• Micro-Review "ATT Home-Advanced" System

    From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Sep 24 01:42:09 2026
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    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was
    not interested in fixing them. They HATE copper.
    ANY excuse to dump it.

    Fiber ... well ... they ain't gonna because my old
    wire is wrapped in dense vines that intertwine with
    my power transformer and the utility is NOT interested
    in dealing with that despite the friendly BS on
    their web site. Electrocution hazard. My house is not
    very friendly to new cables either - concrete and
    real wood and uncertain electric routing.

    SO ... got talked into buying a "Phone Advanced"
    system.

    This is basically a tower-like cell-phone ...
    except it has plugs on the back for the old
    hardwire devices/phones. You can buy up to
    ten 'lines' and plug whatever into them. It
    is more meant for an existing 'business'.

    First off ... despite big antennas ... the cell
    sensitivity is terrible.

    My place IS in a sort of dead zone already - not
    many bars even outdoors. The concrete and metal
    roof don't improve this. Even thus, my cheepo
    flip phone gets at least one more bar.

    The tech, good guy, got it working ... but
    kept cycling slowly between two bars and
    NO bars. Kept moving the thing around until
    I found a convenient spot with an (almost)
    steady ONE bar. It'll all stay there for now.
    Works, barely.

    DOES work with my old inline answer device.
    This is great. Nice easy buttons, no "star"
    codes or similar BS. Ordered a spare device.
    Yep, still sold.

    No, they're NOT gonna add cell towers just
    because I ask.

    STILL haven't completely figured out how to
    create a new online acct management site
    so I can PAY them. You'd think they'd make
    THAT easy. Not.

    There's also supposed to be an "online
    device-set portal". Even the tech was
    not sure what THAT was. The theory is
    a page where you can see/set every option.

    HAVE considered buying an evil 'smartphone'
    as a sort of third number that'll also do
    some of the tricks/apps they want. I'd
    mostly leave it on the counter. HOWEVER
    it'd be a good excuse to get the store
    people to setup and combine my accounts
    and 100% kill the old landline shit.

    NO Apple ! Android !

    Provider became unaccessible online the
    past few weeks. Tapped the reset button
    on my 5G router. NOW they want some very
    annoying 'shadow match' "captchas". Not
    as easy being 70-ish as when I was a teen.

    There's also the un-usable 'audio challenge'
    with synth "animal noises". Sorry, NOT
    familiar with some of the species. The AIs
    will be trained to do 'em better than me
    within a month or two anyway .....

    Disabilities Act lawsuits ... gotta shop
    around for lawyers and class-actions .....
    something very DIFFERENT needed for the
    over-50 crowd.

    ANYway ... kinda STUCK with this for awhile.
    My old hardline phone # is still important
    to have, some biz and govt and relatives
    have just THAT number for contact. Ok,
    90% of my calls are scams/surveys/come-ons,
    but still .......

    OWN a 'cell booster' device. Technically you
    are supposed to get 'permission' - wouldn't,
    doubt anyone does. But it still requires
    attaching a kind of substantial outdoor
    antenna - too old for ladders now - and
    there's advice on how close/where to put
    the repeater unit. But, even ONE bar gain
    would be well WORTH it.

    WireLESS seem to be the future. Alas they
    are selling it before enough infrastructure
    exists.

    Anyway, the device - IF you have the coverage -
    does work. You can add up to 10 "lines" and
    there's a plug for each. FAX machine (they DO
    still have their uses), add a line. Can attach
    a wireless home phone system too so you can
    have units here and there. DO demand caller-ID
    and the answer device inline though ... GOTTA
    screen these days. "PLEASE LEAVE A MESSAGE
    AFTER THE TONE" scares off most.

    In theory you can link it with yer WAN. NO
    info on how to set any needed access passwords.
    Manual sez if the cell conn drops it will then
    use yer WAN device for connection. No good
    details on all that at all.

    DO have a all-in-one printer though that WILL
    send FAXes, but I'd need to buy another 'line'
    and have NO good idea how to route the wire.
    Sorry, OLD, no more crawling in attics - they'd
    find me dead and mummified up there :-)

    Now, finally, gonna price StarLink internet.
    Seems pretty good - though antenna placement
    will be a bit of a pain where I live. Way
    too many veggies. WOULD have to weld-up a
    custom wall mount. Screw it to the roof
    on a tripod ? NO ! 100+ MPH winds ARE
    possible here and even the 'small' StarLink
    antennas are kind of a 'sail'. Steel into
    concrete, full support frame !

