, after powering down the computer and leaving it for a
    while but without changing anything else, I was able to get it to
    start up correctly.

    [Snip]

    Don't laugh, but have you checked your cmos battery?

    Does an ARMX6 have a CMOS battery?

    I would be surprised if it didn't. Every machine I've ever owned that
    had a real time clock had a battery for the cmos and the clock.
    Certainly my mini.m machines do and they have trouble with booting
    and networking when the batteries fail.

    Bob.

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  • From Alan Griffin@ajg@argonet.co.uk to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Sun Mar 8 20:15:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.acorn.networking

    In article <5cb66fb021bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
    Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
    Does an ARMX6 have a CMOS battery?

    I would be surprised if it didn't. Every machine I've ever owned that
    had a real time clock had a battery for the cmos and the clock.
    Certainly my mini.m machines do and they have trouble with booting
    and networking when the batteries fail.


    I found this on my ARMX6

    In article <59af64c5b6p.porcelyn@kpnmail.nl>,
    Paul Porcelijn <p.porcelyn@kpnmail.nl> wrote:
    No need to dissassemble anything for a quick battery check.
    1. Go to Alarm -> Set clock -> Set manually -> Set
    2. Switch off ARMX6 completely (removing all power).
    3. Wait overnight or at least one hour
    4. Now switch ARMX6 on and have a look at date/time. When odd it's
    time to exchange (or at least remove) the CR1220 coincell.

    I suggest there is a vital omission from that list...
    3a. Unplug any Ethernet cable

    Otherwise the NetTime module might re-set the clock as soon as it
    starts and connects to the Ethernet!

    On 23 Jan, Richard Darby <richard@rjdarby.co.uk> wrote:
    This can cause unexpected problems, in my case Pluto deleted all
    it's backups of mail and news downloads and expired a whole lot of
    articles. So any Application which is date or time dependant can be
    affected,

    I agree with that totally. A wrong date/time can cause chaos which
    can take some time and effort to resolve.

    Note that if you have Organizer v2.23 or later, then when it starts
    it validates the current clock time, and gives an error message if if
    thinks the time is suspect.
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  • From Chris Newman@mec@npost.uk to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Mon Mar 9 11:14:15 2026
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    In article <5cb67aa443ajg@argonet.co.uk>,

    <snip>

    I agree with that totally. A wrong date/time can cause chaos which
    can take some time and effort to resolve.

    Note that if you have Organizer v2.23 or later, then when it starts
    it validates the current clock time, and gives an error message if if
    thinks the time is suspect.

    Yes it does.
    At the moment, my FAST machine is a bit flaky about the date and time.
    If I have Organiser set to run at startup and the time is wrong, it gives
    an error message and IIRC 3 alternatives, one of which is something like
    set Time & Date. selecting that opens the Date/Time option in configure.
    If I correct that all is well. If not, all hell can break loose.
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    Chris Newman
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  • From Richard Ashbery@basura@invalid.addr.uk to comp.sys.acorn.networking on Mon Mar 9 16:11:07 2026
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    In article <02dc64b65c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
    On 7 Mar 2026 as I do recall, Bob Latham wrote:

    In article <9404efb55c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>, Harriet
    Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

    I had a worrying episode this afternoon when my ARMX6
    repeatedly failed to connect to the router after rebooting -
    Newshound couldn't resolve the newsserver hostname, AntiSpam
    timed out on its mailboxes, NetSurf told me it could only
    access local files because no domain server was available.
    Eventually on the third or fourth attempt, after powering down
    the computer and leaving it for a while but without changing
    anything else, I was able to get it to start up correctly.

    [Snip]

    Don't laugh, but have you checked your cmos battery?

    Does an ARMX6 have a CMOS battery?

    Yes as someone has already pointed out its a CR1220. I had to change
    mine some while ago - I've forgotten the symtoms. I guess there is
    always a possibility of leakage so would recommend a change. It's
    located on the real-time-clock - a very tiny module attached to the motherboard. Battery is not easy to see and I vaguely remember it was
    a little tricky to replace.

    Richard

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