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As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)
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In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Iris and Google Search stopped working properly about 2 months ago.

NetSurf does not have a good enough Javascript now to work Google Search

Google now insists on the use of Javascript, etc..

There is a recent tread on the ROOL forums all about this issue.

Use DuckDuckGo instead.
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Bonjour Harriet

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Same message here...
I managed to get !NetSurf working again on my ARMX6.

1) JavaScript should not be disabled in the choice panel.
2) In SCSI::SSD.$.!Boot.Choices.WWW.Netsurf directory:
I deleted both cookies and URL files (you can make a backup of them)

Note : !Netsurf writes these files when closing the application, so it
must be done without !Netsurf being running.

By relaunching !Netsurf you have access to Google search, don't ask me
why!

!Netsurf verion 3.11 (28th Dec 2023)

I had the same problem with a RPi4 (ePic), finally I installed !NetSurf
with a copy from my ARMX6, and it works.
If the recommended method does not work with your ARMX6, I can send you a copy.
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On 20 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Chris Hughes wrote:

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Iris and Google Search stopped working properly about 2 months ago.

NetSurf does not have a good enough Javascript now to work Google Search

Ironically Netsurf *does* work Google Search with JavaScript enabled -
at least for the moment. Presumably it doesn't implement sufficient of
the JS script involved to reach the captcha stage.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22mustard+pot%22&lr=&tbm=isch

Use DuckDuckGo instead.

It doesn't appear to support image searches, which is a pain.
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Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Iris and Google Search stopped working properly about 2 months ago.

NetSurf does not have a good enough Javascript now to work Google Search

Google now insists on the use of Javascript, etc..

There is a recent tread on the ROOL forums all about this issue.

Use DuckDuckGo instead.

StartPage.com uses the same index as Google, but without all the Google cross-promotion (Maps, Shopping, AI, etc). The front page doesn't work in NetSurf, but a query URL does:

https://www.startpage.com/sp/search?query=iyonix

Once you go to that page you can type into the search box as normal.

Theo
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In article <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Well, interesting...
Allowing for the limited abilities of NetSurf generally...

VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20.
I'm using NetSurf #6764 with JS On, and I've just used Google Search to
find a couple of things and read 'em okay.

RPCEmu 0.9.4 RISC OS 5.31 (Sept 24) NetSurf #5261 and I've also used
Google Search to find a couple of things and read them okay. :-)

?
Dave
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On 20 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Jean-Michel wrote:

Bonjour Harriet

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Same message here...
I managed to get !NetSurf working again on my ARMX6.

1) JavaScript should not be disabled in the choice panel.
2) In SCSI::SSD.$.!Boot.Choices.WWW.Netsurf directory:
I deleted both cookies and URL files (you can make a backup of them)

Note : !Netsurf writes these files when closing the application, so it
must be done without !Netsurf being running.

By relaunching !Netsurf you have access to Google search, don't ask me
why!

It currently works here without wiping the cookies, but I suspect that
is a very temporary solution until someone at Google gets round to
tightening up their checks for 'standard' browsers. :-(
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A closed mouth gathers no foot.
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Google search with !Iris
In message <cc211fe25b.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>
Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:

Bonjour Harriet

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Same message here...
I managed to get !NetSurf working again on my ARMX6.

1) JavaScript should not be disabled in the choice panel.
2) In SCSI::SSD.$.!Boot.Choices.WWW.Netsurf directory:
I deleted both cookies and URL files (you can make a backup of them)

Note : !Netsurf writes these files when closing the application, so it
must be done without !Netsurf being running.

By relaunching !Netsurf you have access to Google search, don't ask me
why!

!Netsurf verion 3.11 (28th Dec 2023)

I had the same problem with a RPi4 (ePic), finally I installed !NetSurf
with a copy from my ARMX6, and it works.
If the recommended method does not work with your ARMX6, I can send you a copy.

I just tried this method with !Iris and it works!

1) backup your folder
SCSI::SSD.$.!Boot.Choices.WWW.Iris

2) Run !Iris

3) Do a Google search
You get a captcha, click on the left part of it to obtain an animated
arc.
The arc keeps spinning (Iris problem...?)

4)close the window and do a Google search again
You get a Google page asking for acceptance or rejection, I clicked on rejection.

5) Now if you do a Google search it happens normally.

6 ) If you need it you can retrieve the information from your !Iris
choices backup

Note 1:
Accessing Google from Risc OS Open has the same problem!!! =>ko
Note 2:
Oddly enough! Browse doesn't have these issues...even without JavaScript.
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In article <5be2219574dave@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

In article <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Well, interesting...
Allowing for the limited abilities of NetSurf generally...

VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20.
I'm using NetSurf #6764 with JS On, and I've just used Google Search to
find a couple of things and read 'em okay.

RPCEmu 0.9.4 RISC OS 5.31 (Sept 24) NetSurf #5261 and I've also used
Google Search to find a couple of things and read them okay. :-)

?
Dave

Interesting or not...

I updated my RISC OS 6.20 NetSurf to #6786 and that won't do a Google
Search.

