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VRPC-DL running RISC OS 6.20 on Win 10 PC.

Can someone please advise, because in my old age I've forgotten
something... :-(

When I click on the HardDisc4 icon on the icon bar, the filer window opens randomly positioned on the desktop.

I'm sure there was a setting somewhere that would specify where the filer window opened when it was clicked...

Assuming my old memory is not totally shot, could someone please remind me where that config hangs out? If it does? :-/

Thanks
Dave

ATM. I have an Obey file I constructed many years ago, on the Pinboard containing the following:

"Filer_OpenDir HostFS::HardDisc4.$ 10 2000 712 900 -sn -si" (Sans quotes).

Which, when double clicked opens the HD filer window specifically where I
want it.
Close My position opened filer window.

Then if I click the HD icon on the icon bar, it opens the filer window in
other places.

Maybe that's the default action and I've just forgotten. :-)

D.
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Always opens on the same row here just moves along the screen after
every close and re-open. After 11 closes, then starts again original
position

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In article <5bd2654a0adave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave
<dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

ATM. I have an Obey file I constructed many years ago, on
the Pinboard containing the following:

"Filer_OpenDir HostFS::HardDisc4.$ 10 2000 712 900 -sn
-si" (Sans quotes).

Which, when double clicked opens the HD filer window
specifically where I want it..

Steve Fryatt's GetFiler will create this for you. Clear the
desktop and open HardDisc4 where you want it, then click
Select on the icon bar icon and name and save the file to
wherever you want.

You can find it about halfway down this page:

https://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/risc-os/utils

John
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In article <b74b9dc28b3de61398fb732c33573422@www.novabbs.org>,
phorefaux <phorefaux@gmail.com> wrote:

Always opens on the same row here just moves along the screen after
every close and re-open. After 11 closes, then starts again original position

Supposedly that depends on the screen resolution. It takes 35 close-and-re-opens here, on a 2560 resolution horizontally. It seems as if
it shifts 73 pixels every time, also because it doesn't return *exactly* to
its original position. Is your screen 800x600 by any chance?

Paul

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In message <5bd353ae5aPaul@sprie.nl>
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

In article <b74b9dc28b3de61398fb732c33573422@www.novabbs.org>,
phorefaux <phorefaux@gmail.com> wrote:

Always opens on the same row here just moves along the screen after
every close and re-open. After 11 closes, then starts again original
position

Supposedly that depends on the screen resolution. It takes 35 close-and-re-opens here, on a 2560 resolution horizontally. It seems as
if
it shifts 73 pixels every time, also because it doesn't return *exactly*
to
its original position. Is your screen 800x600 by any chance?

Paul

Running at 1024 x 768 here.


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In article <5bd353ae5aPaul@sprie.nl>,
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

In article <b74b9dc28b3de61398fb732c33573422@www.novabbs.org>,
phorefaux <phorefaux@gmail.com> wrote:

Always opens on the same row here just moves along the screen after
every close and re-open. After 11 closes, then starts again original position

Supposedly that depends on the screen resolution. It takes 35 close-and-re-opens here, on a 2560 resolution horizontally. It seems as
if it shifts 73 pixels every time, also because it doesn't return
*exactly* to its original position. Is your screen 800x600 by any chance?

Paul

My screen is 1920 x 1080 C16M

It's that click on the HD4 icon on the icon bar that's the problem.

It never appears where I want it, and its offset marches rightwards across
the screen every time it's opened.

Other RISC OS windows also have uncontrollable offsets, Draw for example offsets down the screen, as does Pluto and many others.

I'm 'guessing' this is hard coded into the OS, so no chance of control?

So it appears to be a case of, don't click the HD4 Filer icon, only use my
Obey file to open it. :-)

Dave
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In article <5bd33a1c56newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk>,
John <newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5bd2654a0adave@triffid.co.uk>, Dave
<dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

ATM. I have an Obey file I constructed many years ago, on
the Pinboard containing the following:

"Filer_OpenDir HostFS::HardDisc4.$ 10 2000 712 900 -sn
-si" (Sans quotes).

Which, when double clicked opens the HD filer window
specifically where I want it..

