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In article <ap.663ec65c61.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
ROUGOL <show2025@helpful-demon.co.uk> wrote:

It is now only a month until the RISC OS London Show returns once again!

Saturday 25th October 2025, open 11am - 4pm

Harrow District Masonic Centre
Northwick Circle
Kenton, Harrow
HA3 0EL

I am sorry, but this clashes with "The Great British Model Railway show"
at Gaydon again. Is there any chance you might choose a different date
next year to avoid this clash?

Stuart.
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On Wed, 24 Sep 25 06:45:03 UTC
ROUGOL <show2025@helpful-demon.co.uk> wrote:

It is now only a month until the RISC OS London Show returns once again!

Saturday 25th October 2025, open 11am - 4pm

Harrow District Masonic Centre
Northwick Circle
Kenton, Harrow
HA3 0EL

According to openstreetmap, the postcode is HA3 141
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On 7 Oct 2025 as I do recall,
Folderol wrote:

On Wed, 24 Sep 25 06:45:03 UTC
ROUGOL <show2025@helpful-demon.co.uk> wrote:

It is now only a month until the RISC OS London Show returns once again!

Saturday 25th October 2025, open 11am - 4pm

Harrow District Masonic Centre
Northwick Circle
Kenton, Harrow
HA3 0EL

According to openstreetmap, the postcode is HA3 141

HA3 0EL and HA3 14L draw pins virtually on top of one another according
to RiscOSM (both have OS grid reference TQ171883)
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Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway
Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

Thank you
Stuart
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On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
<5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite Stuart Winsor.
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In message <mpro.t4hvy700mq91t0c1b.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
<5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway
Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite Stuart Winsor.

Also, it is very often the case, that you find a venue with a free
weekend slot, and it stays in that slot year after year. I used to help organise a major event, and it stayed in the same weekend because other
events occur for the other weekends and can't be moved. We used to block
book 2-3 years ahead to make sure we had a venue. Booking the same weekend
can also be cheaper, especially if reserving a 2nd 3 rd year.

Finding venues, and free weekends, seems to have become a nightmare in the last few years.


John
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In article <mpro.t4hvy700mq91t0c1b.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
<5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the
clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend
the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere
else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite Stuart Winsor.

I don't thing I would call the GBMRS a niche event, it attracts a lot of people.

O well, unless the "Wakefield show" moves back to Wakefield next year,
it'll be no shows for me then, and my money will remain in my pocket. Appologies to all the exhibitors.

8-(
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In message <5c6fc153f1Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

In article <mpro.t4hvy700mq91t0c1b.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
<5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway >>> Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the
clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend
the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere
else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS
website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite
Stuart Winsor.

I don't thing I would call the GBMRS a niche event, it attracts a lot of people.

O well, unless the "Wakefield show" moves back to Wakefield next year,
it'll be no shows for me then, and my money will remain in my pocket. Appologies to all the exhibitors.

I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but hopefully
RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a regular basis.
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In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but hopefully
RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a regular basis.

Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for me to drive these days.
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In message <5c703601c5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
on 23 Oct 2025 Stuart wrote:

In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but hopefully
RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a regular basis.

Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for me to drive these days.

Surely if you are interested in the GB Model Railway Show you might be prepared to travel to Warrington by train instead? :-)
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In article <46f26e7f5c.Matthew@sinenomine.co.uk>,
Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5c703601c5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
on 23 Oct 2025 Stuart wrote:

In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but
hopefully RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a
regular basis.

Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for
me to drive these days.

Surely if you are interested in the GB Model Railway Show you might be prepared to travel to Warrington by train instead? :-)

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons
of Petrol!

Train travel to Warrington, leaving Kenilworth at 07.47, arriving
Warrington central 10.46 would cost me u64.60 (putting in details for this comimg Saturday). This would seriously affect the amount I have available
to spend on Riscos hardware/software.
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In message <5c80e70fe9Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons
of Petrol!

Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that rate?
A planet destroyer?

I drive a quite large electric car. 17 miles would use roughly 5 kWh,
which, at my average unit price, would probably cost under u1.

David
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On 24/11/2025 20:55, David Higton wrote:

In message <5c80e70fe9Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons >> of Petrol!

Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that rate?
A planet destroyer?

