• Are printer drivers for Canon i9900 & MX860 available without installing the printer?

    From Harry S Robins@stanleyrobins@nothere.uk to comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Tue Feb 20 11:57:06 2024
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    Today I saw two Canon printers at the thrift store but don't know how to
    tell if the printer drivers will be automatically installed and supported
    by Windows 10 update if I go back and get one of those two Canon printers.

    Canon i9900
    Canon MX860

    I'd probably pick the printer with the most available supported drivers. Without actually installing the printers, how can I tell?
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  • From Ed Cryer@ed@somewhere.in.the.uk to comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Tue Feb 20 19:20:27 2024
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    Harry S Robins wrote:
    Today I saw two Canon printers at the thrift store but don't know how to
    tell if the printer drivers will be automatically installed and
    supported by Windows 10 update if I go back and get one of those two
    Canon printers.
    Canon i9900
    Canon MX860

    I'd probably pick the printer with the most available supported drivers. Without actually installing the printers, how can I tell?

    I would first use Google for a search.
    And I did just that.
    Lots of sites have drivers for both printers, including; https://tinyurl.com/25ggue6p
    https://tinyurl.com/2c427pvv

    Are the printers second-hand? If so, you need to check the hardware
    before available software.
    Are they going cheap? Cheap enough to justify paying for discontinued products? That's a subjective decision.

    Ed

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  • From Jan K.@janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com to comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Tue Feb 20 23:11:56 2024
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    W Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:20:27 +0000, Ed Cryer napisal:

    Lots of sites have drivers for both printers, including; https://tinyurl.com/25ggue6p
    https://tinyurl.com/2c427pvv

    Why are you pointing the user to those viruses-R-us sites?
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Wed Feb 21 02:20:55 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.periphs.printers

    On 2/20/2024 5:11 PM, Jan K. wrote:
    W Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:20:27 +0000, Ed Cryer napisal:

    Lots of sites have drivers for both printers, including;
    https://tinyurl.com/25ggue6p
    https://tinyurl.com/2c427pvv

    Why are you pointing the user to those viruses-R-us sites?

    Why are you so pre-occupied ? Windows 10 has drivers
    for stuff like this. It has an immense pile of drivers.

    https://tinyurl.com/preview/25ggue6p

    "https://tinyurl.com/25ggue6p

    Redirects to:

    https://www.driverscape.com/download/canon-i9900
    "

    https://tinyurl.com/preview/2c427pvv

    "https://tinyurl.com/2c427pvv

    Redirects to:

    https://www.driverguide.com/driver/download/Canon-PIXMA-MX860
    "

    You can look on "catalog" for evidence.

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=canon-i9900

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=mx860

    Someone ditched their i9900 in 2013 "because the inks were hard to find".
    Also, replacement printheads are expensive. How expensive would they
    be, ten years later ? This doesn't sound like a good deal particularly,
    except as a Smithsonian project.

    The Pixma 860 is from the year 2009.

    https://www.cnet.com/reviews/canon-pixma-mx860-mx860-review/

    Some people jettison printers after the teaser carts are empty,
    and that might be a better printer to pick up. Especially if
    the print head is part of the cart. New carts, cost as much
    as a whole printer... which is the whole idea of the business model.

    Most people would not even try to sell a teaser printer, because
    it's not really worth a dollar to anyone.

    The question boils down to "why are you buying material like this?".
    Even new, it's not a good deal for small-volume printing. Will
    you get your moneys worth from it ? Hard to say. It might be a
    false economy.

    If you are doing high volume printing, you find one of the
    tank-based printers. At least that is designed for printing,
    and is not a joke-in-a-box. A laser printer is an alternative.
    Modern (polymer) toner does not have an infinite shelf life, which
    also matters when "avoiding" the purchase of expired toner.
    Even the old toner did not have an infinite shelf life, yet
    it seemed to hold up pretty well.

    Paul
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  • From Harry S Robins@stanleyrobins@nothere.uk to comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Wed Feb 21 02:32:51 2024
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    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 02:20:55 -0500, Paul wrote:

    Someone ditched their i9900 in 2013 "because the inks were hard to find".

    Each comes with a huge box filled to the brim with unopened inks.

    You can look on "catalog" for evidence.

    What's the next step after I have the Microsoft "CAB" file format?

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=i9900 https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/ScopedViewInline.aspx?updateid=911196f4-a4a2-478a-839e-b2023ff36420
    Canon driver update for Canon Inkjet i9900
    Last Modified: 7/21/2006
    Size: 6.2 MB
    UpdateID: 911196f4-a4a2-478a-839e-b2023ff36420
    Company: Canon
    Driver Manufacturer: Canon
    Driver Class: Printers
    Driver Model: Canon Inkjet i9900
    Driver Provider: Canon
    Version: 6.1.7333.0
    Version Date: 7/21/2006
    Canon driver update for Canon Inkjet i9900
    Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, Windows 8.1 and later drivers,
    Windows Server 2012 R2 and later drivers
    Drivers (Printers), 7/20/2006, n/a, 6.2 MB
    911196f4-a4a2-478a-839e-b2023ff36420
    Canon driver update for Canon Inkjet i9900 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/driver/drvs/2012/08/200000012_5eeb1ef29faebb227c460cc7e8b2185cb3fc2f46.cab
    Name: 200000012_5eeb1ef29faebb227c460cc7e8b2185cb3fc2f46.cab
    Size: 6513422 bytes (6360 KiB)
    SHA256: BD9BAE2B6E6F63B8CDC53FC89EFB7E1993B524129E41F6705A38709904831D10

