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I have recently been seeing random messages complaining that PythonUser
isn't present on my machine. Some time ago I investigated Python but gave
up and removed all references (apparently not).
The most recent of these messages came when I tried to save my choices
for the new MiniTime app.

"MiniTime
Filing system or path PythonUser:
not present (code 1410)"

Clearly this all stems from operator error here and I'd be very grateful
if someone could suggest where the problem might be other than between my
ears.
B
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Brian Jordan
brian.jordan9@btinternet.com
RISC OS 5.30 (27-Apr-24) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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In article <5b662288f5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

I have recently been seeing random messages complaining that PythonUser
isn't present on my machine. Some time ago I investigated Python but
gave up and removed all references (apparently not). The most recent of
these messages came when I tried to save my choices for the new
MiniTime app.

"MiniTime Filing system or path PythonUser: not present (code 1410)"

Clearly this all stems from operator error here and I'd be very
grateful if someone could suggest where the problem might be other than between my ears.

The plot thickens...

A short while ago I typed *shoe rather than *show into the command line
with this result

*shoe
Filing system or path PythonUser: not present

Is MiniTime trying to use a * command that is absent from my machine? And
what has PythonUser got to do with it anyway?
B
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Brian Jordan
brian.jordan9@btinternet.com
RISC OS 5.30 (27-Apr-24) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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In message <5b6715b218brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

In article <5b662288f5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

I have recently been seeing random messages complaining that PythonUser
isn't present on my machine. Some time ago I investigated Python but
gave up and removed all references (apparently not). The most recent of
these messages came when I tried to save my choices for the new
MiniTime app.

"MiniTime Filing system or path PythonUser: not present (code 1410)"

Clearly this all stems from operator error here and I'd be very
grateful if someone could suggest where the problem might be other than
between my ears.

The plot thickens...

A short while ago I typed *shoe rather than *show into the command line
with this result

*shoe
Filing system or path PythonUser: not present

If you are not using Python and don't want it.

do a *show python*

This will show all the paths to where the various bits of Python are
located. My !Pythonuser is located at:

HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Choices.Boot.PreDesk.!PythonUser
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Chris Hughes
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In article <61ee16675b.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5b6715b218brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

In article <5b662288f5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

I have recently been seeing random messages complaining that
PythonUser isn't present on my machine. Some time ago I
investigated Python but gave up and removed all references
(apparently not). The most recent of these messages came when I
tried to save my choices for the new MiniTime app.

"MiniTime Filing system or path PythonUser: not present (code
1410)"

Clearly this all stems from operator error here and I'd be very
grateful if someone could suggest where the problem might be
other than between my ears.

The plot thickens...

A short while ago I typed *shoe rather than *show into the
command line with this result

*shoe
Filing system or path PythonUser: not present

If you are not using Python and don't want it.

do a *show python*

This will show all the paths to where the various bits of Python are > located. My !Pythonuser is located at:

HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Choices.Boot.PreDesk.!PythonUser

So is mine ... but only PythonUser$Dir is set in !Boot, not
PythonUser$Path.
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Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.
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On 26 May, Brian Jordan wrote in message
<5b6715b218brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>:

In article <5b662288f5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

Some time ago I investigated Python but gave up and removed all
references (apparently not). The most recent of these messages came when
I tried to save my choices for the new MiniTime app.

"MiniTime Filing system or path PythonUser: not present (code 1410)"

A short while ago I typed *shoe rather than *show into the command line
with this result

*shoe Filing system or path PythonUser: not present

The most likely explanation is that something which you installed for Python and then didn't uninstall is adding to Run$Path using the unset
PythonUser$Path variable (ie. the variable behind PythonUser: as a filename prefix). Using

*Show Run$Path

should reveal this. If that doesn't reveal anything, then the problem as reported with MiniTime would make me investigate

*Show Choices$Path
*Show Choices$Write

as well.

Once you know what is being added to which variable, you can then start to search for where it is being added.
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Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
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In article <mpro.se3i6m00h97n10dw4.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

On 26 May, Brian Jordan wrote in message
<5b6715b218brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>:

In article <5b662288f5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

Some time ago I investigated Python but gave up and removed all references (apparently not). The most recent of these messages
came when I tried to save my choices for the new MiniTime app.

"MiniTime Filing system or path PythonUser: not present (code
1410)"

A short while ago I typed *shoe rather than *show into the
command line with this result

*shoe Filing system or path PythonUser: not present

The most likely explanation is that something which you installed
for Python and then didn't uninstall is adding to Run$Path using
the unset PythonUser$Path variable (ie. the variable behind
PythonUser: as a filename prefix). Using

*Show Run$Path

should reveal this. If that doesn't reveal anything, then the
problem as reported with MiniTime would make me investigate

*Show Choices$Path
*Show Choices$Write

as well.

Once you know what is being added to which variable, you can then
start to search for where it is being added.

Nothing in my boot sequence sets or unsets PythonUser$Path.
PythonUser3$Dir is set, but not Path.

This is as in the Python-Core_0/0/2-1_a zip file as downloaded &
installed by Packman.

Note the !!pythonUser.!Boot also calls !PathAdd which adds PythonUser:Scripts.,PythonSite:Scripts.,Python3:Scripts.
to Run$Path if not already there ... even though PythonUser: path has
NOT been set!

What should be setting PythonUser$Path ?
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Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.
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In article <5b6715b218brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

In article <5b662288f5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>,
Brian Jordan <brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Snip]

The plot thickens...

A short while ago I typed *shoe rather than *show into the command line
with this result

*shoe
Filing system or path PythonUser: not present

Is MiniTime trying to use a * command that is absent from my machine?
And what has PythonUser got to do with it anyway?

Thanks to all who have replied to this. I have resolved the problem by
removing !PythonUser from this machine and then reinstalling it using
!Packman. It would seem I managed to change something within !PythonUser
when I was investigating programming with Python.
B
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Brian Jordan
brian.jordan9@btinternet.com
RISC OS 5.30 (27-Apr-24) on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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In article <61ee16675b.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5b6715b218brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> Brian Jordan
<brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

In article <5b662288f5brian.jordan9@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan
<brian.jordan9@btinternet.com> wrote:

I have recently been seeing random messages complaining that
PythonUser isn't present on my machine. Some time ago I investigated
Python but gave up and removed all references (apparently not). The
most recent of these messages came when I tried to save my choices
for the new MiniTime app.

"MiniTime Filing system or path PythonUser: not present (code 1410)"

Clearly this all stems from operator error here and I'd be very
grateful if someone could suggest where the problem might be other
than between my ears.

The plot thickens...

A short while ago I typed *shoe rather than *show into the command
line with this result

*shoe Filing system or path PythonUser: not present

If you are not using Python and don't want it.

do a *show python*

This will show all the paths to where the various bits of Python are
located. My !Pythonuser is located at:

HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Choices.Boot.PreDesk.!PythonUser

Did that and got...



PythonSite$Dir : ADFS::FAST.$.!BOOT.Resources.!PythonSite
PythonSite$Path : ADFS::FAST.$.!BOOT.Resources.!PythonSite.
PythonUser$Dir : ADFS::FAST.$.!BOOT.Choices.Boot.PreDesk.!PythonUser

I'm not an active Python user but I suppose something I downloaded or
came with the FAST needed it.
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Chris
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