• Re: Time for a new wifi router to improve my far away wifi areas?

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.os.linux.networking on Fri Nov 27 15:14:45 2020
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    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/11/2020 22.23, Gobbling Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    I'm trying to fix my far away wifi issue that is weak, slow, unstable, and not connecting in the mostly one floor home. Currently, I use an old Netgear R6300 v1 from 2012 or so. It works great in close by rooms, but not far away rooms like the kitchen, family, garage, laundry, guest, etc.

    Look for a router or access point with MIMO. Three aerials. They can
    beam the radio in the direction of the gadget you are using, thus
    increasing range and "speed".

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO>

    Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 Desktop WiFi Range Extender (EX7000-100NAS; AC1900) had three aerial
    sticks which didn't help even after adjusting. I used to have an old Linksys WRT54GL v1.1
    router with two aerial sticks, and that was worse before Netgear R6300 v1.0 router.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.networking on Fri Nov 27 23:30:58 2020
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    On 27/11/2020 22.14, Ant wrote:
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/11/2020 22.23, Gobbling Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    I'm trying to fix my far away wifi issue that is weak, slow, unstable, and not connecting in the mostly one floor home. Currently, I use an old Netgear R6300 v1 from 2012 or so. It works great in close by rooms, but not far away rooms like the kitchen, family, garage, laundry, guest, etc.

    Look for a router or access point with MIMO. Three aerials. They can
    beam the radio in the direction of the gadget you are using, thus
    increasing range and "speed".

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO>

    Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 Desktop WiFi Range Extender (EX7000-100NAS; AC1900) had three aerial
    sticks which didn't help even after adjusting. I used to have an old Linksys WRT54GL v1.1
    router with two aerial sticks, and that was worse before Netgear R6300 v1.0 router.

    By "range extender" you mean something that is not connected by Ethernet
    to your network? That sort of thing is never going to work fine.

    Of course, not only your router needs to be powerful enough, your
    portable devices need also to be powerful enough.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.networking on Sat Nov 28 05:04:04 2020
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    On 28/11/2020 02.01, Ant wrote:
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 27/11/2020 22.14, Ant wrote:
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/11/2020 22.23, Gobbling Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    I'm trying to fix my far away wifi issue that is weak, slow, unstable, and not connecting in the mostly one floor home. Currently, I use an old Netgear R6300 v1 from 2012 or so. It works great in close by rooms, but not far away rooms like the kitchen, family, garage, laundry, guest, etc.

    Look for a router or access point with MIMO. Three aerials. They can
    beam the radio in the direction of the gadget you are using, thus
    increasing range and "speed".

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO>

    Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 Desktop WiFi Range Extender (EX7000-100NAS; AC1900) had three aerial
    sticks which didn't help even after adjusting. I used to have an old Linksys WRT54GL v1.1
    router with two aerial sticks, and that was worse before Netgear R6300 v1.0 router.

    By "range extender" you mean something that is not connected by Ethernet
    to your network? That sort of thing is never going to work fine.

    Correct. Both extenders were like that.


    Of course, not only your router needs to be powerful enough, your
    portable devices need also to be powerful enough.

    Many portable wifi devices (e.g., iPhone 4S and 6+, iPad Air, MacBook Pros from 2012 and
    2008), etc. are old.

    Then what would probably work is two (or more if needed) good access
    points, connected by cable, in different points of the house, so that
    all rooms get good signal.
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    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.os.linux.networking on Sat Nov 28 01:25:32 2020
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    Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> wrote:
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    On 11/26/20 1:23 PM, Gobbling Ant wrote:

    I tried two different wifi extenders (Linksys RE4000W N600 Dual-Band Wireless Range Extender and Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 Desktop WiFi Range Extender (EX7000-100NAS; AC1900) -- both have updated stock firmwares) to match the old router's wifi two (regular + guest WAPs) SSIDs, but they were unstable, not connecting, slow, etc. Many times, I had to physically reboot the extenders to fix the issues. I already tried changing their channels to avoid conflicts with neighbors, Arlo's base stations, etc. but they didn't help much. I don't know if getting another extender again would help after two different ones over the years. Maybe I need a new wifi router (will a mesh type be better?) since it's old?