    Oops ! "Micro-review" got bigger, sorry ! :-)
    Anyway, "modern realities". Kinda suck.

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Sep 24 10:33:51 2026
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    c186282 wrote:

    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was not interested in
    fixing them. They HATE copper. ANY excuse to dump it.

    The minute that BT offers to swap my copper for fibre, I'll snap their
    arm off. They were repairing the duct outside my house until 9pm last
    night, so hopefully we're getting close now ...
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Sep 24 11:43:16 2026
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    On 24/09/2026 06:42, c186282 wrote:
    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was
    not interested in fixing them. They HATE copper.
    ANY excuse to dump it.

    Not exactly surprising

    Fiber ... well ... they ain't gonna because my old
    wire is wrapped in dense vines that intertwine with
    my power transformer and the utility is NOT interested
    in dealing with that despite the friendly BS on
    their web site. Electrocution hazard. My house is not
    very friendly to new cables either - concrete and
    real wood and uncertain electric routing.

    I fail to see how that affects fibre deployment

    All they need to do is place a fibre to your premises and provide some
    form of termination kit on it inside the house at some point that needs
    power and is equipped with Ethernet.

    No wires beyond that are involved

    Fibre is quite easy to place on new poles, or underground, depending on
    which works well

    Using cellular technology for internet is at best a temporary bodge.

    You would be better off with Skylink
    --
    rCLProgress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,rCY

    rCo Ludwig von Mises

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Sep 24 11:53:03 2026
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    On 24/09/2026 10:33, Andy Burns wrote:

    c186282 wrote:

    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was not interested in
    fixing them. They HATE copper. ANY excuse to dump it.

    The minute that BT offers to swap my copper for fibre, I'll snap their
    arm off.-a They were repairing the duct outside my house until 9pm last night, so hopefully we're getting close now ...

    Precisely. It was during Covid lock-down that I noticed all these vans
    and diggers and stuff.

    When I asked them 'what are you doing?' and they said 'laying fibre
    ducts for BT Openreach' I was onto my ISP immediately. I had to wait a
    couple of months before they said 'yes' we can connect you' and that was
    that.

    What has really made a difference is not the speed. It is the pure reliability. Yes now and again a route flap will stop internet for a few
    tens of seconds but my link to the ISP itself has NEVER failed.

    I could manage on my DSL speeds = 1Mbps up and around 5Mbps down. I am
    about ten times as fast now, which is handy when doing Linux upgrades
    but really its the reliability that scores.

    In the UK high speed broadband for [almost] all was made a target for
    the fibre people to achieve, and they got government assistance to help
    do it.

    Because it was deemed a strategic policy, in the same way that roads
    are. A 'have to have' to actually engage with the modern world.

    I have no idea why the USA would want tp lag behind the rest of the
    world so much, beyond the usual belief that the USA is the best of all possible shitholes and therefore nothing needs doing (done?)
    --
    There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale
    returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.

    Mark Twain

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  • From Rich@rich@example.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Sep 25 03:43:10 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    What has really made a difference is not the speed. It is the pure reliability. Yes now and again a route flap will stop internet for a few tens of seconds but my link to the ISP itself has NEVER failed.

    Well, the additional speed *is* nice....

    But agreed, the reliability is night and day above DSL. My FIOS has
    only gone out once, and that turned out to have been caused by a
    Verizon tech disconnecting the wrong fiber bundle in some "box"
    on a pole somewhere several blocks away.

    My old DSL links, every single one of them, the DSL modem needed to be rebooted about once every few days in order for the link to remain up.
    For the 3com modems that were supplied, that had serial console ports externally accessible, I setup a cron job to reboot the damn things
    every night about 3am, just to keep the link stable.

    When the ISP upgraded to some newer DSL modem without a serial console
    port externally accessible, a "lights timer" set to power cycle the
    thing once a day cured the issue again.

    But the FIOS, it's just always on.

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  • From Rich@rich@example.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Sep 25 03:50:44 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 24/09/2026 06:42, c186282 wrote:
    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was
    not interested in fixing them. They HATE copper.
    ANY excuse to dump it.

