From Newsgroup: comp.programming

In article <10700ep$3g52n$1@dont-email.me>,
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 05.08.2025 00:33, Dan Cross wrote:

I'd say, give it a whirl. You may feel the same, but you may
also be pleasantly (or perhaps unpleasantly!) surprised. In any
event, I'd like to know how it turns out.

- Dan C

Circumstances limit me from giving a detailed reply here. But I do want
to thank you for your time and the information and experiences you have >shared here. Perhaps precisely because you are not evangelising, you
are a lot more convincing than many things I have read. It will take me >some time before I can give Rust a fair trial for my coding, but I will >definitely see how I can fit it in, and compare it to how I work now in
C and C++.

Thanks for the kind words: I totally get it, and I respect your
approach. I do hope you get an opportunity to take it for a
spin, and please, do post about your experiences when you do.

- Dan C.

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From Newsgroup: comp.programming

On 30/07/2025 20:53, Dan Cross wrote:

In article <106dpis$3b9ks$2@dont-email.me>,
Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

On 30/07/2025 20:40, Dan Cross wrote:

You accused me of being unable to read. That's rude,

No, that was a *retort*, but you are either too stupid or
too dishonest to just shut the fuck up, let alone apologise.

Apologize for...what?

But the shameless fraudulent marketing together with the pollution
of all ponds won't stop, in the generalised nazi-retarded shithole
that we/you are, which the only thing that has really won: thank
you, the sons of the Huns and the self-fulfilling prophecies.

[Berkeley Seminar] Raph Levien | How Rust won: the quest for
performant, reliable software <https://youtu.be/k_-6KI3m31M?si=9WCzZOtRmnaH4uf4>

Pieces of "winning" shit: but, besides the marketers on behalf of
the nazi monsters, a special thank you goes to the whole academic
and scientific pyramid, for the legitimisation of that and all
monstrosities: you special pieces of ungodly retarded shit...

-Julio

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From Newsgroup: comp.programming

[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]

I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.

Thoughts?

- Dan C.

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From Newsgroup: comp.programming

cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:

[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]

I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.

Thoughts?

I am in favor of creating comp.lang.rust, and hereby
officially give Dan Cross my proxy in any voting.

If comp.lang.rust is created, I expect I will at least
try reading it for a while. I have had a longstanding
interest in learning rust, and have been frustated by
how horrible the existing explanatory materials are.
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From Newsgroup: comp.programming

On 10/03/2025 14:14, Tim Rentsch wrote:

cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:

[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]

I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research. It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.

Thoughts?

I am in favor of creating comp.lang.rust, and hereby
officially give Dan Cross my proxy in any voting.

If comp.lang.rust is created, I expect I will at least
try reading it for a while. I have had a longstanding
interest in learning rust, and have been frustated by
how horrible the existing explanatory materials are.

There is an alt.comp.lang.rust - but it has very little traffic - comp.lang.rust would be better.

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From Newsgroup: comp.programming

On 2025-03-10, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:

[Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]

I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/).

Grownups interested in Rust should have a place for discussing it in
which "anything goes", and Usenet is the best forum in the world for
that.

Now, I strongly suspect that a Rust newsgroup will be ignored by pretty
much the entire current Rust demographic---but it doesn't matter.

Usenet has no security. People can use fake identies easily. The
authenticty of next to nothing can be ascertained. It's not a "safe" environment. Anyone can say anything. You cannot enforce anything
resembling a code of conduct.

Core Rust development discussions (the sane people) are certainly not
going to move to Usenet, where they cannot enforce their rules.

Most of the remaining demographic clustered around Rust cannot wrap
their heads around that something like Usenet is even allowed to exist.
It mainly consists of paranoid, security-obsessed freaks who are running
from something, and includes a surprising number of social activists.

A Rust forum repugnant to them could foster alterantive narratives.
It would be a benefit to Rust, even if in all likelihood small.
--
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From Newsgroup: comp.programming

On 3/10/25 12:42 PM, Richard Harnden wrote:

On 10/03/2025 14:14, Tim Rentsch wrote:

cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:

[Note:-a Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]

I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
programming language (https://rust-lang.org/).-a Rust is a
compiled, type- and memory- safe language that has been in open
development since 2010, and is rapidly gaining adoption in
industry and research.-a It often comes up in discussions related
to C and C++, but no existing group is dedicated to it.

Thoughts?

I am in favor of creating comp.lang.rust, and hereby
officially give Dan Cross my proxy in any voting.

If comp.lang.rust is created, I expect I will at least
try reading it for a while.-a I have had a longstanding
interest in learning rust, and have been frustated by
how horrible the existing explanatory materials are.

There is an alt.comp.lang.rust - but it has very little traffic - comp.lang.rust would be better.

There is nothing WRONG with Rust. You can build
big/complex programs using it.

However it STILL stinks of Yet Another 'C' Replacement.
Same capability, but with much more annoying syntax.

CLUE guys - make it EASIER, not WEIRDER.

Rust DOES enforce some 'safety' stuff - but if you're
a half-assed 'C' programmer you already DO all that.

Don't do all that much 'C' anymore since I retired,
mostly Python. It's easier, clearer. However a few
things - esp client/server - are still easier and
clearer in 'C'.

Keep WANTING to learn 'D' ... always install it ...
but never seem to get around ............

Five or ten years, humans won't really "program" much
anymore - it'll all be "AI". Sucky. Worrisome.
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