I had occasion to send a voice recording from my mobile phone via email, which I first had to get from my phone to my PC - no problem.
Next step - check that the file played OK before sending it on. Used
LanMan 98 to get it on this machine - came over as a text file, so I
checked and .M4A is not in my MimeMap file.
I tried playing the file in the various sound apps I have on here, but nothing played it.
Not sure if it got corrupted transferring via LanMan 98 so I emailed it to myself via my phone and have sent it on as required, however, it leaves me with a couple of questions:
1. Is there a RISC OS app that can play .M4A files?
2. I couldn't open the files on my phone from RISC OS, having to go
through my PC instead. Is there a way of accessing the files on
an Android phone using the USB cable?
On 16 Mar 2025 as I do recall,
Brian Howlett wrote:
1. Is there a RISC OS app that can play .M4A files?
Try changing the file type to MP4 (&A64) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9412384/m4a-mp4-file-format-whats-the-difference-or-are-they-the-same
Is there a way of accessing the files on an Android phone using the USB cable?
In article <0a10b4fe5b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>,
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
Is there a way of accessing the files on an Android phone using the USB
cable?
Not as far as I am aware, but I agree there should be!.
Try changing the file type to MP4 (&A64)
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9412384/m4a-mp4-file-format-whats-the- >> difference-or-are-they-the-same
Experimenting with the sample file at https://getsamplefiles.com/sample-audio-files/m4a suggests that !FFMpeg
can recognise and convert M4A files to Wave format (although there were
a lot of background clicks that might have been avoided if I had known
how to use a more suitable conversion!)
In article <0a10b4fe5b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>, Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
Is there a way of accessing the files on an Android phone using the USB
cable?
Not as far as I am aware, but I agree there should be!.
Did you know a USB stick works fine with a short adapter lead directly on Android? I recommend a lead as it's less prone to physical damage than a direct plug-in. You can get sticks now with a different plug each end, but the thought of it makes me shudder! Obviously using FAT32fs.
You can try MTP by Dave Higton to transfer files.
It can either be restricted just to Photo/Video files, PTP I think, or
more general file transfer using MTP depending on the Android
phone/version.
On 17 Mar, Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
Experimenting with the sample file at https://getsamplefiles.com/sample-audio-files/m4a suggests that !FFMpeg
can recognise and convert M4A files to Wave format (although there were
a lot of background clicks that might have been avoided if I had known
how to use a more suitable conversion!)
The version of !FFMpeg I have here locks up my machine, or at least
appears to - how long should the conversion of a file of about 250Mb take, do you know?
I've been searching the web for the latest version of !FFMpeg to no avail
- it looks like a number of people have been working on it. The link to <http://www.users.on.net/~belles/software/ffmpeg/> in the StrongHelp
manual for the version currently installed here isn't working.
I tried using my NAS (Synology DS115J) as an intermediate step, and
that worked OK, so either way I'm sorted for now.
Is there a way of accessing the files on
an Android phone using the USB cabl
On 16 Mar, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
You can try MTP by Dave Higton to transfer files.
It can either be restricted just to Photo/Video files, PTP I think, or
more general file transfer using MTP depending on the Android phone/version.
Downloaded and installed !MTP, but not working as yet.
When I plug in my phone, I get a "Session not open" error.
I'll have a play about and a reboot later, but thanks for the suggestion - looks like it could be very useful.
In article <0a10b4fe5b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>, Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
Is there a way of accessing the files on an Android phone using the USB cabl
Dave Higton's !MTP
https://davehigton.me.uk/
It's quite crude but it may well do the trick.
I have use this with a canon camera. When last I enquired Dave had other things to do of more importance, so if someone wants to take it over, he would probably be willing.
I don't know if your phone behaves at all like mine, but when I plug a
USB cable in, the default for me is just charging. To get MTP I have
to change an option.
In message <a5583aff5b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>I had not used !MTP for some time .... but I get a USB I/O error.
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
On 16 Mar, Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
You can try MTP by Dave Higton to transfer files.
It can either be restricted just to Photo/Video files, PTP I think, or
more general file transfer using MTP depending on the Android
phone/version.
Downloaded and installed !MTP, but not working as yet.
When I plug in my phone, I get a "Session not open" error.
I'll have a play about and a reboot later, but thanks for the suggestion - >> looks like it could be very useful.
I don't know if your phone behaves at all like mine, but when I plug a
USB cable in, the default for me is just charging. To get MTP I have
to change an option.
David
It ought to run in a taskwindow, so it shouldn't be locking the machine
at all.
I think 250Mb might take a while, especially if you are asking FFMpeg to convert the audio to a different format rather than just extracting the
audio track -- and it is reporting the audio stream as 'aac', which
isn't a format that RISC OS players seem to like.