I'd have been happy with that, my old red sporty contraption would have
used about 0.94 gallons to feed its twin 9000 rpm rotors. But I needed something with more comfort than insane handling these days, so it had
to go and I've now got a far more economical 5.5 litre V8 bi-turbo. As
long as that 17 miles is on the motorway I could use as little as 0.6 of
a gallon, otherwise that might just about get it off the driveway in the morning.

I drive a quite large electric car.

Oh, my commiserations.

17 miles would use roughly 5 kWh,
which, at my average unit price, would probably cost under -u1.

More like -u1.25 on my tariff, but I'm happy paying under a fiver for the exquisite auditory accompaniment to the journey, while gliding on a
cushion of air and leather. And of course you can't turn up at the
British Motoring Museum without paying homage to a classic form of the internal combustion engine by bringing your own hand built example.

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In article <43e0f6805c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7
gallons of Petrol!

Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that
rate? A planet destroyer?

Check you maths, round trip 34 miles!
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On 24/11/2025 22:15, Stuart wrote:

In article <43e0f6805c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7
gallons of Petrol!

Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that
rate? A planet destroyer?

Check you maths, round trip 34 miles!

20 minutes there and back too? Pretty good going.

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In message <5c80e70fe9Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
on 24 Nov 2025 Stuart wrote:

In article <46f26e7f5c.Matthew@sinenomine.co.uk>,
Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5c703601c5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
on 23 Oct 2025 Stuart wrote:

In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but
hopefully RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a
regular basis.

Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for
me to drive these days.

Surely if you are interested in the GB Model Railway Show you might be
prepared to travel to Warrington by train instead? :-)

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons
of Petrol!

That wasn't really my point. I thought that if you like model railways
you might like real railways as well, and therefore might like to avoid driving, but these things do not always follow!

Train travel to Warrington, leaving Kenilworth at 07.47, arriving
Warrington central 10.46 would cost me u64.60 (putting in details for this comimg Saturday). This would seriously affect the amount I have available
to spend on Riscos hardware/software.

You can often get cheaper tickets by booking further ahead. At the moment
you can get tickets for u20 each way Kenilworth - Warrington for early January, for example.

The problem with public transport prices for most people is that having
tied up quite a lot of capital in a car, and paid tax and insurance each
year up front, the marginal cost of driving somewhere is pretty cheap, so
the train fare naturally looks unrealistically expensive. If you do not
have a car, train travel is often still good value considering the
additional spending money you have from not keeping a car.

Your original complaint was that having the London show clashing with the model railway show meant you couldn't get to any RISC OS shows as
Warrington was too far to drive. But from Kenilworth (which I realise is
only your nearest station, not your home address) the distances to
Warrington and Harrow are only about 10 miles different by car, and some
route planners reckon that Warrington is quicker to get to.

So I guess that the London show is also too far for you to drive for a day trip? Unless, of course, you have a handy family member to stay overnight
with in the London area!

Train tickets from Kenilworth to Harrow look like they are slightly more expensive than tickets to Warrington too.

No need to volunteer more information - I'm only looking up stuff to
distract myself from getting on with programming something! But I think
it shows that travel choices are often affected by personal circumstances
in a way that is hard for outsiders to follow. Just as choosing the date
for a show is affected by circumstances that outsiders have little grasp
of.

For what it's worth, there were a few years pre-Covid when the London Show
was on a weekend when our handy family member in the London area was
routinely away running Hallowe'en events in the Peak District, so as exhibitors we either had to do the Durham to London trip in a day, by
train (4.5 hours each way), or shell out for an overnight stay in London, which costs a lot more than Warrington!
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In article <10g2s9b$2uhu7$1@druck.eternal-september.org>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

On 24/11/2025 22:15, Stuart wrote:

In article <43e0f6805c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7
gallons of Petrol!

Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that
rate? A planet destroyer?

Check you maths, round trip 34 miles!

20 minutes there and back too? Pretty good going.

No Druck, stop acting like a Dumbo, which I know you aren't, about 20mins
to get there down the A46/M40.
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On 24/12/2025 09:45, Stuart wrote:

In article <10g2s9b$2uhu7$1@druck.eternal-september.org>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:

On 24/11/2025 22:15, Stuart wrote:

In article <43e0f6805c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7
gallons of Petrol!

Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that
rate? A planet destroyer?

Check you maths, round trip 34 miles!

20 minutes there and back too? Pretty good going.

No Druck, stop acting like a Dumbo, which I know you aren't, about 20mins
to get there down the A46/M40.

Well don't give time for one way and fuel for both legs!

Oh, and have a merry Christmas.

---druck
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