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Hi,

Is there an app that will tell you the size of a file in KB or MB instead
of bytes so I won't have to plough through the maths.

RealCount by Sergio Monesi is from 1995 at is not 32 bit compatible.

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In message <5ce3d805a9mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Hi,

Is there an app that will tell you the size of a file in KB or MB instead
of bytes so I won't have to plough through the maths.

Try turning on 'Full Info' in your filer dispaly that seems to show K
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In article <c423dce35c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5ce3d805a9mec@npost.uk>
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Is there an app that will tell you the size of a file in KB or MB
instead of bytes so I won't have to plough through the maths.

Try turning on 'Full Info' in your filer dispaly that seems to show
K

Small files are shown as a number of Bytes, if over 64K they are shown
as kilobytes, and if over 64M they are shown as Megabytes. The limits
may not be correct, but the prinicple applies!
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On 4 Jun 2026 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:

Is there an app that will tell you the size of a file in KB or MB instead
of bytes so I won't have to plough through the maths.

Director does it as part of its MenuMenu (displayed when you click Menu
over the"File..." entry in the Filer menu), but that's slight overkill
for your purposes...

Looking at the relevant files (!Director.Menus.Files.FilerMenu), the
bit of BASIC concerned is

SYS "OS_ConvertFileSize",Size%,block%,1023 TO ,t%:?t%=13
IF ?(t%-6)=32 OR Size%=1 THEN
SYS Option%,"""Size: "+$block%+""""
ELSE
SYS Option%,"""Size: "+$block%+", "+STR$(Size%)+" bytes"""
ENDIF

where block% is an arbitrary block of memory and Size% is the size in
bytes.
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In article <c423dce35c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5ce3d805a9mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Hi,

Is there an app that will tell you the size of a file in KB or MB
instead of bytes so I won't have to plough through the maths.

Try turning on 'Full Info' in your filer dispaly that seems to show K

So it does. Ta. But makes the view a bit unwieldy. Too much information.
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In article <5ce3e3fd77mec@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <c423dce35c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5ce3d805a9mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

Is there an app that will tell you the size of a file in KB or
MB instead of bytes so I won't have to plough through the maths.

Try turning on 'Full Info' in your filer dispaly that seems to
show K

So it does. Ta. But makes the view a bit unwieldy. Too much
information.

You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F to cycle
round them.

There is always the command line eg
to list all files in current directory use:
*info *
to list all files in Apps directory use:
*info Apps.*
to list one file use:
*info filename
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In article <5ce46469ebNews04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce3e3fd77mec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <c423dce35c.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <5ce3d805a9mec@npost.uk> Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
wrote:

Is there an app that will tell you the size of a file in KB or MB instead of bytes so I won't have to plough through the maths.

Try turning on 'Full Info' in your filer dispaly that seems to show
K

So it does. Ta. But makes the view a bit unwieldy. Too much
information.

You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F to cycle
round them.

So it does. I didn't know that. Most useful. Every day's a learning day.
Ta.
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On 6 Jun 2026 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:

[snip]

Ta. Never really explored Director but having a play now.

I also find Director useful for doing a one-off change in Filer display
format without affecting the default for any subsequent directories you
open: clicking Menu over the close icon of a Filer window gives you a
menu with the options "Full info by date" and "Small icons by name" down
at the bottom (along with the various other options you get when
clicking Menu over the close icon of any other window, e.g. iconise,
pin, close all windows belonging to the parent app, etc.)

I normally have my Filer display as Large icons by type, so it's
occasionally handy to be able to switch the display for other purposes.
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You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F to
cycle round them.

So it does. I didn't know that. Most useful. Every day's a
learning day. Ta.

Apologies for ignorance but how does Ctrl-F work to cycle formats?
I've tried it in filer window and it brings up a 'Find file' dialogue
box.

Richard

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In article <5ce5c6d97abasura@invalid.addr.uk>,
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F to
cycle round them.

So it does. I didn't know that. Most useful. Every day's a
learning day. Ta.

Apologies for ignorance but how does Ctrl-F work to cycle formats?
I've tried it in filer window and it brings up a 'Find file' dialogue
box.

Put your pointer in a directory (In a space, not over a file or folder)
then hold CTRL and keep pressing "F". You'll find it cycles through the various options. When you open a folder the format you chosen remains
until you press Ctrl-F again.

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In article <5ce5c6d97abasura@invalid.addr.uk>,
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F to
cycle round them.

So it does. I didn't know that. Most useful. Every day's a
learning day. Ta.

Apologies for ignorance but how does Ctrl-F work to cycle formats?
I've tried it in filer window and it brings up a 'Find file'
dialogue box.

I suspect you are running QuickFiler? That allocates several function
keys for filer-related actions, and by default Ctrl-F is indeed to
open the Find File dialog box.

QF allocates by default F1,F2,F3 & F4 to specific filer formats, so
you may not need the normal Ctrl-F cycle formats. But if you do,
simply comment out the MH17 line in !InstallQF.QMessages with a # hash
sign and then re-install QF.
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In message <5ce5d131d8News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce5c6d97abasura@invalid.addr.uk>,
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F to
cycle round them.

So it does. I didn't know that. Most useful. Every day's a
learning day. Ta.

Apologies for ignorance but how does Ctrl-F work to cycle formats?
I've tried it in filer window and it brings up a 'Find file'
dialogue box.

I suspect you are running QuickFiler? That allocates several function
keys for filer-related actions, and by default Ctrl-F is indeed to
open the Find File dialog box.