    Why? Why are you spending money on extenders to extend the range of an
    old turd of a router? C'mon.. Spend the money on a new router. WiFi
    tech has increased massively in the last 8 years. We've got all sorts of
    new MIMO and beamforming capabilities. Hell, you don't have to spend
    more than $28 to get MIMO. So why waste money on extending the range of
    an ancient piece-of-shit (no offense)?

    Hence, why I am thinking of getting a new router since it's old. What's
    a good one? Someone told me to look into mesh types like Netgear Orbi,
    Amazon eero, Google Nest, etc. However, they don't meet my requirements
    so far.
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  • From Scott Hemphill@hemphill@hemphills.net to comp.os.linux.networking on Sat Nov 28 11:44:07 2020
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    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

    On 27/11/2020 22.14, Ant wrote:
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/11/2020 22.23, Gobbling Ant wrote:
    Hello.

    I'm trying to fix my far away wifi issue that is weak, slow,
    unstable, and not connecting in the mostly one floor
    home. Currently, I use an old Netgear R6300 v1 from 2012 or so. It
    works great in close by rooms, but not far away rooms like the
    kitchen, family, garage, laundry, guest, etc.

    Look for a router or access point with MIMO. Three aerials. They can
    beam the radio in the direction of the gadget you are using, thus
    increasing range and "speed".

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO>

    Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 Desktop WiFi Range Extender (EX7000-100NAS;
    AC1900) had three aerial
    sticks which didn't help even after adjusting. I used to have an old
    Linksys WRT54GL v1.1
    router with two aerial sticks, and that was worse before Netgear
    R6300 v1.0 router.

    By "range extender" you mean something that is not connected by Ethernet
    to your network? That sort of thing is never going to work fine.

    My mileage varies. My eero Pros do quite well. It is a mesh network
    which operates on the standard 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands, with an additional
    5GHz band which it uses for a backhaul. Not only do I get great speed
    in every corner of the house, I also have no trouble carrying a device
    (that knows how to roam) from one corner to another with a running
    application. It is easy to set up and manage with a cell phone app.

    Scott
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.os.linux.networking on Sat Nov 28 15:18:18 2020
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    Johann Beretta <beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com> wrote:
    ...
    Whatever you do end up getting, unless you need the bandwidth provided
    by the default 80MHz wide signal, please narrow it down. ORBIs are, by default, bandwidth wasting pieces of shit. Few people actually have 1
    GBPS connections but ORBIs are set to an 80MHz wide signal that simply pollutes the local wireless spectrum.

    My cable is about 200 Mb/sec download and 10 Mb/sec upload. I hope
    Netgear Orbi are customizable to my needs. I was reading their PDF
    manuals overnight and they seem to have stuff I want like network ports,
    guest WAP, web access, etc. Now, I just need to pick a model:

    1. Pro AC3000 Tri-Band Whole Home Wi-Fi System (2-pack; 5K sq. ft) [SRK60 / SRK60100NAS]
    2. AX6000 Mesh WiFi 6 System (newer; up 60+ devices)
    3. Whole Home Mesh WiFi 6 System with Advanced Cyber Security, 3-pack (RBK753S-100NAS; older; 7,500 sq. ft.)
    4. I doubt I will get RBK50 = 802.11ac (oldest -- can use web or app to setup; go up to 5K sq. ft.; 1 satellite).
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  • From Johann Beretta@beretta@nun-ya-bizness.com to comp.os.linux.networking on Fri Nov 27 22:40:16 2020
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    On 11/26/20 1:23 PM, Gobbling Ant wrote:

    I tried two different wifi extenders (Linksys RE4000W N600 Dual-Band Wi=
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    unstable, not connecting, slow, etc. Many times, I had to physically reb=
    oot the extenders to fix the issues. I already tried changing their chann=
    els to avoid conflicts with neighbors, Arlo's base stations, etc. but the=
    y didn't help much. I don't know if getting another extender again would =
    help after two different ones over the years. Maybe I need a new wifi rou=
    ter (will a mesh type be better?) since it's old?

    Why? Why are you spending money on extenders to extend the range of an
    old turd of a router? C'mon.. Spend the money on a new router. WiFi
    tech has increased massively in the last 8 years. We've got all sorts of
    new MIMO and beamforming capabilities. Hell, you don't have to spend
    more than $28 to get MIMO. So why waste money on extending the range of
    an ancient piece-of-shit (no offense)?



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