• Re: Mac OS issue #2 revised - What the hell is going on here?

    From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Sep 18 08:12:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 9/11/26 3:07 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-09-11 04:43, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 8/16/26 8:36 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-08-16 10:53, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 09:37:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    So, likely something in my user account. I'll try duplicating my
    account using Migration Assistant and see if the problem goes away >>>>>> in the copy.

    On actual (non-trademark) Unix systems, like Linux, user preferences >>>>> are kept in separate files, unique to each particular app/subsystem
    the user might be running.

    Back in the 20th century, these preference files (called rCLdotfilesrCY >>>>> because their names began with a dot) cluttered up the top level of
    your home directory. And still do, to some extent. But the modern
    trend is to group them in a small number of top-level directories,
    like rCL~/.local/rCY and rCL~/.config/rCY, with separate subdirectories within
    there for each app/subsystem, to reduce the clutter.

    What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if one >>>>> particular app is misbehaving, you can try resetting/deleting/renaming >>>>> just the prefs for that app, rather than having to recreate your
    entire user account.

    Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS.
    How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open
    Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

    Your utter lack of understanding of such matters is staggering.

    Spotlight may not have an icon you can click on, but that doesn't
    mean it can't have all the standard settings files, etc. that
    applications with such icons have.

    <https://duckduckgo.com/?
    q=how+to+reset+all+spotlight+preferences+for+one+user+macOS&t=osx&ia=web> >>>
    'To reset all Spotlight preferences for a specific user on macOS, you
    can delete the Spotlight preferences file located at ~/Library/
    Preferences/com.apple.spotlight.plist. After deleting this file,
    restart your Mac to allow Spotlight to recreate the preferences. This
    will reset all Spotlight settings for that user.'

    (Now just you all wait: in a few monthsrComaybe later in this thread
    should it last a few days, Liarboy will parrot this back to me as if
    he discovered it.)

    There IS another way.

    Settings>Spotlight>Search Privacy>Drag your drive into the Locations
    Click done

    Repeat but take the drive out of the box. Deletes the search index and
    rebuilds it. Not obvious but done within the GUI.

    It does have settings, but nothing in the menu bar.

    And here we go again with the Liarboy parroting back to me something I
    told HIM.

    That solution is also easy to find with Google. Not the first one I
    found. Bottom line it did not solve the problem.

    Last week I wiped the hard drive and did a complete restore of the OS
    and the account using Time Machine. Still have the issue. Next step is
    to delete my user account and rebuild it by manually reloading apps and restoring data from either iCloud or my external drive. Or, maybe I'll
    just put up with having to logon with my user account password to get Spotlight working.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Sep 19 12:27:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-09-18 05:12, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 9/11/26 3:07 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-09-11 04:43, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 8/16/26 8:36 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2026-08-16 10:53, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 09:37:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    So, likely something in my user account. I'll try duplicating my >>>>>>> account using Migration Assistant and see if the problem goes away >>>>>>> in the copy.

    On actual (non-trademark) Unix systems, like Linux, user preferences >>>>>> are kept in separate files, unique to each particular app/subsystem >>>>>> the user might be running.

    Back in the 20th century, these preference files (called rCLdotfilesrCY >>>>>> because their names began with a dot) cluttered up the top level of >>>>>> your home directory. And still do, to some extent. But the modern
    trend is to group them in a small number of top-level directories, >>>>>> like rCL~/.local/rCY and rCL~/.config/rCY, with separate subdirectories >>>>>> within
    there for each app/subsystem, to reduce the clutter.

    What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if one >>>>>> particular app is misbehaving, you can try resetting/deleting/
    renaming
    just the prefs for that app, rather than having to recreate your
    entire user account.

    Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS. >>>>> How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada.
    Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

    Your utter lack of understanding of such matters is staggering.

    Spotlight may not have an icon you can click on, but that doesn't
    mean it can't have all the standard settings files, etc. that
    applications with such icons have.

    <https://duckduckgo.com/?
    q=how+to+reset+all+spotlight+preferences+for+one+user+macOS&t=osx&ia=web> >>>>
    'To reset all Spotlight preferences for a specific user on macOS,
    you can delete the Spotlight preferences file located at ~/Library/
    Preferences/com.apple.spotlight.plist. After deleting this file,
    restart your Mac to allow Spotlight to recreate the preferences.
    This will reset all Spotlight settings for that user.'

    (Now just you all wait: in a few monthsrComaybe later in this thread
    should it last a few days, Liarboy will parrot this back to me as if
    he discovered it.)

    There IS another way.

    Settings>Spotlight>Search Privacy>Drag your drive into the Locations
    Click done

    Repeat but take the drive out of the box. Deletes the search index
    and rebuilds it. Not obvious but done within the GUI.

    It does have settings, but nothing in the menu bar.

    And here we go again with the Liarboy parroting back to me something I
    told HIM.

    That solution is also easy to find with Google. Not the first one I
    found. Bottom line it did not solve the problem.

    Last week I wiped the hard drive and did a complete restore of the OS
    and the account using Time Machine. Still have the issue. Next step is
    to delete my user account and rebuild it by manually reloading apps and restoring data from either iCloud or my external drive. Or, maybe I'll
    just put up with having to logon with my user account password to get Spotlight working.

    Then you're an idiot.

    IF the problem is some misconfigured data within either the user or system-wide preferences...

    ...then wiping the drive and doing a COMPLETE restore is just going to
    restore the bad data, isn't it, Liarboy?
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