• HP Wants to Rent You a Printer That It Monitors at All Times

    From Internetado@internetado@bbs.alt119.net to comp.periphs.printers on Sat Mar 2 20:10:45 2024
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    HP's "All-In Plan" requires a constant internet connection so that the
    company can see not just how many pages you're printing, but what file
    types. It costs up to $36 per month.

    https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.periphs.printers on Sun Mar 3 09:50:22 2024
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    On 2024-03-02, Internetado wrote:

    HP's "All-In Plan" requires a constant internet connection so that the company can see not just how many pages you're printing, but what file
    types. It costs up to $36 per month.

    https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/

    This has been making the rounds on fediverse (or at least on Mastodon?)
    for a while now - I guess HP is trying really hard to kill their printer business. Which, a looong time ago, might have been something they
    didn't suck at?

    Now is this going to happen only with inkjet or with their laser
    printers too?

    Even without this, I'd discourage getting inkjet printers sold by
    HP. I've twice seen such printers rendered useless or harder to use by
    brittle materials.

    With this pricing, HP printers might also be more expensive for those
    who have a cheaper printing service available nearby. Might depend on
    whether one wants to print often in color, though.

    Also, what about when the copyright cartels get hold of this and start requiring that HP inflates prices with payments purportedly to
    "compensate for printing protected works". Or have they already done
    that?
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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@ank@spamfence.net to comp.periphs.printers on Sun Mar 3 21:53:02 2024
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    On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 09:50:22 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote:

    On 2024-03-02, Internetado wrote:

    HP's "All-In Plan" requires a constant internet connection so that the
    company can see not just how many pages you're printing, but what file
    types. It costs up to $36 per month.

    https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/

    This has been making the rounds on fediverse (or at least on Mastodon?)
    for a while now - I guess HP is trying really hard to kill their printer business. Which, a looong time ago, might have been something they
    didn't suck at?

    Now is this going to happen only with inkjet or with their laser
    printers too?

    You [agree to] *rent* a printer and ink.

    Quote:

    | HP launched a subscription service Thursday that rents people a
    | printer, allots them a specific amount of printed pages, and sends
    | them ink for a monthly fee. HP is framing its service as a way to
    | simplify printing for families and small businesses, but the deal
    | also comes with monitoring and a years-long commitment.

    Fine with me.
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  • From Arthur Conan Doyle@dont@bother.com to comp.periphs.printers on Mon Mar 4 12:59:12 2024
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    Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

    | HP launched a subscription service Thursday that rents people a
    | printer, allots them a specific amount of printed pages, and sends
    | them ink for a monthly fee. HP is framing its service as a way to
    | simplify printing for families and small businesses, but the deal
    | also comes with monitoring and a years-long commitment.

    Fine with me.

    It's no different that most small business arrangements for photocopiers these days. They pay a local office machine company by the sheet for every copy made with certain usage minimums. Buying the machine outright is too expensive for most.

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  • From jeffj@jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) to comp.periphs.printers on Wed Mar 13 18:00:47 2024
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    | HP launched a subscription service Thursday that rents people a printer

    It's no different that most small business arrangements for photocopiers

    1) I believe the photocopier leasing/rental includes service.
    Will HP dispatch technicians to repair a leased printer?

    2) I believe Xerox's original arrangement was pay per page
    not a rental or ownership since businesses
    grossly underestimated the copy count.
    Xerox made a bundle that way.
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