In article <59829774e6Spambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article
<be8f938259.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick
Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road speed
signage or speedometers to KPH.
Every car I have had since 1979 at least has had an anologue
speedometer in both miles and km per hour. An essential
piece of equipment for those of us who drive in other
countries.
Must be much harder for those from elsewhere whose
speedometers are in km/hr only.
And I hope it stays that way!
Why? What is the advantage to using units of measurement
that 90% of the world do not understand?
You keep right on TFL escalators and stairs so that 90% of the population
can hold the handrail with their dominant hand.
In message <59830332e4tim@invalid.org.uk>
on 29 Oct 2021 Tim Hill wrote:
You keep right on TFL escalators and stairs so that 90% of the
population can hold the handrail with their dominant hand.
If the escalator had been invented ten years ago, we'd be keeping left
so that 90% of the population could hold the handrail while using their
phone with their dominant hand.
In message <59830332e4tim@invalid.org.uk>
on 29 Oct 2021 Tim Hill wrote:
You keep right on TFL escalators and stairs so that 90% of the
population can hold the handrail with their dominant hand.
If the escalator had been invented ten years ago, we'd be keeping left
so that 90% of the population could hold the handrail while using their
phone with their dominant hand.
In article <59828a59b7dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <sldm32$eqt$2@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk>
wrote:
On 27/10/2021 22:51, Chris Newman wrote:
There are still those about who refer to the metric system as Napoleon's Revenge although it was devised before he came on the
scene.
That and driving on the wrong side of the road.
Luckily the sensible parts of the world still pass sword arm to sword arm.
But not on London Transport. ;-)
You keep right on TFL escalators and stairs so that 90% of the population
can hold the handrail with their dominant hand.
In article <59830332e4tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
wrote:
In article <59828a59b7dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <sldm32$eqt$2@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk>
wrote:
On 27/10/2021 22:51, Chris Newman wrote:
There are still those about who refer to the metric system as Napoleon's Revenge although it was devised before he came on the scene.
That and driving on the wrong side of the road.
Luckily the sensible parts of the world still pass sword arm to
sword arm.
But not on London Transport. ;-)
You keep right on TFL escalators and stairs so that 90% of the
population can hold the handrail with their dominant hand.
I've heard this one before. But in your home, most staircases have only a rail on one side. Escalators have them both sides. Stairs on stations etc either one way, or a rail in the middle. And how does the city gent
carrying a briefcase decide? ;-)
Why? What is the advantage to using units of measurement
that 90% of the world do not understand?
Intriguingly, given the recent Brexiteer trumpetings about
trade deals with New Zealand and Australia (deals only
marginally worse than those done with the EU), both these
nations use solely metric road measurements and displays.
Motor vehicles sold new in Australia must have K/ph
speedometer markings - not sure of the situation in NZ but
I imagine its the same. Both countries continue driving on
the left though that can be a bit of a variable matter in
outback areas in Australia,
Same here in parts of Cumbria. As so many of the roads are barely wide
enough for one car, some of the locals seem to think that when they get
onto a main road with a white line down the middle, they are supposed
to straddle that line with their car.
:-)
In article <59840292b7dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <59830332e4tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
<tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
You keep right on TFL escalators and stairs so that 90% of the
population can hold the handrail with their dominant hand.
I've heard this one before. But in your home, most staircases have
only a rail on one side. Escalators have them both sides. Stairs on stations etc either one way, or a rail in the middle. And how does
the city gent carrying a briefcase decide? ;-)
you don't need to be a city gent to carry a briefcase. Mine held
lunchtime sandwiches and a library book to read on the train.
One oddity - I have no problem with measuring (route) distances in Km
rather than miles, but I still think in terms of miles per hour for
speeds. Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road speed signage
or speedometers to KPH.
In message <be8f938259.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk> Nick Roberts
<tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
One oddity - I have no problem with measuring (route) distances in Km rather than miles, but I still think in terms of miles per hour for
speeds. Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road speed signage
or speedometers to KPH.
The only problem with kilometres is the way the word is usually
pronounced now-a-days. I can understand Americans saying killom-eter,
but a kilo-metre is not an odometer, a tachometer, speedometer,
milometer, nor any other instrument for measuring things.
As an aside the allotment plots in Gaydon village are measured in
fractions of an acre using rods.
In article <f959db8a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>, John Rickman <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <be8f938259.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk> Nick Roberts
<tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
One oddity - I have no problem with measuring (route) distances in Km
rather than miles, but I still think in terms of miles per hour for
speeds. Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road speed signage
or speedometers to KPH.
The only problem with kilometres is the way the word is usually
pronounced now-a-days. I can understand Americans saying killom-eter,
but a kilo-metre is not an odometer, a tachometer, speedometer,
milometer, nor any other instrument for measuring things.
As an aside the allotment plots in Gaydon village are measured in
fractions of an acre using rods.
I went round RAF Gaydon fro scholl in the mid 1950s.
In message <598addada9charles@candehope.me.uk>Not in that quantity, but we went inside one and into a Vulcan flight
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <f959db8a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>, John Rickman <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <be8f938259.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk> Nick Roberts
<tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
One oddity - I have no problem with measuring (route) distances in Km
rather than miles, but I still think in terms of miles per hour for
speeds. Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road speed signage >>> or speedometers to KPH.
