Also, those other operating systems are far happier to document a wider
range of potential issues with a CVE. For example, should the recent
P1 DCL patch have been assigned its own CVE ? I honestly don't know, but
the fact it was a P1 got my attention.
One thing I did not see you cover (but I may have missed it) is the increasing unease here in Europe with relying on US vendors and the increasing perception that the US is becoming very untrustworthy.
If it becomes a perception problem, then VSI just have to present
themselves as a Swedish owned company with leadership (CEO and
chairman) based in Denmark.
On Fri, 29 May 2026 15:25:45 -0400, Arne Vajh|+j wrote:
If it becomes a perception problem, then VSI just have to present
themselves as a Swedish owned company with leadership (CEO and
chairman) based in Denmark.
The US Government was able to exert political pressure on ASML, a
Dutch company, to stop it selling chip-making gear to China, on the
basis that the technology was originally developed in the US or
something.
WhatrCOs to stop them doing the same thing to Denmark or Sweden?
Dear friends of VMS,
We want to thank all those who managed to attend the last webinar rCLRendez-vous autour de VMSrCY organized by the French VMSgenerations user group on March 26th.
The rendez-vous focused on a lot of aspects for continuity in our VMS ecosystem (use of emulators, coping with (old) security functions, role
of partners, etc). And, as usual, our understanding of the news.
The session report (French and English), presentations & questions are available on https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/rendez-vous-autour-de-vms-du-26-mars-2026/
The VMSgenerations board
For any question or comment you can reach us at contact@vmsgenerations.fr
On 30/05/2026 2:38 am, VMSgenerations wrote:
We want to thank all those who managed to attend the last webinar
rCLRendez-vous autour de VMSrCY organized by the French VMSgenerations user >> group on March 26th.
The rendez-vous focused on a lot of aspects for continuity in our VMS
ecosystem (use of emulators, coping with (old) security functions, role
of partners, etc). And, as usual, our understanding of the news.
The session report (French and English), presentations & questions are
available on
https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/rendez-vous-autour-de-vms-du-26-mars-2026/
Has the Academie Franglais finished the English translations of the presentations yet?
As always, I am a "Mr Magoo" at website navigation.
I think the most widely known case is when Microsoft cut the email
service for the ICC prosecutor.
On 5/29/2026 9:13 PM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
On 30/05/2026 2:38 am, VMSgenerations wrote:
We want to thank all those who managed to attend the last webinar
rCLRendez-vous autour de VMSrCY organized by the French VMSgenerations user >>> group on March 26th.
The rendez-vous focused on a lot of aspects for continuity in our VMS
ecosystem (use of emulators, coping with (old) security functions, role
of partners, etc). And, as usual, our understanding of the news.
The session report (French and English), presentations & questions are
available on
https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/rendez-vous-autour-de-vms-du-26-mars-2026/
Has the Academie Franglais finished the English translations of the
presentations yet?
As always, I am a "Mr Magoo" at website navigation.
"Webinar detailed report" points to:
https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/20260326-cr-EN/
Arne
One thing I did not see you cover (but I may have missed it) is the increasing unease here in Europe with relying on US vendors and the increasing perception that the US is becoming very untrustworthy.
On Fri, 29 May 2026 15:25:45 -0400, Arne Vajh|+j wrote:
If it becomes a perception problem, then VSI just have to present
themselves as a Swedish owned company with leadership (CEO and
chairman) based in Denmark.
The US Government was able to exert political pressure on ASML, a
Dutch company, to stop it selling chip-making gear to China, on the
basis that the technology was originally developed in the US or
something.
WhatrCOs to stop them doing the same thing to Denmark or Sweden?
On 30/05/2026 11:43 am, Arne Vajh|+j wrote:Cher Ma|<tre,
On 5/29/2026 9:13 PM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
On 30/05/2026 2:38 am, VMSgenerations wrote:
We want to thank all those who managed to attend the last webinarHas the Academie Franglais finished the English translations of the
rCLRendez-vous autour de VMSrCY organized by the French VMSgenerations user
group on March 26th.
