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I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

I have had issues recently with port number and I have changed them and
email can be sent again but this time it doesn't matter what port number
I use email still stays in the queue.

The port numbers I have been using are 110,995,143,993,465 all to no
avail.

I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)

Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)

Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)

At the moment my setup is: SMTP mail.btinternet.com, Port 995, SSL
usually 465

Assuming it is actually a Port number problem as it usually is?

My question is what is the current port number please to use with
Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

Many thanks for any information gratefully received.

Stephen





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In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Snip]

My question is what is the current port number please to use with
Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

[Snip]

It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
Hermes setup to be...

SMTP mail server - mail.btinternet.com
Port - 25
I need to log in to this account - Checkbox ticked
User name and Password - Completed with my details

HTH
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Brian Jordan
brian.jordan9@btinternet.com
RISC OS 5.30 (27-Apr-24) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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In message <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

[Posted and mailed]

I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

I have had issues recently with port number and I have changed them and
email can be sent again but this time it doesn't matter what port number
I use email still stays in the queue.

I think BT had a major email outage the other day which might have
affected you.

The port numbers I have been using are 110,995,143,993,465 all to no
avail.

All the details are here from BTinternet:

https://www.bt.com/help/email/manage-email-account/manual-settings/what-are-the-settings-for-outgoing-and-incoming-bt-email-servers

Thats all one line.

I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)

You might want to update to current version v9.01 I believe it is on
offer at the moment from R-Comp.

Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)

Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)

Ensure you are using at least version 1.06 (27 May 2023) mbedTLS 2.28.5 of
the AcornSSL module, be careful to check the mbedTLS version information
of the module as that is what tends to be undated

At the moment my setup is: SMTP mail.btinternet.com, Port 995, SSL
usually 465

It should be 465 check your you have SSL enabled, and make sure the APOP
is unticked by the looks of the above link.

Assuming it is actually a Port number problem as it usually is?

My question is what is the current port number please to use with
Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

That is wrong! it either has to be 993 for IMAP or 465 for SMTP. port 995
is *only* for POP3.

Good luck
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In article <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
Hermes setup to be...

Where do you find this info in Hermes?
Alan

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In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:

I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

I had this recently, and I have discovered the reason.

The e-mail I sent said RSVP

I discovered in Hermes "Filters" that it would not accept a message in capitals. There is a list of "Exceptions" such as RISC OS but it didn't
have RSVP. I typed in RSVP but it still didn't send.

However, after re-booting the computer, I tried again, and it sent the
e-mail.

Alan

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In message <5bf1143436ajg@argonet.co.uk>
Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
Hermes setup to be...

Where do you find this info in Hermes?

If you want the Incoming server details then Choices from icon bar menu of netfetch the Emailboxes for incoming settings.

If you accessing Hermes then menu over the icon bar icon then mailaccounts allows you to choose between incoming and outgoing.
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In message <8abc1af15b.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

[Posted and mailed]

I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

[snip]

All the details are here from BTinternet:

https://www.bt.com/help/email/manage-email-account/manual-settings/what-are-the-settings-for-outgoing-and-incoming-bt-email-servers

Thats all one line.

I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)

You might want to update to current version v9.01 I believe it is on
offer at the moment from R-Comp.

Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)

Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)

Ensure you are using at least version 1.06 (27 May 2023) mbedTLS 2.28.5 of >the AcornSSL module, be careful to check the mbedTLS version information
of the module as that is what tends to be undated.

Mine is the old version of AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3
perhaps it is this that is the problem, I have tried all the above configuration posted on here to no avail, the error message in
Hermes transfer status shows "Connection lost".

Regards,

Steve
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In message <5bf11a0d3aajg@argonet.co.uk>
Alan Griffin <ajg@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:

I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

I had this recently, and I have discovered the reason.

The e-mail I sent said RSVP

I discovered in Hermes "Filters" that it would not accept a message in >capitals. There is a list of "Exceptions" such as RISC OS but it didn't
have RSVP. I typed in RSVP but it still didn't send.

However, after re-booting the computer, I tried again, and it sent the >e-mail.

Alan

I have tried all that has been suggested and even a reboot has not help
me send email.

Regards,

Steve
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In message <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Snip]

My question is what is the current port number please to use with
Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

[Snip]

It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my
Hermes setup to be...

SMTP mail server - mail.btinternet.com
Port - 25
I need to log in to this account - Checkbox ticked
User name and Password - Completed with my details

HTH

I have tried the above configuration thanks, but still no joy.
Maybe it is because the AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3 is
out of date on my machine, Where can I find the latest update please?

