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On 2026-09-18 03:26, c186282 wrote:
On 9/17/26 04:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-09-17 09:28, c186282 wrote:
On 9/17/26 02:22, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-09-17 04:25, c186282 wrote:
On 9/16/26 13:55, Nuno Silva wrote:
On 2026-09-16, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>>
Because you are not copying to the filesystem, that is in the mount
point.
-a-a Correct. I see how it works.
Even "echo" can do the trick IIRC; or cat. dd is not the only
destroyer here.
-a-a Heh ... ALWAYS be VERY careful when doing this stuff !!! :-)
-a-a But ... I doubt that 10% of current Linux users can cope
-a-a with command-line stuff or have the slightest clue WHY
-a-a or HOW it works. If it's not point-n-click they freak.
I know those. I had a friend that wanted to use Linux, but refused to
use the CLI at all, so he could not use it because there was always
some admin task that needed the CLI.
And now openSUSE dropped YaST, so it is even worse.
-a I used it for a LONG time --a desktops and servers.
-a Even got it to run on a PI-4.
-a YAST was maybe THE best feature - it was all business
-a and let you see or set up all kinds of complex shit in
-a just a few clicks. Want a softRAID array, YAST would
-a make it super-easy, even some more subtle options, WITH
-a a little advice on when/how to use them. I've done it
-a the Hard Way ... YAST was the Better Way for sure !
-a But then OS started slipping, getting weird. Slowly at
-a first, then more and faster. Dropping YAST was the
-a final straw. I keep a fairly current ISO, but really
-a I'm never gonna use it for anything.
-a My GUESS is that YAST and some of the other stuff were
-a writ and maintained by A FEW OLD GUYS - and they retired.
It is written in Ruby and few people can do it.
-a-a MUCH worse for Win/Apple people ... maybe just ONE percent,
-a-a and it's all the OLD geeks.
I was a Windows guy, but I was born before MsDOS. The Linux CLI was
home, with some key differences. Most important one, the *.* thing,
and bash expanding it before calling a program.
-a I did PDP-11s, then CP/M, then DOS and so forth.
-a XP was the last version I could even STAND ...
-a Win2k was my fave (have it in a VM somewhere).
-a As an IT, I had to cope with an office full if
-a Winders boxes and clueless users for a long time.
-a DID convert all the back-room stuff to Linux as
-a soon as it was possible ...
-a Oh, go through even the Win2k registry - look
-a for "NSA BACKDOOR"-a :-)
-a-a Hmmm ... saw stories on alt media, now on the MSM,
-a-a about how Gen-Z/A2 just CAN'T talk to humans on
-a-a the damned phone. TERRIFIES them ! The very thought
-a-a paralyzes ! Won't even talk to their best buds, HAS
-a-a to be texts or vids or pics.
LOL. Don't say that while I'm having my morning tea, I almost ruined
keyboard and screen :-D
-a Morning tea ? UK ? Don't know what the kiddies THERE
-a are like. Likely something ELSE simple terrifies THEM.
No, Spain. But I have British ancestors. :-)
-a-a Sorry, texts and AI will NOT transmit the nuances
-a-a of what you want/need very well. An actual human,
-a-a even in Bangalore, will "get it" in a few seconds.
-a-a What the fuck has HAPPENED to the recent gens ???
-a-a Is NOT good.
They don't know what a directory or folder is.
-a Ask most people how an automobile works. Most
-a will just say "You turn the key and it goes".
Ah, well, I don't know how my current car works. My first one yes, not
this one. Lots of electronics and tricks.
There is a duct from the top of the gasoline tank to the motor.
Somewhere there is a canister with carbon granules. Gasoline vapours
gets trapped there. A computer activated valve lets pass some gases to
the admission tubes, to be burnt.
The valve got stuck or something. Effects weird in engine idle regime. Computer said motor failure. Anti-skid system failure. Car speed limited
to 100Km/h.
Repair was cheap, once the mechanic knew what the problem was from my descriptions of weird symptoms because he had a similar trouble on
another car before.
-a-a I'd be in favor of removing all text/AI "support"
-a-a for anything by law - just to strong-arm these kiddies :-)
-a-a If they won't talk even to their peers then it's TOO
-a-a easy for evil forces to manipulate them.
-a-a Frame the laws as a "defense issue".
-a-a Making a big change in my old phone system right
-a-a now. "Sam" in Bangalore quickly grasped my problem
-a-a and got things rolling. A, basically, giant cell
-a-a phone with lots of plugs, came in the other day.
-a-a WAY lots of options and 'support' numbers for
-a-a every step alas. So, getting a tekkie to come
-a-a install the thing, get as much resolved straight
-a-a off as possible. No it doesn't have a web interface,
-a-a at least not directly. Gonna HAVE to call a few of
-a-a those support numbers again. NOT sure how to even
-a-a PAY for it ... what site/password/etc ??? Might
-a-a even have to go talk to actual HUMANS directly
-a-a at their store - horrors !!! I'm a bit 'spectrum'
-a-a (no such term when I was a kiddie) and don't love
-a-a direct interaction, but, well, sometimes that's
-a-a the only way to get it all straight. I'll survive
-a-a with minimal trauma. Gen-Z however .......
I'm probably also a bit in the spectrum (doctor says no, but I don't
believe her :-D ). I prefer vertical conversation to phone, actually.
So to make an appointment with some people I walk or grab the car.
-a Well, 'phone' was kind of the ONLY way in my youth
-a so I mastered the art of phone conversations.
-a-a One thing clear by now, they're NOT gonna fix
-a-a my landline problem. They are very keen to DROP
-a-a all wires - too expensive to cope with. Sad,
-a-a the landline worked even if the main power died.
-a-a May have to buy a rather large UPS .....
Consider a 12v UPS for router and phone.
-a Have, already shopped Amazon. Prices are, like most
-a electronics, much higher now alas. But - maybe really
-a need to keep a fairly strong one in reserve. The power
-a company uses yer number to kind of confirm yer address
-a and validity. No power = no call from the number.
-a There IS a place down the road a bit that deals in
-a UPSs and LED lighting and such - and WILL exchange
-a dead batteries. Would still rather have lead-acid
-a for the safety angle. Have one small one that uses
-a LiPo ... don't entirely trust it to not explode
-a at 3AM. Have a spare old smoke detector - guess
-a where I stuck it ? :-)
:-D
-a-a Hmm ... better clean all the JUNK - piles of papers
-a-a and shit - before the tekkie arrives ! One old guy.
-a-a Fortunately I don't keep plates of half-eaten food
-a-a laying around. Great scene in that "Flash" movie ...
-a-a house FULL of rotting foodstuffs and such, which our
-a-a hero had to fix in one second :-)
yeah. No, I'm not there either.
-a All my 'cooking' is microwaving shit. I use my old
-a oven to store worrisome LiPo batteries. Hey, a 500+
-a degree resistant metal box !
Right! But I do use my oven for frozen pizzas.
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Cheers, Carlos.
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