    Not exactly surprising

    It's the end result of the US FCC allowing the local "bells" to
    decomission their analog copper systems. I also pointed this out to
    speed of light some months ago when he was arguing he was never going
    to let go of his copper, and at the time speed of light guy (as usual)
    refused to listen or understand.

    Fiber ... well ... they ain't gonna because my old wire is wrapped
    in dense vines that intertwine with my power transformer and the
    utility is NOT interested in dealing with that despite the friendly
    BS on their web site. Electrocution hazard. My house is not very
    friendly to new cables either - concrete and real wood and uncertain
    electric routing.

    I fail to see how that affects fibre deployment

    It does not have anything at all to do with it. But it's "speed of
    light", he hallucinates reasons at about the rate all of the AI's do.

    All they need to do is place a fibre to your premises and provide some
    form of termination kit on it inside the house at some point that needs power and is equipped with Ethernet.

    And neither concrete nor "real wood" will deter the installer. They
    will simply get out their hammer drill, and their carbide bit, and
    drill through whatever they need to drill through to get the fiber
    inside to the in house dmarc.

    No wires beyond that are involved

    Fibre is quite easy to place on new poles, or underground, depending on which works well

    Using cellular technology for internet is at best a temporary bodge.

    Sadly, given the sparseness of much of the rural US, a "cellular bridge
    box" is what the "bells" managed to regulatory capture talk the FCC
    into allowing them to use as a replacement for the 100 year old analog
    copper phone wiring when they decomission the copper. Plus the box
    he's talking about does not do internet, it's an FCC approved substitute
    for POTS phone service.


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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Sep 25 09:11:06 2026
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    On 25/09/2026 04:50, Rich wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 24/09/2026 06:42, c186282 wrote:
    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was
    not interested in fixing them. They HATE copper.
    ANY excuse to dump it.

    Not exactly surprising

    It's the end result of the US FCC allowing the local "bells" to
    decomission their analog copper systems. I also pointed this out to
    speed of light some months ago when he was arguing he was never going
    to let go of his copper, and at the time speed of light guy (as usual) refused to listen or understand.

    Fiber ... well ... they ain't gonna because my old wire is wrapped
    in dense vines that intertwine with my power transformer and the
    utility is NOT interested in dealing with that despite the friendly
    BS on their web site. Electrocution hazard. My house is not very
    friendly to new cables either - concrete and real wood and uncertain
    electric routing.

    I fail to see how that affects fibre deployment

    It does not have anything at all to do with it. But it's "speed of
    light", he hallucinates reasons at about the rate all of the AI's do.

    All they need to do is place a fibre to your premises and provide some
    form of termination kit on it inside the house at some point that needs
    power and is equipped with Ethernet.

    And neither concrete nor "real wood" will deter the installer. They
    will simply get out their hammer drill, and their carbide bit, and
    drill through whatever they need to drill through to get the fiber
    inside to the in house dmarc.

    No wires beyond that are involved

    Fibre is quite easy to place on new poles, or underground, depending on
    which works well

    Using cellular technology for internet is at best a temporary bodge.

    Sadly, given the sparseness of much of the rural US, a "cellular bridge
    box" is what the "bells" managed to regulatory capture talk the FCC
    into allowing them to use as a replacement for the 100 year old analog
    copper phone wiring when they decomission the copper. Plus the box
    he's talking about does not do internet, it's an FCC approved substitute
    for POTS phone service.


    Id have stuck a Starlink in years ago.
    --
    Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Sep 25 12:28:22 2026
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    On 2026-09-24 12:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/09/2026 06:42, c186282 wrote:
    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was
    not interested in fixing them. They HATE copper.
    ANY excuse to dump it.

    Not exactly surprising

    Fiber ... well ... they ain't gonna because my old
    wire is wrapped in dense vines that intertwine with
    my power transformer and the utility is NOT interested
    in dealing with that despite the friendly BS on
    their web site. Electrocution hazard. My house is not
    very friendly to new cables either - concrete and
    real wood and uncertain electric routing.

    I fail to see how that affects fibre deployment

    All they need to do is place a fibre to your premises and provide some
    form of termination kit on it inside the house at some point that needs power and is equipped with Ethernet.

    No wires beyond that are involved

    Fibre is quite easy to place on new poles, or underground, depending on which works well

    Using cellular technology for internet is at best a temporary bodge.