Reverting to #6764 and it will again do the Google Search.

Similarly... Update the RPCEmu to the #6768 and it won't do the search.

Revert to #6764 and it will again do the Google Search.

Dave
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In article <5be2219574dave@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

In article <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Well, interesting...
Allowing for the limited abilities of NetSurf generally...

VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20.
I'm using NetSurf #6764 with JS On, and I've just used Google Search to
find a couple of things and read 'em okay.

RPCEmu 0.9.4 RISC OS 5.31 (Sept 24) NetSurf #5261 and I've also used
Google Search to find a couple of things and read them okay. :-)

?
Dave

Interesting or not...

I updated my RISC OS 6.20 NetSurf to #6786 and that won't do a Google
Search.

Reverting to #6764 and it will again do the Google Search.

Similarly... Update the RPCEmu to the #6768 and it won't do the search.

Revert to #6764 and it will again do the Google Search.

Dave
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In message <2d151ce25b.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Iris and Google Search stopped working properly about 2 months ago.

Google works OK with Iris here, I've changed the user agent to:

IRIS for RISC OS

This also makes Iris work with allt he My Society sites.

NetSurf does not have a good enough Javascript now to work Google Search

Google now insists on the use of Javascript, etc..

There is a recent tread on the ROOL forums all about this issue.

Use DuckDuckGo instead.

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carpe cervisium
There are only so many times I can say sorry and still mean it.
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On 20 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Kevin Wells wrote:

In message <2d151ce25b.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

Iris and Google Search stopped working properly about 2 months ago.

Google works OK with Iris here, I've changed the user agent to:

IRIS for RISC OS

This also makes Iris work with allt he My Society sites.

Interesting - that works here as well, and is the reverse of what I
would expect (though it still doesn't get me past the 'do you accept
cookies' check for results found on Reddit, sadly, where neither
'Accept'aor 'Reject' has any effect!)

Normally sites compare the user agent to a list of known 'supported'
values, and proceed to reject anything else....
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On 20 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Theo wrote:

StartPage.com uses the same index as Google, but without all the Google cross-promotion (Maps, Shopping, AI, etc). The front page doesn't work in NetSurf, but a query URL does:

https://www.startpage.com/sp/search?query=iyonix

Once you go to that page you can type into the search box as normal.

Here it only displays the last eight characters typed, which is a bit disconcerting (I assumed I had accidentally selected and overtyped the
first word of my query!)
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He who always ploughs a straight furrow is in a rut.
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On 20 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Harriet Bazley wrote:

On 20 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Theo wrote:

StartPage.com uses the same index as Google, but without all the Google cross-promotion (Maps, Shopping, AI, etc). The front page doesn't work in NetSurf, but a query URL does:

https://www.startpage.com/sp/search?query=iyonix

Once you go to that page you can type into the search box as normal.

Here it only displays the last eight characters typed, which is a bit disconcerting (I assumed I had accidentally selected and overtyped the
first word of my query!)

Interestingly, it seems that both front page and query URL allow you to
type full-length into the search box provided you use the new option to
disable CSS in Netsurf - it's just a pain that (as with JavaScript) one
can only do this globally via the application choices rather than on an individual browser window basis.
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A bachelor is footloose and fiancee free.
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Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

As of yesterday Google search no longer works on either Netsurf or
Iris ("our systems have detected unusual traffic from your network"....)

https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/17/google-begins-requiring-javascript-for-google-search/
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 10:28:28 +0000, Harriet Bazley wrote:

On 20 Jan 2025 as I do recall,
Chris Hughes wrote:

In message <39fde2e15b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

[SNIP]

Use DuckDuckGo instead.

It doesn't appear to support image searches, which is a pain.

I've reset my NetSurf homepage to https://uk.yahoo.com?/p=uk
The search option on here works within NetSurf

Or to go direct to the search page: https://uk.search.yahoo.com/web

Search appears to work in Netsurf, it also has an image search

Regards
Paul

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On 1 Feb 2025 as I do recall,
phorefaux wrote:

[snip]

I've reset my NetSurf homepage to https://uk.yahoo.com?/p=uk
The search option on here works within NetSurf

Or to go direct to the search page: https://uk.search.yahoo.com/web

Search appears to work in Netsurf, it also has an image search

Thanks - that seems to work (and the click-through from the image search results takes you to the relevant page on which the image was found,
which the StartPage image results don't seem to do!)

Added to hotlist....
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If your feet smell and your nose runs - you're built upside down.
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In message <811878e85b.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

On 1 Feb 2025 as I do recall,
phorefaux wrote:

[snip]

I've reset my NetSurf homepage to https://uk.yahoo.com?/p=uk
The search option on here works within NetSurf

Or to go direct to the search page: https://uk.search.yahoo.com/web

Search appears to work in Netsurf, it also has an image search

Thanks - that seems to work (and the click-through from the image search results takes you to the relevant page on which the image was found,
which the StartPage image results don't seem to do!)

Added to hotlist....

Glad to hear that has worked for you!
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Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42
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