The rendez-vous focused on a lot of aspects for continuity in our VMS
ecosystem (use of emulators, coping with (old) security functions, role >>>> of partners, etc). And, as usual, our understanding of the news.
The session report (French and English), presentations & questions are >>>> available on
https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/rendez-vous-autour-de-vms-du-26-mars-2026/ >>
presentations yet?
As always, I am a "Mr Magoo" at website navigation.
"Webinar detailed report" points to:
https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/20260326-cr-EN/
Arne
Merci meacupou. :-)
On 5/29/2026 3:01 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
One thing I did not see you cover (but I may have missed it) is the
increasing unease here in Europe with relying on US vendors and the
increasing perception that the US is becoming very untrustworthy.
From a practical perspective this is mostly relevant for cloud services
not for product sales. US courts and/or US administration can order a US company to hand over data residing on the US company's servers or stop services provided from the the US company's servers. There is not
much they can order VSI to do for a VMS customer running VMS on a
non-US owned server.
If it becomes a perception problem, then VSI just have to present
themselves as a Swedish owned company with leadership (CEO and chairman) based in Denmark.
Arne
On 5/29/2026 3:01 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
Also, those other operating systems are far happier to document a wider
range of potential issues with a CVE. For example, should the recent
P1 DCL patch have been assigned its own CVE ? I honestly don't know, but
the fact it was a P1 got my attention.
Release notes and VSI CVE page has a CVE number for it.
CVE-2026-41112 rated at 8.5.
I cannot find it in the big CVE databases though. So maybe
VSI just got the CVE number but never send the details back.
On 5/29/2026 3:01 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
One thing I did not see you cover (but I may have missed it) is the
increasing unease here in Europe with relying on US vendors and the
increasing perception that the US is becoming very untrustworthy.
From a practical perspective this is mostly relevant for cloud services
not for product sales. US courts and/or US administration can order a US company to hand over data residing on the US company's servers or stop services provided from the the US company's servers. There is not
much they can order VSI to do for a VMS customer running VMS on a
non-US owned server.
If it becomes a perception problem, then VSI just have to present
themselves as a Swedish owned company with leadership (CEO and chairman) based in Denmark.
Arne Vajh|+j explained :
On 5/29/2026 3:01 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
One thing I did not see you cover (but I may have missed it) is the
increasing unease here in Europe with relying on US vendors and the
increasing perception that the US is becoming very untrustworthy.
-aFrom a practical perspective this is mostly relevant for cloud services
not for product sales. US courts and/or US administration can order a US
company to hand over data residing on the US company's servers or stop
services provided from the the US company's servers. There is not
much they can order VSI to do for a VMS customer running VMS on a
non-US owned server.
If it becomes a perception problem, then VSI just have to present
themselves as a Swedish owned company with leadership (CEO and chairman)
based in Denmark.
Aren't the OpenVMS licenses issued by VSI limited in time ? What if the current administration puts a ban on their renewal ?
On 5/29/2026 3:01 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
One thing I did not see you cover (but I may have missed it) is the
increasing unease here in Europe with relying on US vendors and the
increasing perception that the US is becoming very untrustworthy.
Simon, have faith.
November 2026 is coming ...
2028 is coming ...
I'm looking forward to getting rid of that ego so big it forms it's own gravitational field ...
Again there is a de facto difference between individual organizations
in "US friendly" countries and long term potential enemy countries.
I will assume that VSI already today are blocked from selling
VMS licenses to Iran and North Korea etc. and have been so like
forever. Just like DEC 40 years ago could not sell VAX and VMS to
Soviets and allied countries. That is not new.