    You would be better off with Skylink


    Here it is fibre to everybody on cities. At least if sufficiently
    densely populated. Otherwise, or on rural sites, it is some radio
    technology.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 26 00:08:02 2026
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    On 9/24/26 05:33, Andy Burns wrote:

    c186282 wrote:

    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was not interested in
    fixing them. They HATE copper. ANY excuse to dump it.

    The minute that BT offers to swap my copper for fibre, I'll snap their
    arm off.-a They were repairing the duct outside my house until 9pm last night, so hopefully we're getting close now ...

    No fiber for me ... nasty dense vines have
    engulfed the phone line AND my power transformer.
    Electrocution hazard. Power corp is NOT interested
    in fixing any of this - basically advise calling
    911 Fire if/WHEN something bursts into flames.
    Been after them for two months - nada. Of course
    their WEB PAGE sez they are SO concerned :-)

    So, anyway, kinda STUCK with wireless 'solutions'.

    Alas I'm kind of in a dead zone there too. Not
    gonna change anytime soon.

    Life ain't always fair.

    LOOKING into StarLink. Price ain't bad. WOULD
    have to fab a custom antenna mount to fit a
    concrete wall alas. Possible. Too old to climb
    ladders now, would have to hire a handyman.

    Used to BE a pretty good handyman on top of
    the IT stuff. What a drag it is getting old ...

    1/8th iron or 3/16ths aluminum I figure, has to
    be cat-3 resistant. StarLink antennas are kind
    of "sails". Mount shape = shallow triangle with
    one side a bit longer ... ideal pointing here
    is north-northeast and just a bit of extra
    tilt in that direction. There ARE pointing charts.

    HAVE had cat-2 and low cat-3 winds here before,
    prolonged. It's a serious engineering issue.
    Tends to shake everything apart and make it
    fly into the neighbors houses.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 26 01:54:09 2026
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    On 9/24/26 06:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 24/09/2026 06:42, c186282 wrote:
    Old wires went bad - and ATT, not unexpectedly, was
    not interested in fixing them. They HATE copper.
    ANY excuse to dump it.

    Not exactly surprising


    Nope. KNEW this. HOPED my copper would
    last a few more years.

    ALMOST did ... phone still did everything,
    but RING. They DIDN'T/WOULDN'T fix it.


    Fiber ... well ... they ain't gonna because my old
    wire is wrapped in dense vines that intertwine with
    my power transformer and the utility is NOT interested
    in dealing with that despite the friendly BS on
    their web site. Electrocution hazard. My house is not
    very friendly to new cables either - concrete and
    real wood and uncertain electric routing.

    I fail to see how that affects fibre deployment

    (a) concrete with rebar

    (b) MIGHT hit existing wiring, causing
    fires or electrocution.

    Roughly 1950 construction - Pill-Box.
    Built by a construction contractor for
    his own fam - who lived there for a few
    years. He did NOT cut corners. Kinda
    cat-4 construction.

    Fiber SOUNDS easy, IS in many cases. But
    not in MY case. From now on I'm gonna have
    NOTHING but wireless - and the signal sucks.

    All they need to do is place a fibre to your premises and provide some
    form of termination kit on it inside the house at some point that needs power and is equipped with Ethernet.

    No wires beyond that are involved

    Fibre is quite easy to place on new poles, or underground, depending on which works wel

    1950 poles and wires ... now wired-in to my
    power grid via vines and shit.

    Using cellular technology for internet is at best a temporary bodge.

    You would be better off with Skylink

    AM looking into StarLink - but it's not really
    meant for EVERYTHING yet. Price ain't bad though.
    Biggie is keeping my old land-line NUMBER ...
    all most everybody of value uses. My new cell
    thingie DOES use that number.

    Dislike cells. Have SOME uses but as many
    pains. Thinking of going to another carrier,
    maybe even something cheapo like Consumer
    Cellular, with a Samsung Android smart(ass)
    phone as a THIRD number.

    Found a 2-year newer model of the traditional
    inline answer machine. Now installed. LIKE
    those - a few easy buttons, no star codes
    or worse. Odd how "improved" really means
    "MUCH more complicated/unusable" ....

    Yea, yea ... means "Nerds Like Me" were
    involved :-) Alas nobody CHECKED the nerds,
    nobody synced them with Reality. A room
    full of "Sheldons".