    http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=mx860 https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/ScopedViewInline.aspx?updateid=ba15a2e6-e213-42a7-a9bc-deebb2f1b483
    Canon - Printers - Canon MX860 series Printer
    Last Modified: 5/26/2009
    Size: 15.5 MB
    UpdateID: ba15a2e6-e213-42a7-a9bc-deebb2f1b483
    Company: Canon Inc.
    Driver Manufacturer: Canon
    Driver Class: Printers
    Driver Model: Canon MX860 series Printer
    Driver Provider: Canon
    Version: 2.27.2.10
    Version Date: 5/26/2009
    Canon - Printers - Canon MX860 series Printer
    Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and later drivers
    Drivers (Printers) 5/25/2009 n/a 16.0 MB 9ea5d053-46bd-41fe-b4c7-f754e02d685d https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/driver/drvs/2013/01/20276028_58f879d391811bfdf9f5935b4405b0790b601da8.cab
    Canon - Printers - Canon MX860 series Printer
    Name: 20276028_58f879d391811bfdf9f5935b4405b0790b601da8.cab
    Size: 16739941 bytes (15 MiB)
    SHA256: 6DBBA45D4812E2902E92D704F72AE49034DE29CAAE6B8EB8D68EBA4ADC955A29
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Wed Feb 21 07:16:46 2024
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    On 2/21/2024 3:32 AM, Harry S Robins wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 02:20:55 -0500, Paul wrote:

    Someone ditched their i9900 in 2013 "because the inks were hard to find".

    Each comes with a huge box filled to the brim with unopened inks.

    You can look on "catalog" for evidence.

    What's the next step after I have the Microsoft "CAB" file format?

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=i9900 https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/ScopedViewInline.aspx?updateid=911196f4-a4a2-478a-839e-b2023ff36420
    Canon driver update for Canon Inkjet i9900
    Last Modified: 7/21/2006
    Size: 6.2 MB
    UpdateID: 911196f4-a4a2-478a-839e-b2023ff36420
    Company: Canon
    Driver Manufacturer: Canon
    Driver Class: Printers
    Driver Model: Canon Inkjet i9900
    Driver Provider: Canon
    Version: 6.1.7333.0
    Version Date: 7/21/2006
    Canon driver update for Canon Inkjet i9900
    Windows 8, Windows Server 2012, Windows 8.1 and later drivers, Windows Server 2012 R2 and later drivers
    Drivers (Printers), 7/20/2006, n/a, 6.2 MB 911196f4-a4a2-478a-839e-b2023ff36420
    Canon driver update for Canon Inkjet i9900 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/driver/drvs/2012/08/200000012_5eeb1ef29faebb227c460cc7e8b2185cb3fc2f46.cab
    Name: 200000012_5eeb1ef29faebb227c460cc7e8b2185cb3fc2f46.cab
    Size: 6513422 bytes (6360 KiB)
    SHA256: BD9BAE2B6E6F63B8CDC53FC89EFB7E1993B524129E41F6705A38709904831D10

    http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=mx860 https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/ScopedViewInline.aspx?updateid=ba15a2e6-e213-42a7-a9bc-deebb2f1b483
    Canon - Printers - Canon MX860 series Printer
    Last Modified: 5/26/2009
    Size: 15.5 MB
    UpdateID: ba15a2e6-e213-42a7-a9bc-deebb2f1b483
    Company: Canon Inc.
    Driver Manufacturer: Canon
    Driver Class: Printers
    Driver Model: Canon MX860 series Printer
    Driver Provider: Canon
    Version: 2.27.2.10
    Version Date: 5/26/2009
    Canon - Printers - Canon MX860 series Printer-a-a-a
    Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and later drivers
    Drivers (Printers)-a-a-a 5/25/2009-a-a-a n/a-a-a-a 16.0 MB 9ea5d053-46bd-41fe-b4c7-f754e02d685d https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/driver/drvs/2013/01/20276028_58f879d391811bfdf9f5935b4405b0790b601da8.cab
    Canon - Printers - Canon MX860 series Printer
    Name: 20276028_58f879d391811bfdf9f5935b4405b0790b601da8.cab
    Size: 16739941 bytes (15 MiB)
    SHA256: 6DBBA45D4812E2902E92D704F72AE49034DE29CAAE6B8EB8D68EBA4ADC955A29

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-install-cab-file-in-windows-10/8b0140f8-ff43-4e5a-a34a-71c47ca688f0

    administrative Command Prompt.

    dism /online /add-package /packagepath:"C:\users\username\downloads\some.cab"

    I do not know what to do, when one of the catalog entries has a massive
    number of cabs :-) There will always be something in that bloody Catalog
    thing, that is a complete mystery. My speed is more the downloading of .msu which is the self installer. When the .msu won't install, it might mean
    a servicing stack update (SSU) is missing on the system. Googling the
    KB number perhaps, along with Servicing Stack Update as keywords, may
    uncover an article where someone identifies the thing needed.

    Since DISM did not always exist on the OS, there is some other recipe
    for older OSes and CAB files.

    Paul
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  • From Tim Slattery@TimSlattery@utexas.edu to comp.periphs.printers,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.microsoft.windows on Wed Feb 21 11:35:54 2024
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    Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk> wrote:

    Today I saw two Canon printers at the thrift store but don't know how to
    tell if the printer drivers will be automatically installed and supported
    by Windows 10 update if I go back and get one of those two Canon printers.

    Canon i9900
    Canon MX860

    I'd probably pick the printer with the most available supported drivers. >Without actually installing the printers, how can I tell?

    Have you checked the Canon site for those drivers? They will very
    likely be there.
    --
    Tim Slattery
    timslattery <at> utexas <dot> edu
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