Steve
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In message <02d47df15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

In message <5bf1110de5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

In article <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Snip]

My question is what is the current port number please to use with
Btinternet I am now on Port 995?

[Snip]

It has been a long time since I set mine up but a quick check shows my >>Hermes setup to be...

SMTP mail server - mail.btinternet.com
Port - 25
I need to log in to this account - Checkbox ticked
User name and Password - Completed with my details

HTH

I have tried the above configuration thanks, but still no joy.
Maybe it is because the AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3 is
out of date on my machine, Where can I find the latest update please?

Steve

In Harddisc4 ( !System.350.modules.network.url) https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common
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In message <54d67df15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

In message <8abc1af15b.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <03c80af15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

[Posted and mailed]

I don't use my BTinternet email addresses very often for sending email
mainly just incoming, but lately when I have tried to send an email it
just sits in the Messenger outgoing queue?

[snip]

All the details are here from BTinternet:

https://www.bt.com/help/email/manage-email-account/manual-settings/what-ar >>e-the-settings-for-outgoing-and-incoming-bt-email-servers

Thats all one line.

I am using Messenger Pro 8.05wpb1 (23-Aug-2021)

You might want to update to current version v9.01 I believe it is on
offer at the moment from R-Comp.

Hermes 5.56.01 (21 Oct 2022)

Netfetch 5.56 (1st May, 2024)

Ensure you are using at least version 1.06 (27 May 2023) mbedTLS 2.28.5 of >>the AcornSSL module, be careful to check the mbedTLS version information
of the module as that is what tends to be undated.

Mine is the old version of AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3
perhaps it is this that is the problem, I have tried all the above configuration posted on here to no avail, the error message in
Hermes transfer status shows "Connection lost".

I would do the following steps.

1) get the latest AcornSSL module and install it (keep a backup of the old module just in case). Once installed reboot your computer.

2) change your settings in Hermes/Netfetch to the *official* ports as per
the link I gave above, those are the only settings that will work.

3) Before trying to send any emails, go to your account in NetFetch/Hermes
and change the mail log levels to I suggest to "detailed" as this will
record the full exchange of the hand-shake between you and the server and might give a better clue as to actual error behind the scenes.

Let us know what happens.
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In article <d6a124f15b.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

If you want the Incoming server details then Choices from icon bar
menu of netfetch the Emailboxes for incoming settings.

If you accessing Hermes then menu over the icon bar icon then
mailaccounts allows you to choose between incoming and outgoing.

Where do you find info about ports, and how do you change them?
How do you know what port to use?
Alan

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In message <faa587f15b.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>
Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:


[snip]

I have tried the above configuration thanks, but still no joy.
Maybe it is because the AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3 is
out of date on my machine, Where can I find the latest update please?

Steve

In Harddisc4 ( !System.350.modules.network.url) >https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common

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In message <f6f48df15b.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:


[snip]

Mine is the old version of AcornSSL 1.05 (23 Apr 2020) mbedTLS 2.16.3
perhaps it is this that is the problem, I have tried all the above
configuration posted on here to no avail, the error message in
Hermes transfer status shows "Connection lost".

I would do the following steps.

1) get the latest AcornSSL module and install it (keep a backup of the old >module just in case). Once installed reboot your computer.

2) change your settings in Hermes/Netfetch to the *official* ports as per
the link I gave above, those are the only settings that will work.

3) Before trying to send any emails, go to your account in NetFetch/Hermes >and change the mail log levels to I suggest to "detailed" as this will
record the full exchange of the hand-shake between you and the server and >might give a better clue as to actual error behind the scenes.

Let us know what happens.

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Eureka! I can now send email again, I think it was the SSL module.
Set up as suggested so many many thanks for the time you all have
offered to help.
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In message <584cbbf15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

[snip]

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Eureka! I can now send email again, I think it was the SSL module.
Set up as suggested so many many thanks for the time you all have
offered to help.

Now all you need to do is to place your replies above the sig seperator
:-)
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In message <mpro.sry1gg0061axt00sd.fred@ypical.demon.invalid>
Frederick <fred@ypical.demon.invalid> wrote:

In message <584cbbf15b.Steve@btinternet.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

[snip]

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Eureka! I can now send email again, I think it was the SSL module.
Set up as suggested so many many thanks for the time you all have
offered to help.

Now all you need to do is to place your replies above the sig seperator
:-)

Yes I had a problem with that too but now sorted.

cheers
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