• Re: VAX-11/780 up and running at LSSM

    From Dave McGuire@mcguire@lssmuseum.org to Simon Clubley on Tue Dec 2 12:15:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.vms

    On 12/1/25 08:10, Simon Clubley wrote:
    Hi folks, I thought some here might be interested to hear that we at
    the Large Scale Systems Museum have gotten our VAX-11/780 to the point
    where it will boot VMS. We fixed a list of hardware issues as long as
    my arm, but it runs, and it runs great.


    Congratulations.

    Thanks!

    BTW, how many sales reps have the local power company
    assigned to you ?

    They used to send us christmas cards, now they send us fruit baskets.

    I wish I was kidding.

    Thank heaven for supportive donors. (we are a donor-funded 501(c)(3) nonprofit)

    -Dave
    --
    Dave McGuire, President/Curator
    Large Scale Systems Museum
    New Kensington, PA
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  • From Johnny Billquist@bqt@softjar.se to comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec on Wed Dec 3 13:25:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.vms

    On 2025-12-01 03:56, Dave McGuire wrote:
    On 11/29/25 18:42, Arne Vajh|+j wrote:
    -a-a Hi folks, I thought some here might be interested to hear that we at >>>> the Large Scale Systems Museum have gotten our VAX-11/780 to the point >>>> where it will boot VMS.-a We fixed a list of hardware issues as long as >>>> my arm, but it runs, and it runs great.

    -a-a Next on the list for that machine is the addition of a DEUNA
    Ethernet
    controller and a permanent system disk.-a (For our final testing we
    borrowed the VMS v4.7 system disk, an RA90, from our VAX-11/750.)

    What's the last version of VMS that can run on that machine?-a I may have >>> a Multinet kit for it but I think I gave my DEUNAs both away.

    According to some sources on the internet then 6.2 was last.

    Which is "sort of recent" in VAX world.

    -a The last supported release on the 780 is 6.2, but I'd bet 7.3 would run.-a I base that on the fact that we ran 7.3 on our VAX-11/750 a few
    years ago, and the last supported release for that is also 6.2.

    I think the reason for the "last supported version" was that after that
    DEC didn't have any running machines still around to test on, so they
    couldn't say for sure it was fine. The oldest hardware that was still officially supported by the last release of VMS on VAX (V7.3) was the
    86x0, if I remember right.

    Johnny

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  • From chrisq@syseng@gfsys.co.uk to comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec on Fri Dec 5 16:22:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.vms

    On 12/2/25 17:15, Dave McGuire wrote:
    On 12/1/25 08:10, Simon Clubley wrote:
    -a-a-a Hi folks, I thought some here might be interested to hear that we at >>> the Large Scale Systems Museum have gotten our VAX-11/780 to the point
    where it will boot VMS.-a We fixed a list of hardware issues as long as
    my arm, but it runs, and it runs great.


    Congratulations.

    -a Thanks!

    BTW, how many sales reps have the local power company
    assigned to you ?

    -a They used to send us christmas cards, now they send us fruit baskets.

    -a I wish I was kidding.

    -a Thank heaven for supportive donors. (we are a donor-funded 501(c)(3) nonprofit)

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a -Dave


    From memory, around 6.9 Kilowatts, 3 phase, for just the cpu
    and no peripherals or storage etc. Would make a great lab heater.

    Chris

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  • From Dave McGuire@mcguire@lssmuseum.org to chrisq on Sat Dec 6 11:01:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.vms

    On 12/5/25 11:22, chrisq wrote:
    -a-a-a Hi folks, I thought some here might be interested to hear that >>>> we at
    the Large Scale Systems Museum have gotten our VAX-11/780 to the point >>>> where it will boot VMS.-a We fixed a list of hardware issues as long as >>>> my arm, but it runs, and it runs great.


    Congratulations.

    -a-a Thanks!

    BTW, how many sales reps have the local power company
    assigned to you ?

    -a-a They used to send us christmas cards, now they send us fruit baskets. >>
    -a-a I wish I was kidding.

    -a-a Thank heaven for supportive donors. (we are a donor-funded 501(c)
    (3) nonprofit)

    From memory, around 6.9 Kilowatts, 3 phase, for just the cpu
    and no peripherals or storage etc. Would make a great lab heater.
    Nothing of note internally is 3-phase; ours is running on
    single-phase. A LOT of it. We can definitely tell when it's powered
    up. :-)

    -Dave
    --
    Dave McGuire, President/Curator
    Large Scale Systems Museum
    New Kensington, PA
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  • From Stephen Hoffman@seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid to comp.os.vms on Thu Dec 11 11:52:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.vms

    On 2025-12-01 01:21:59 +0000, Arne Vajh|+j said:

    On 11/30/2025 7:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    In article <10gd7ig$6g5c$1@mail.neurotica.com>,
    Dave McGuire <mcguire@lssmuseum.org> wrote:
    Hi folks, I thought some here might be interested to hear that we at
    the Large Scale Systems Museum have gotten our VAX-11/780 to the point >>>> where it will boot VMS. We fixed a list of hardware issues as long as >>>> my arm, but it runs, and it runs great.

    Next on the list for that machine is the addition of a DEUNA Ethernet
    controller and a permanent system disk. (For our final testing we
    borrowed the VMS v4.7 system disk, an RA90, from our VAX-11/750.)

    What's the last version of VMS that can run on that machine? I may have >>> a Multinet kit for it but I think I gave my DEUNAs both away.

    We ran 7.3 on our 11/780-5 (a field upgraded 780) at Living Computers.

    I don't think DEC/CPQ/HPE would have supported it.

    VMS 7.1 SPD state:

    <quote>
    VMS V5.1 was the final version to support the
    VAX-11/725.

    OpenVMS VAX Version 6.2 was the final version to sup-
    port the following:
    VAX-11/730
    VAX-11/750
    VAX-11/751
    VAX-11/780
    VAX-11/782
    VAX-11/785
    </quote>

    But if it runs then it runs.

    And both 6.2 and 7.3 are generally out of support and has been
    so for many years anyway.

    Arne

    Having been directly involved in researching and writing that
    particular SPD text, the removal of VAX/VMS and OpenVMS VAX support for
    those VAX systems was promulgated for two reasons:

    1: no supported optical media devices on those VAX models, and no
    InfoServer boot, and no media; no then-available TK50, 9 track magtape,
    RC25, or other supported boot media at the Digital Equipment
    Corporation (DEC) Software Distribution Center (SDC) / Software Supply Business (SSB),

    2: no then-working VAX ystems to test and troubleshoot with, so
    software support was going to be difficult or intractable for any platform-specific issues.

    DEC could no longer source quantities of blank TK50 or older supported
    media for those installs and upgrades.

    Which meant those VAX systems need entirely-feasible but less than
    easily supported shenanigans for performing OpenVMS VAX installations
    and upgrades.

    Nothing was done to OpenVMS VAX to prevent those VAX systems from
    booting, and OpenVMS VAX V7.3 will boot and work just fine rCo assuming sufficient main memory available, and assuming a system manager / admin knowledgable in shuffing OpenVMS VAX installers around and with some
    spare / swappable storage ardware.
    --
    Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC

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