QF allocates by default F1,F2,F3 & F4 to specific filer formats, so
you may not need the normal Ctrl-F cycle formats. But if you do,
simply comment out the MH17 line in !InstallQF.QMessages with a # hash
sign and then re-install QF.

I use QuickFiler and to find out the information on a file Ctrl-I works
very well, (byte precision).
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In article <5ce5d131d8News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce5c6d97abasura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery
<basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F
to cycle round them.

So it does. I didn't know that. Most useful. Every day's a
learning day. Ta.

Apologies for ignorance but how does Ctrl-F work to cycle
formats? I've tried it in filer window and it brings up a 'Find
file' dialogue box.

I suspect you are running QuickFiler? That allocates several
function keys for filer-related actions, and by default Ctrl-F is
indeed to open the Find File dialog box.

Thanks Martin - that's exactly my setup. I should have realised that
QuickFiler does this. Incidentally an excellent program.

QF allocates by default F1,F2,F3 & F4 to specific filer formats, so
you may not need the normal Ctrl-F cycle formats. But if you do,
simply comment out the MH17 line in !InstallQF.QMessages with a #
hash sign and then re-install QF.

Thanks for that information.

I've never used QuickFiler's Ctrl-I option pointed out by Jean-Michel
to find file byte size - very useful.

Richard

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In article <5ce64149d5basura@invalid.addr.uk>,
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce5d131d8News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce5c6d97abasura@invalid.addr.uk>, Richard Ashbery
<basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

You can esiliy switch the Filer between formats using Ctrl-F
to cycle round them.

So it does. I didn't know that. Most useful. Every day's a
learning day. Ta.

Apologies for ignorance but how does Ctrl-F work to cycle
formats? I've tried it in filer window and it brings up a 'Find
file' dialogue box.

I suspect you are running QuickFiler? That allocates several
function keys for filer-related actions, and by default Ctrl-F is
indeed to open the Find File dialog box.

Thanks Martin - that's exactly my setup. I should have realised that QuickFiler does this. Incidentally an excellent program.

QF allocates by default F1,F2,F3 & F4 to specific filer formats, so
you may not need the normal Ctrl-F cycle formats. But if you do,
simply comment out the MH17 line in !InstallQF.QMessages with a #
hash sign and then re-install QF.

I discovered I had a copy of the QuickFiler utility but the installer
gave this lot..

15:20:27.91 ** WimpError ** from QuickFiler v2.24 Installer
Error : &00000000
Message: Sorry, install failed due to Token MT11 mismatch 'Rename' vs
'Rename ^R'. QuickFiler removed from !Boot.
15:20:27.91 Exec
15:20:36.75 ** Error **
Error : &000000F8
Message: Filing system or path ram: not present
15:20:36.75 Exec
15:22:40.83 %Filer_OpenDir ADFS::FAST.$
15:22:49.75 *Filer_Action
15:22:49.75 *WimpSlot -min 40k -max 40k
15:22:49.75 Exec
15:22:50.01 Exec


FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.31

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In article <5ce646c1ecnewslists@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

I discovered I had a copy of the QuickFiler utility but the
installer gave this lot..

15:20:27.91 ** WimpError ** from QuickFiler v2.24 Installer
Error : &00000000
Message: Sorry, install failed due to Token MT11 mismatch
'Rename' vs 'Rename ^R'. QuickFiler removed from !Boot.

You discovered an *old* version of QF - about 11 years old.
The latest v2.28 should work just fine.
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In article <5ce64149d5basura@invalid.addr.uk>,
Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

I've never used QuickFiler's Ctrl-I option pointed out by
Jean-Michel to find file byte size - very useful.

When you install QF it creates a !Help file, showing all the shortcut
keys for YOUR installation. This is displayed and also stored in Choices:Boot.Tasks.!QFiler for reference.
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In article <5ce649dce1News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce646c1ecnewslists@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

I discovered I had a copy of the QuickFiler utility but the
installer gave this lot..

15:20:27.91 ** WimpError ** from QuickFiler v2.24 Installer
Error : &00000000
Message: Sorry, install failed due to Token MT11 mismatch
'Rename' vs 'Rename ^R'. QuickFiler removed from !Boot.

You discovered an *old* version of QF - about 11 years old.
The latest v2.28 should work just fine.

Anyone got a link please?

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In article <5ce654eb85newslists@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce649dce1News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce646c1ecnewslists@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

I discovered I had a copy of the QuickFiler utility but the
installer gave this lot..

15:20:27.91 ** WimpError ** from QuickFiler v2.24 Installer
Error : &00000000
Message: Sorry, install failed due to Token MT11 mismatch
'Rename' vs 'Rename ^R'. QuickFiler removed from !Boot.

You discovered an *old* version of QF - about 11 years old.
The latest v2.28 should work just fine.

Anyone got a link please?

Look in !InstallQF and you will see http://www.avisoft.f9.co.uk
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In article <5ce658046fNews04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce654eb85newslists@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce649dce1News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News04@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

In article <5ce646c1ecnewslists@npost.uk>,
Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

I discovered I had a copy of the QuickFiler utility but the
installer gave this lot..

15:20:27.91 ** WimpError ** from QuickFiler v2.24 Installer
Error : &00000000
Message: Sorry, install failed due to Token MT11 mismatch
'Rename' vs 'Rename ^R'. QuickFiler removed from !Boot.

You discovered an *old* version of QF - about 11 years old.
The latest v2.28 should work just fine.

Anyone got a link please?

Look in !InstallQF and you will see http://www.avisoft.f9.co.uk

Got it. Didn't look that far down the helpfile.

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