    Hmm ... just for fun ... tried to send a TEXT
    to my new cellular thingie. No good - and NO
    real way to READ it even if it did work.

    This is getting more and more annoying even
    as I'm getting older and older. NOT good !
    Is my future to be WITHOUT handy comms ???

    STILL don't know how to PAY for the new
    cellular thingie ...... may have to go
    and create a New Online Account, which I
    recall is kinda NOT so easy or transparent.
    There IS a Company Sales Office ... might
    have to buy a new cell, but then they likely
    WILL consolidate all my accounts during the
    process. Have about a month.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 26 09:31:42 2026
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    On 26/09/2026 05:08, c186282 wrote:
    No fiber for me ... nasty dense vines have
    -a engulfed the phone line AND my power transformer.

    Why would you think fibre would take the same route?
    --
    The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
    its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

    Anon.

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  • From Rich@rich@example.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 26 10:01:27 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/09/2026 05:08, c186282 wrote:
    No fiber for me ... nasty dense vines have
    -a engulfed the phone line AND my power transformer.

    Why would you think fibre would take the same route?

    Because like an AI, "speed of light" hallucinates an incorrect reason
    and in his case then sticks to it through thick and thin.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 26 12:04:53 2026
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    On 26/09/2026 11:01, Rich wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/09/2026 05:08, c186282 wrote:
    No fiber for me ... nasty dense vines have
    -a engulfed the phone line AND my power transformer.

    Why would you think fibre would take the same route?

    Because like an AI, "speed of light" hallucinates an incorrect reason
    and in his case then sticks to it through thick and thin.

    Ooh. You bitch!
    --
    "When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics."

    Josef Stalin


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  • From Fritz Wuehler@fritz@spamexpire-202609.rodent.frell.theremailer.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 26 17:05:41 2026
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    c186282 <c186...@nnada.net> [c]:
    Too old to climb ladders now, would have to hire a handyman.

    No need to install that Starlink antenna somewhere high up.
    It works just the same installed at any height; no need for a
    ladder or a handyman.

    It could even be installed without a mast, see https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.Eaisjt38SW0Nov_rBfArdwHaFL

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 26 20:00:25 2026
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    On Sat, 26 Sep 2026 17:05:41 +0200, Fritz Wuehler wrote:

    https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.Eaisjt38SW0Nov_rBfArdwHaFL

    I have a flat section of roof so I put it there held up by its kickstand.
    As a temporary measure I laid a old motorcycle battery on the kickstand to anchor it. We've had some high gusts since then so temporary is on its way
    to becoming permanent.

    I did need to climb about halfway up an extension ladder but I can still handle that without killing myself.

    A few years ago I was doing something on the ladder and the cat climbed up
    to investigate. I will attest cats climb ladders a lot better than they go down ladders. She made me look graceful.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Sep 27 03:16:46 2026
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    On 9/27/26 02:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 27/09/2026 02:32, c186282 wrote:
    On 9/26/26 04:31, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 26/09/2026 05:08, c186282 wrote:
    No fiber for me ... nasty dense vines have
    -a-a engulfed the phone line AND my power transformer.

    Why would you think fibre would take the same route?

    -a-a Only semi-clear way into the property.

    underground?

    They are NOT gonna do that.

    And the POWER corp is, eventually, planning
    to underground.

    I can just see a MASSIVE nasty short circuit
    under my house .......

    And six MONTHS without power OR comms. Would
    have to live in a hotel and find some ways
    to FAKE habitation to deter thieves.

    Look, these big corps DON'T CARE about
    their customers anymore.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Sep 27 08:38:04 2026
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    On 27/09/2026 08:16, c186282 wrote:
    And the POWER corp is, eventually, planning
    -a to underground.

    -a I can just see a MASSIVE nasty short circuit
    -a under my house .......

    -a And six MONTHS without power OR comms. Would
    -a have to live in a hotel and find some ways
    -a to FAKE habitation to deter thieves.

    Good grief. When the builders digging my foundation sliced through the
    cable with the excavator bucket, we had the electricity company on site
    next day, and he first replaced the 60A blown fuse with a 100A one 'to
    make sure we have a proper fault' and used a meter to work out exactly
    where the short was when THAT blew.

    Hammered a stick in the ground and told the excavator man to 'dig there'
    Well he had already DUG there, that was in fact the problem...