Steve Fryatt's GetFiler will create this for you. Clear the
desktop and open HardDisc4 where you want it, then click
Select on the icon bar icon and name and save the file to
wherever you want.

You can find it about halfway down this page:

https://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/risc-os/utils

John

Good thought John, but I did note at the top of my original posting I'm
using RISC OS 6.20, and GetFiler doesn't do the business with that OS.

Thanks
Dave

As also noted in my original post, I already have an Obey file with my set position.

D.
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On 22 Dec, Dave wrote in message
<5bd368eae4dave@triffid.co.uk>:

It's that click on the HD4 icon on the icon bar that's the problem.

It never appears where I want it, and its offset marches rightwards across the screen every time it's opened.

Other RISC OS windows also have uncontrollable offsets, Draw for example offsets down the screen, as does Pluto and many others.

It's so that new windows don't completely obscure the ones already on
screen. You can still see part of the older ones, and at least access the
back icon (if not the title bar) to bring them forward.

I'm 'guessing' this is hard coded into the OS, so no chance of control?

I'm fairly sure that it's implemented on an application-by-application
basis.
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In article <mpro.sox6dp057fpjt086u.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 22 Dec, Dave wrote in message
<5bd368eae4dave@triffid.co.uk>:

It's that click on the HD4 icon on the icon bar that's the problem.

It never appears where I want it, and its offset marches rightwards
across the screen every time it's opened.

Other RISC OS windows also have uncontrollable offsets, Draw for
example offsets down the screen, as does Pluto and many others.

It's so that new windows don't completely obscure the ones already on
screen. You can still see part of the older ones, and at least access
the back icon (if not the title bar) to bring them forward.

I'm 'guessing' this is hard coded into the OS, so no chance of control?

I'm fairly sure that it's implemented on an application-by-application
basis.

You are probably right as Ovpro doesn't Offset multiple window openings.

Mnnn! The app business and Offset is really an aside/distraction to my
specific annoyance, the HD4 Icon bar icon.

When I click on the HD4 icon bar icon, the damn Filer window displays
where ever it wants, and not where I want it to display.

Initially, the top of the Filer window is 115mm up from the bottom of the
RISC OS window, and 5mm in from the left side of the RISC OS window.

Every time it's opened it offsets by 15mm, but as I usually only open it
once when needed, I don't care about that.

With the 1920x1080 Res I'm using, that's way down the screen.

The specific of my quest is...

Where in RISC OS is the configuration that specifies where that HD4 Filer window opens where it does, by default?

Thanks :-)
Dave

Aside from knowing the answer to the above question, my Obey file on the Pinboard opens exactly where I want, whenever I want, and always in the
same place. :-)
D.
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On 23 Dec, Dave wrote in message
<5bd3a64929dave@triffid.co.uk>:

The specific of my quest is...

Where in RISC OS is the configuration that specifies where that HD4 Filer window opens where it does, by default?

Assuming that HostFS just calls *Filer_OpenDir (which you would need to ask Virtual Acorn), then I would start by looking in the source code for the
Filer module.
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In article <mpro.soxyig00ig1ih03bm.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 23 Dec, Dave wrote in message
<5bd3a64929dave@triffid.co.uk>:

The specific of my quest is...

Where in RISC OS is the configuration that specifies where that HD4
Filer window opens where it does, by default?

Assuming that HostFS just calls *Filer_OpenDir (which you would need to
ask Virtual Acorn), then I would start by looking in the source code for
the Filer module.

Way beyond my capabilities, but thanks for the thought Steve. :-)

Best wishes for Christmas and the new year.

Dave
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In article <mpro.soxyig00ig1ih03bm.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 23 Dec, Dave wrote in message
<5bd3a64929dave@triffid.co.uk>:

The specific of my quest is...
Where in RISC OS is the configuration that specifies where that HD4
Filer window opens where it does, by default?

Assuming that HostFS just calls *Filer_OpenDir (which you would need to
ask Virtual Acorn), then I would start by looking in the source code for
the Filer module.

Way beyond my capabilities, but thanks for the thought Steve. :-)

Best wishes for Christmas and the new year.

Dave
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