The only problem with kilometres is the way the word is usually
pronounced now-a-days. I can understand Americans saying killom-eter,
but a kilo-metre is not an odometer, a tachometer, speedometer,
milometer, nor any other instrument for measuring things.
As an aside the allotment plots in Gaydon village are measured in
fractions of an acre using rods.
I went round RAF Gaydon fro scholl in the mid 1950s.
You may have seen these then
http://www.gaydon.org.uk/photos/oldpix/raf.jpg
John
In article <5ddae28a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>,
John Rickman <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <598addada9charles@candehope.me.uk>
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <f959db8a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>, John Rickman <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <be8f938259.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk> Nick Roberts >> <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
One oddity - I have no problem with measuring (route) distances in Km >>> rather than miles, but I still think in terms of miles per hour for
speeds. Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road speed signage >>> or speedometers to KPH.
The only problem with kilometres is the way the word is usually
pronounced now-a-days. I can understand Americans saying killom-eter,
but a kilo-metre is not an odometer, a tachometer, speedometer,
milometer, nor any other instrument for measuring things.
As an aside the allotment plots in Gaydon village are measured in
fractions of an acre using rods.
I went round RAF Gaydon fro scholl in the mid 1950s.
You may have seen these then
http://www.gaydon.org.uk/photos/oldpix/raf.jpg
JohnNot in that quantity, but we went inside one and into a Vulcan flight simulator
In article <598ae7e8ebcharles@candehope.me.uk>, charles
<charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <5ddae28a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>, John Rickman
<rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <598addada9charles@candehope.me.uk> charles
<charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <f959db8a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>, John Rickman <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <be8f938259.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk> Nick
Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
One oddity - I have no problem with measuring (route) distances
in Km rather than miles, but I still think in terms of miles per
hour for speeds. Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road
speed signage or speedometers to KPH.
The only problem with kilometres is the way the word is usually
pronounced now-a-days. I can understand Americans saying
killom-eter, but a kilo-metre is not an odometer, a tachometer,
speedometer, milometer, nor any other instrument for measuring
things.
As an aside the allotment plots in Gaydon village are measured in
fractions of an acre using rods.
I went round RAF Gaydon fro scholl in the mid 1950s.
You may have seen these then
http://www.gaydon.org.uk/photos/oldpix/raf.jpg
JohnNot in that quantity, but we went inside one and into a Vulcan flight simulator
I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague. I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s. My memory says
all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite the 'Victor' with
its ink pen nose.
Bob.
RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular)
converted from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a
Bomber base.
In article <598b45db2bcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular)
converted from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a
Bomber base.
So if I didn't see the scramble there, where might I have been?
It was a day out, so not too far from the midlands I wouldn't have
thought.
I think it was battle of Britain day does that make sense?
In article <598b45db2bcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular) converted
from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a Bomber base.
So if I didn't see the scramble there, where might I have been?
It was a day out, so not too far from the midlands I wouldn't have thought.
I think it was battle of Britain day does that make sense?
In message <598b4ea855bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
In article <598b45db2bcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular)
converted from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a
Bomber base.
So if I didn't see the scramble there, where might I have been?
It was a day out, so not too far from the midlands I wouldn't
have thought.
I think it was battle of Britain day does that make sense?
Yes. I remember going to several of those in my childhood. I also
remember Vulcans scrambling - one of the showpieces of each BoB day.
In my case it was probably RAF Finningley and RAF Scampton.
Imagine the security implications of thousands of members of the
public on an operational RAF base today!
I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)
In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)
In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)
There doesn't seem to have been a Vulcan bomber at the 1970s Farnborough
show I had transferred from Super8 to digital. Chinooks, Harriers, SkyVAN
and The Red Arrows are there though. https://youtu.be/_Sp-keOM31Q
In article <598ccfc450tim@invalid.org.uk>,
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick Roberts
<tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)
There doesn't seem to have been a Vulcan bomber at the 1970s Farnborough
show I had transferred from Super8 to digital. Chinooks, Harriers, SkyVAN
and The Red Arrows are there though. https://youtu.be/_Sp-keOM31Q
probaby in 1977, I has a Vulcan pass overhead at a very low altitude. it
had just banked to avoid hitting a red/white Decca Navigator mast. Scary.
On 17/11/2021 14:49, charles wrote:
In article <598ccfc450tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
<tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick
Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say
vague. I would have been very young at the time and I would guess
early 60s. My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my
then favourite the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a
low level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to
replace it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise
8-)
There doesn't seem to have been a Vulcan bomber at the 1970s
Farnborough show I had transferred from Super8 to digital. Chinooks,
Harriers, SkyVAN and The Red Arrows are there though.
https://youtu.be/_Sp-keOM31Q
probaby in 1977, I has a Vulcan pass overhead at a very low altitude.
it had just banked to avoid hitting a red/white Decca Navigator mast. Scary.
Just to play one-up, I saw a Vulcan with a Concorde engine strapped to
its belly at Farnborough in probably 1966. Now that _was_ noisy. ;-)
Just to play one-up, I saw a Vulcan with a Concorde
engine strapped to its belly at Farnborough in probably
1966. Now that _was_ noisy. ;-)
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