    But we exposed enough cable to cut it and splice in a new bit with lots
    of water proofing and armouring, and the house s stayed at 100A supply thereafter,

    Which is how things work when the nation is civilised and there are no politics in the way.

    Contrast to the house down the road that had a heating oil line running
    in the concrete floor. When that went, the insurance and the environment control sad 'whole floor has to come up and the contaminated soil must
    be dug out 6 foot deep and all replaced with a new floor etc etc..

    When I spilt 100litres of fuel oil I kept my mouth shut. It smelt for a
    few years and killed the grass. But it all came back..
    --
    "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
    that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

    Jonathan Swift.

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Sep 27 19:02:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Sun, 27 Sep 2026 08:38:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Hammered a stick in the ground and told the excavator man to 'dig there'
    Well he had already DUG there, that was in fact the problem...

    I worked for a contractor for a couple of months. Rather than call before digging his instructions to the backhoe operator were to keep digging; he would call if any cables were dug up.

    It was a valuable experience. I learned how to cut every corner in the
    book and wind up with a salable house. A fireplace and hardwood floors
    would entice the naive buyers. They would discover the trout pond in the basement and the leach field laid in a swamp at some future date.
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  • From Lars Poulsen@lars@beagle-ears.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Sep 27 06:53:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 9/27/2026 00:16, c186282 wrote:
    [...]
    -a And the POWER corp is, eventually, planning
    -a to underground.

    -a I can just see a MASSIVE nasty short circuit
    -a under my house .......

    -a And six MONTHS without power OR comms. Would
    -a have to live in a hotel and find some ways
    -a to FAKE habitation to deter thieves.

    -a Look, these big corps DON'T CARE about
    -a their customers anymore.

    That is why we have PUCs to supervise them. And class action
    lawsuits when they fail to do that.
    --
    Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Sep 28 08:58:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 27/09/2026 20:02, rbowman wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Sep 2026 08:38:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Hammered a stick in the ground and told the excavator man to 'dig there'
    Well he had already DUG there, that was in fact the problem...

    I worked for a contractor for a couple of months. Rather than call before digging his instructions to the backhoe operator were to keep digging; he would call if any cables were dug up.

    It was a valuable experience. I learned how to cut every corner in the
    book and wind up with a salable house. A fireplace and hardwood floors
    would entice the naive buyers. They would discover the trout pond in the basement and the leach field laid in a swamp at some future date.
    Now who is being negative about people...
    --
    rCLThose who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.rCY

    rCo Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles |a M. Claparede, Professeur de Th|-ologie |a Gen|?ve, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
    M. de Voltaire

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Sep 28 17:33:11 2026
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    On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 08:58:01 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Now who is being negative about people...

    Overall I tilt towards a negative assessment of my fellow man. They're
    human, all too human, and are easily distracted by shiny objects.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Tue Sep 29 03:25:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 9/28/26 13:33, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 08:58:01 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Now who is being negative about people...

    Overall I tilt towards a negative assessment of my fellow man. They're
    human, all too human, and are easily distracted by shiny objects.

    And, of course, YOU aren't ....... :-)

    MANY things 'shine'.

    Suggest a more 'holistic' view of yer "fellow man"
    and the "human condition".

    Sorry, being a comp/OS guru is NOT the pinnacle
    of human existence. Oft USEFUL, but not the Big
    Picture.

    One of the traditional virtues is "humility",
    a lack of hubris.

    Just sayin' dude.

    Better life for all in that. Whether IQ 90 or
    IQ 190, we all have our unique, randomly
    useful, skill/experience sets.

    Be nice.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Oct 1 01:37:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 9/29/26 03:25, c186282 wrote:
    On 9/28/26 13:33, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 08:58:01 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Now who is being negative about people...

    Overall I tilt towards a negative assessment of my fellow man. They're
    human, all too human, and are easily distracted by shiny objects.

    -a And, of course, YOU aren't .......-a :-)

    -a MANY things 'shine'.

    -a Suggest a more 'holistic' view of yer "fellow man"
    -a and the "human condition".

    -a Sorry, being a comp/OS guru is NOT the pinnacle
    -a of human existence. Oft USEFUL, but not the Big
    -a Picture.

    -a One of the traditional virtues is "humility",
    -a a lack of hubris.

    -a Just sayin' dude.

    -a Better life for all in that. Whether IQ 90 or
    -a IQ 190, we all have our unique, randomly
    -a useful, skill/experience sets.

