• Re: Persistent WiFi Dropout Issue I Can't Solve

    From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Sep 18 23:55:18 2026
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    On 9/18/26 05:18, Andy Burns wrote:
    c186282 wrote:

    -a-a This didn't happen with the built-in wifi, but
    -a-a DOES with the USB wifi dongle.

    Sounds as though it'd be easy to try a different 'flavour' of dongle? Depends how much you value your time, not much fun tracking down an
    issue you can only test once or twice an hour...

    I do have another one somewhere, but it's a very
    short dongle and may not yield the same signal
    quality. I remember it's not rated as fast.
    Dunno WHICH little box I stashed it in alas :-)

    Might be worth a try, experimentally, however.

    Anyway, I'm fair at reading logs/journals and
    just cannot find a reason for my problem. Power
    save settings are off. Static IP, Google DNS,
    no stupid pet tricks. The connection just DROPS
    for about one second, nearly exactly every 30
    minutes. Nothing obvious in the router settings
    and my other devices do not do this. The distro
    is MX ... which does come with a sysV AND systemd
    version. Latest updates. Tried both.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 19 04:13:12 2026
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    On 9/18/26 23:55, c186282 wrote:
    On 9/18/26 05:18, Andy Burns wrote:
    c186282 wrote:

    -a-a This didn't happen with the built-in wifi, but
    -a-a DOES with the USB wifi dongle.

    Sounds as though it'd be easy to try a different 'flavour' of dongle?
    Depends how much you value your time, not much fun tracking down an
    issue you can only test once or twice an hour...

    -a I do have another one somewhere, but it's a very
    -a short dongle and may not yield the same signal
    -a quality. I remember it's not rated as fast.
    -a Dunno WHICH little box I stashed it in alas :-)

    -a Might be worth a try, experimentally, however.

    -a Anyway, I'm fair at reading logs/journals and
    -a just cannot find a reason for my problem. Power
    -a save settings are off. Static IP, Google DNS,
    -a no stupid pet tricks. The connection just DROPS
    -a for about one second, nearly exactly every 30
    -a minutes. Nothing obvious in the router settings
    -a and my other devices do not do this. The distro
    -a is MX ... which does come with a sysV AND systemd
    -a version. Latest updates. Tried both.

    Had TWO dongles ...

    One was a "Tendra" - did NOT register at all, likely
    needs some exotic driver. Only AC900 anyway.

    The other was a little TP-Link ... same brand as the
    problem one. AC1300. SO FAR it seems to be holding.
    Not ideal, direct path to wifi router kinda blocked,
    but we'll see.

    Ordered a NetGear ... can't even keep track of all
    the speed/etc ratings these days anymore. Probably
    fast and good. DOES have a short extension cable
    so with a little Alien Tape I can get it to peek
    out from behind the TV.

    We shall see. Stay tuned.

    Remember when WiFi was kinda cookie-cutter ? NOW,
    just SO many protocols/options. Is this an
    "improvement" ???

    Oops ! JUST dropped out ... but no message. MIGHT
    have been PlutoTV instead of the dongle. It's
    always a bit 'iffy'. Basically commercial TV over
    the net ... good content selection though.

    Oops ! NOW got "the message" ... NO better than
    the other dongle ! Will have to wait for the
    NetGear and hope for better.

    A very mysterious problem for which all the logs
    teach pretty much NOTHING. Could even be the USB
    buss cycling for some reason ... but can't fathom
    the reason. Anyway, NOT gonna throw away the whole
    mini-box JUST because the internal WiFi chip crapped.
    New mini-boxes are now two or three times the price
    due to the trade wars and dearth of memory chips.
    "AI" has sucked up ALL the memory in the world ...

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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Sep 19 09:56:18 2026
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    On 2026-09-19, c186282 wrote:

    On 9/18/26 23:55, c186282 wrote:
    On 9/18/26 05:18, Andy Burns wrote:
    c186282 wrote:

    -a-a This didn't happen with the built-in wifi, but
    -a-a DOES with the USB wifi dongle.

    Sounds as though it'd be easy to try a different 'flavour' of
    dongle? Depends how much you value your time, not much fun tracking
    down an issue you can only test once or twice an hour...

    -a I do have another one somewhere, but it's a very
    -a short dongle and may not yield the same signal
    -a quality. I remember it's not rated as fast.
    -a Dunno WHICH little box I stashed it in alas :-)

    -a Might be worth a try, experimentally, however.

    -a Anyway, I'm fair at reading logs/journals and
    -a just cannot find a reason for my problem. Power
    -a save settings are off. Static IP, Google DNS,
    -a no stupid pet tricks. The connection just DROPS
    -a for about one second, nearly exactly every 30
    -a minutes. Nothing obvious in the router settings
    -a and my other devices do not do this. The distro
    -a is MX ... which does come with a sysV AND systemd
    -a version. Latest updates. Tried both.

    Had TWO dongles ...

    One was a "Tendra" - did NOT register at all, likely
    needs some exotic driver. Only AC900 anyway.

    The other was a little TP-Link ... same brand as the
    problem one. AC1300. SO FAR it seems to be holding.
    Not ideal, direct path to wifi router kinda blocked,
    but we'll see.


    Ordered a NetGear ... can't even keep track of all
    the speed/etc ratings these days anymore. Probably
    fast and good. DOES have a short extension cable
    so with a little Alien Tape I can get it to peek
    out from behind the TV.

    These strongly look like marketing brands, you want the brand of the
    *WLAN controller*. Marketing brands are almost useless when it comes to
    harware questions, although they can still identify changes made in the
    circuit fabricated for that branding.

    Also, when you order or go shopping for a new one, the chip itself is
    something you definitely want to identify beforehand. Might be
    difficult, but do take that step, and maybe consider just refusing
    something you can't identify, if you have alternatives that are
    known-good.

    And if you want less headaches, you'll look for something that carries
    e.g. Atheros. You treat something with the letters "BCM" as if it were a metallic tube container with "DROP & RUN" etched on it.

    And even inside the WLAN NIC manufacturer reputation, you'd still check
    for specifics of the model you're about to buy, to see if there's some
    caveat. (For example (although this one is probably too old to affect
    new acquisitions?), maybe Intel isn't bad at all overall, but you'd
    still avoid ipw2200 because of its power management issues.)

    We shall see. Stay tuned.

    Remember when WiFi was kinda cookie-cutter ? NOW,
    just SO many protocols/options. Is this an
    "improvement" ???

    The only reason I wasn't so badly served in earlier years is because my
    first WLAN card happened to be one that has Atheros. The box even said
    so, even though back then I had no idea how lucky that was.

    Oops ! JUST dropped out ... but no message. MIGHT
    have been PlutoTV instead of the dongle. It's
    always a bit 'iffy'. Basically commercial TV over
    the net ... good content selection though.

    Oops ! NOW got "the message" ... NO better than
    the other dongle ! Will have to wait for the
    NetGear and hope for better.

    A very mysterious problem for which all the logs
    teach pretty much NOTHING. Could even be the USB
    buss cycling for some reason ... but can't fathom
    the reason. Anyway, NOT gonna throw away the whole
    mini-box JUST because the internal WiFi chip crapped.
    New mini-boxes are now two or three times the price
    due to the trade wars and dearth of memory chips.
    "AI" has sucked up ALL the memory in the world ...

    Honestly, dropping connections while the power listed is strong enough
    for that not to happen, and networks disappearing then reappearing with
    strong enough signal and connection instability in general, while it can
    have other reasons, can also be a sign of Broadcom.
    --
    Nuno Silva
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