I've been searching the web for the latest version of !FFMpeg to no avail
- it looks like a number of people have been working on it. The link to
<http://www.users.on.net/~belles/software/ffmpeg/> in the StrongHelp
manual for the version currently installed here isn't working.
No, I found the same thing (about the link).
I did come across a mention of a later version, which people were saying
was ten times faster, but since I got the impression that it was a command-line only port and I really don't know what I am doing with the
RISC OS !FFMpeg as it is, I didn't attempt to download it.
A very quick check confirms that the link to that version is at least
still valid:
https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/5/topics/16195 https://www.riscosports.co.uk/eabi/
On 17 Mar, Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
I think 250Mb might take a while, especially if you are asking FFMpeg to convert the audio to a different format rather than just extracting the audio track -- and it is reporting the audio stream as 'aac', which
isn't a format that RISC OS players seem to like.
It was just a 3.5 minute voice recording off my phone.
In article <cfa138ff5b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>,
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
I tried using my NAS (Synology DS115J) as an intermediate step, and
that worked OK, so either way I'm sorted for now.
I use an Android app called X-plore which allows files to be deleted,
or moved/copied between our Android devices and my Synology NAS. It
has a filer-like interface, and many other facilities as well. It has
worked flawlessly here for several years. I have not tried using SMB
to other devices.
For real ease of use I use the Android app File Manager + which includes
an FTP server, (Access from Network) option. It gives you the Host
address with port, the username and password. You just plug these into
!FTPc and you have access to all the files on your phone in RISC OS via
your home network.
In article <5bff3e56faNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <cfa138ff5b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>,
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
I tried using my NAS (Synology DS115J) as an intermediate step,
and that worked OK, so either way I'm sorted for now.
I use an Android app called X-plore which allows files to be
deleted, or moved/copied between our Android devices and my
Synology NAS. It has a filer-like interface, and many other
facilities as well. It has worked flawlessly here for several
years. I have not tried using SMB to other devices.
For real ease of use I use the Android app File Manager + which
includes an FTP server, (Access from Network) option. It gives you
the Host address with port, the username and password. You just
plug these into !FTPc and you have access to all the files on your
phone in RISC OS via your home network.
On 21 Mar 2025 as I do recall,
Richard Darby (news) wrote:
[snip]
For real ease of use I use the Android app File Manager + which
includes an FTP server, (Access from Network) option. It gives
you the Host address with port, the username and password. You
just plug these into !FTPc and you have access to all the files
on your phone in RISC OS via your home network.
But does it allow access in the other direction, i.e. transfer of
files written under RISC OS onto an Android system?
For real ease of use I use the Android app File Manager + which includes
an FTP server, (Access from Network) option. It gives you the Host address with port, the username and password. You just plug these into !FTPc and
you have access to all the files on your phone in RISC OS via your home network.
For real ease of use I use the Android app File Manager +
[snip]
But does it allow access in the other direction, i.e. transfer of files written under RISC OS onto an Android system?
Opportunity for a little helper app there!
editing the password part of the string for subsequent launching
In article <5bff3e56faNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
In article <cfa138ff5b.BrianNews@brianhowlett.me.uk>,
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
I tried using my NAS (Synology DS115J) as an intermediate step, and
that worked OK, so either way I'm sorted for now.
I use an Android app called X-plore which allows files to be deleted,
or moved/copied between our Android devices and my Synology NAS. It
has a filer-like interface, and many other facilities as well. It has worked flawlessly here for several years. I have not tried using SMB
to other devices.
For real ease of use I use the Android app File Manager + which includes
an FTP server, (Access from Network) option. It gives you the Host
address with port, the username and password. You just plug these into
!FTPc and you have access to all the files on your phone in RISC OS via
your home network.
ftp://192.168.1.234:26-- (last 2 digits I've redacted)
I put that in Host
A 2 character Username
A 6 digit password.
In article <5c086b0e96newslists@npost.uk>, Chris Newman
<newslists@npost.uk> wrote:
ftp://192.168.1.234:26-- (last 2 digits I've redacted) I put that in
Host
A 2 character Username
A 6 digit password.
If you construct a URL (in StrongED) in the form:
ftp://pc:123456@192.168.1.234:1234/
with the 6 digit number (passcode) and 4 digit number (the port number)
as shown it will work when you double-click it. It will launch FTPc,
assuming it has at least been "seen" by the filer.
You had missed-out the "pc" from the illustration you were presented
with by Filer +, which goes first.
This will also launch a spurious blank NetSurf window. Just close that.
When your connection is made, just use the menu to save the item to
FTPs User Menu.
From then on use the User Menu to access the item.
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