    -a Be nice.


    Note : "Phone-Advanced" system :
    DID finally manage to create a new online acct.
    email is WRONG - foreign agent, likely does not
    hear letters/syllables the same, gonna have to
    brave the computer help system - horrible !

    Did manage to make a PAYMENT though - good sign.
    Did get into the 'application portal' at least
    once - made all desired changes right then in
    case I can never get into it again. Have old
    school inline answer device - MUCH easier than
    any online bullshit, so turned voicemail OFF
    after setting more rings than the device. Alas,
    despite being a kind of cell, it does NOT get
    TEXT messages anywhere apparently.

    Still want to buy a more traditional "smartphone",
    One of the Samsung S series seems ideal, not TOO
    expensive but well reviewed. CAN do 'apps' (hate
    them) and direct payments using one however. NOT
    sure whether to go with ATT or a competitor though.

    MIGHT be better with a competitor because ATT, in
    case of serious probs, won't be able to lock it out.
    2FA ability is now something we can't do without.
    SOME - to a degree ATT - are now kinda 3FA ...
    hoping they DROP that bullshit because it's
    Just TOO and I'm getting too old to deal with
    'captchas' (Disabilities Act lawsuits MAY be
    on the horizon - bet a million would sign on).

    Oh, the smartphone ... 99.9% just plugged into the
    charger on a shelf. HATE the things with a passion,
    Apple products twice as much ! NOT remotely 'intuitive'
    for ME. Note EVERY major carrier charges TWICE as much
    for such phones as the Amazon "unlocked" equiv. I just
    don't want to try and COPE with registering an
    'unlocked' phone now alas, leave that to the sweet-16s.

    Does "JitterBug", phones for OLD people, have any
    kind of 'smartphone' now ? Gotta check ! Umm - MAY,
    but all seems through "lively.com" which I'm not
    sure is real/trustworthy. Anyway, not playing games
    or streaming 8k through the thing. JitterBug is
    famous for flip phones with BIG keys and simple
    large-ish displays. Older folks LOVE them. Plans
    are good too. Hey, tinytiny text and tiny on-screen
    keys do NOT mesh with being over 65 !!! Gen-Z ain't
    there yet - but WILL be :-)

    Hmm ... digital TIMER for the charger ? If not
    used much we only want to charge for maybe 30
    minutes a week or the battery will suffer. Many
    such devices for sale.

    Anyway, that's the update on this device.

    I *can* theoretically buy up to TEN 'lines', there
    is a plug on it for each. It's kind of a 'business'
    device really. If I had fax machines and such that'd
    be the way to go. Yes, FAX still CAN be useful !

    May wanna check online for a cheap device ... but
    I *think* my Everything-Printer/Scanner thingie
    CAN send faxes. The WIRING would be a nightmare
    however ... no plaster-board walls or drop
    ceilings here and NO I'm not gonna get on
    ladders anymore !

    Had to MOVE the device from where-installed.
    Kept getting a very weird CYCLING of signal
    strength ... zero bars slowly up to two bars
    and then down to zero again. NOT good. Where
    I moved it I get ONE bar, but (almost) constantly.
    Cell service where I am is BAD and they're NOT
    gonna fix it anytime soon.

    Anyway, just an update on this 'new' technology.

    Final extra bit ... SEEMS that for a mere $20 I can
    buy a slightly upgraded CHAT-GPT account. SHOULD I
    buy it ? While I really REALLY don't like "AI"
    (now "Super-Intelligence") it MAY become kind of
    indispensible in the very NEAR future.

    I will credit Trump here for the re-name. He said
    the term "artificial" intelligence was obsolete.
    Whatever the fuck today's big corps have created
    is not really 'artificial' anymore ... it's a sort
    of alien-ish REAL intelligence - "by another means".
    Yea, LLMs aren't the BEST way, but put a trillion
    bucks or so into them and .......

    "Super-Intelligence" is something that can solve
    almost ALL your vexing problems FAST. Might be
    able to solve faster-than-light in a few days
    if properly informed. Math prodigies are in SHOCK,
    so MANY beloved intractable issues solved in
    just DAYS, sometimes HOURS. Future system cap
    will be at least 10-100X today's.

    What HAVE we made ??? Alas we won't know until
    it's WAY too late .......

    Oh well, have gone on too long ...

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