On 2026-05-30, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
On 5/29/2026 3:01 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
One thing I did not see you cover (but I may have missed it) is the
increasing unease here in Europe with relying on US vendors and the
increasing perception that the US is becoming very untrustworthy.
Simon, have faith.
November 2026 is coming ...
2028 is coming ...
I'm looking forward to getting rid of that ego so big it forms it's own
gravitational field ...
Unfortunately, this is about more that just one person, but is about
the development of a very alarming culture and mindset. The current >figurehead[*] of that culture will be gone in 3 years but there are
others waiting to replace him.
The scary thing is that those people are likely to be more capable
and reasonable sounding and will have learnt to hide their real goals
better. (And less likely to be clueless figureheads).
[*] Figurehead is the correct word here. Some of what is going on is
his doing. Some of it is others, while selling it as "a good thing"
or "guiding" him towards a course of action.
Again there is a de facto difference between individual
organizations in "US friendly" countries and long term potential
enemy countries.
On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 09:00:14 -0400, Arne Vajh|+j wrote:
Again there is a de facto difference between individual
organizations in "US friendly" countries and long term potential
enemy countries.
Given that the US President just threatened, in an offhand remark, to
blow up US ally Oman, I'm not sure that "US friendly" means as much as
it once did ...
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 09:00:14 -0400, Arne Vajh|+j wrote:
Again there is a de facto difference between individual
organizations in "US friendly" countries and long term potential
enemy countries.
Given that the US President just threatened, in an offhand remark, to
blow up US ally Oman, I'm not sure that "US friendly" means as much as
it once did ...
Granted, but he threatened to blow up California too, so it's not like
he is taking sides here.
--scott
Then Trump came along, lied incessently about the 2020 election,
tried to start a coup (but failed), and somehow (that I still
don't understand, and likely never will) he was elected again in
2024. He immediately pardoned all of the deluded idiots who
tried to overthrow the government on his behalf the first time
around, and now he's trying to _pay_ them; at the same time, he
is making noises about a "third term": something that is
constitutionally prohibited. But the message is clear: if "his
people" show up and help keep him in power, he'll shield them
from the consequences, no matter what those are.
I'm just waiting for him to threaten to invade Norway because the Nobel >committee don't give him the Nobel Peace Prize this year (or at least
I hope they don't). :-(
Given what happened last year, I have visions of him threatening the
Storting (the Norwegian parliament) until they replace the committee
members with people who will vote for him. Given what happened last
year and given what also happened in the US (the Kennedy Center fiasco)
I wish I was joking.
Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
I'm just waiting for him to threaten to invade Norway because the Nobel
committee don't give him the Nobel Peace Prize this year (or at least
I hope they don't). :-(
Does he realize that the Nobel Peace Prize even comes from Norway? I think he would be more likely to threaten Sweden under the misapprehension that it's like all the other Nobels.
I did visit the Nobel Prize Museum this spring, and they did not have an exhibit of "People Who Did Not Win Nobel Prizes" with a big picture of
Trump. This indicates to me that they are much more polite people than I would be.
Dear friends of VMS,
We want to thank all those who managed to attend the last webinar ?Rendez-vous autour de VMS? organized by the French VMSgenerations user group on March 26th.
The rendez-vous focused on a lot of aspects for continuity in our VMS ecosystem (use of emulators, coping with (old) security functions, role
of partners, etc). And, as usual, our understanding of the news.
The session report (French and English), presentations & questions are available on https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/rendez-vous-autour-de-vms-du-26-mars-2026/
Has the Academie Franglais finished the English translations of the
presentations yet?
As always, I am a "Mr Magoo" at website navigation.
"Webinar detailed report" points to:
https://www.vmsgenerations.fr/20260326-cr-EN/
Arne
Merci meacupou. :-)
Cher Ma|<tre,
The power-points are not translated. But there are beautifull images.
(French are still dreaming about a future on VMS)
C'est un honneur que d'|-tre lu par un (sub)commandante :)
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