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On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 09:37:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

So, likely something in my user account. I'll try duplicating my
account using Migration Assistant and see if the problem goes away
in the copy.

On actual (non-trademark) Unix systems, like Linux, user preferences
are kept in separate files, unique to each particular app/subsystem
the user might be running.

Back in the 20th century, these preference files (called rCLdotfilesrCY because their names began with a dot) cluttered up the top level of
your home directory. And still do, to some extent. But the modern
trend is to group them in a small number of top-level directories,
like rCL~/.local/rCY and rCL~/.config/rCY, with separate subdirectories within
there for each app/subsystem, to reduce the clutter.

What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if one particular app is misbehaving, you can try resetting/deleting/renaming
just the prefs for that app, rather than having to recreate your
entire user account.

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS. How
do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open
Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:53:34 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if
one particular app is misbehaving, you can try
resetting/deleting/renaming just the prefs for that app, rather
than having to recreate your entire user account.

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS.
How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

But still, per-user prefs should be kept in the per-user area
somewhere. If Spotlight is some kind of Finder plugin, or even just
another face that the Finder app wears depending on how you invoke it,
then that should be reflected in some part of the FinderrCOs per-user preferences.
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On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:53:34 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if
one particular app is misbehaving, you can try
resetting/deleting/renaming just the prefs for that app, rather
than having to recreate your entire user account.

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS.
How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open
Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds, mdworker,
corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

But still, per-user prefs should be kept in the per-user area
somewhere. If Spotlight is some kind of Finder plugin, or even just
another face that the Finder app wears depending on how you invoke it,
then that should be reflected in some part of the FinderrCOs per-user preferences.

~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Spotlight.plist
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On 2026-08-16 15:36, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:53:34 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if
one particular app is misbehaving, you can try
resetting/deleting/renaming just the prefs for that app, rather
than having to recreate your entire user account.

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS.
How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open
Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

But still, per-user prefs should be kept in the per-user area
somewhere. If Spotlight is some kind of Finder plugin, or even just
another face that the Finder app wears depending on how you invoke it,
then that should be reflected in some part of the FinderrCOs per-user preferences.

Spotlight is the generic name given to a group of technologies that work together (usually extremely well) to allow instant searching for...

...well everything on your system.

You invoke it AS Spotlight by either click the magnifying glass in the menubar, or using the Command-space shortcut.

And yes: as an app/application/process, it has user preferences, and
they're kept where you'd expect to find then on a macOS system.
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On 2026-08-16 10:53, Tom Elam wrote:

On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 09:37:03 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

So, likely something in my user account. I'll try duplicating my
account using Migration Assistant and see if the problem goes away
in the copy.

On actual (non-trademark) Unix systems, like Linux, user preferences
are kept in separate files, unique to each particular app/subsystem
the user might be running.

Back in the 20th century, these preference files (called rCLdotfilesrCY
because their names began with a dot) cluttered up the top level of
your home directory. And still do, to some extent. But the modern
trend is to group them in a small number of top-level directories,
like rCL~/.local/rCY and rCL~/.config/rCY, with separate subdirectories within
there for each app/subsystem, to reduce the clutter.

What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if one
particular app is misbehaving, you can try resetting/deleting/renaming
just the prefs for that app, rather than having to recreate your
entire user account.

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS. How
do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open
Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Your utter lack of understanding of such matters is staggering.

Spotlight may not have an icon you can click on, but that doesn't mean
it can't have all the standard settings files, etc. that applications
with such icons have.

<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+reset+all+spotlight+preferences+for+one+user+macOS&t=osx&ia=web>

'To reset all Spotlight preferences for a specific user on macOS, you
can delete the Spotlight preferences file located at ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.spotlight.plist. After deleting this
file, restart your Mac to allow Spotlight to recreate the preferences.
This will reset all Spotlight settings for that user.'

(Now just you all wait: in a few monthsrComaybe later in this thread
should it last a few days, Liarboy will parrot this back to me as if he discovered it.)
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On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the
OS. How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get
nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and
out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds,
mdworker, corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it well?rCY
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On Aug 16, 2026 at 6:36:20rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:53:34 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 8/6/26 8:27 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

What IrCOm trying to say is, on such a 21st-century-Unix system, if
one particular app is misbehaving, you can try
resetting/deleting/renaming just the prefs for that app, rather
than having to recreate your entire user account.

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS.
How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open
Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

LOL.

The "Unix Way" WAS a bunch of small, single function utilities that
programmers would chain/pipe together to do complex things.

But that was 50 years ago. When Unix Computers had 8K of RAM and tape drives
or very slow hard drives for storage and a green screen monitor for output.

But computers have come a long way in 50 years. Users no longer want to - or are even capable of - typing arcane commands into the terminal to do everything. Point and click (or touch) GUIs are how everything is done today.

AGAIN, underneath the slick GUI, MacOS IS Unix. I realize you are still in total denial of this fact, but that is YOUR problem.

Even Linux today has slick GUIs to do everything. Users no longer HAVE to use the terminal.

BUT, both Linux users AND Apple Unix users can still use the terminal if they WANT to.

Android is Linux but no one is using the terminal to send text messages. MacOS, iOS and iPadOS are Unix but again, no one is using the terminal to send pictures to friends.

Because they don't HAVE to. All thanks to easy-to-use GUIs.
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On Aug 16, 2026 at 11:06:07rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the
OS. How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get
nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and
out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds,
mdworker, corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it well?rCY

That died decades ago. Computers now are powerful enough that users no longer give a damn about the "Unix philosophy". Hell, users today have never even heard of the quaint "Unix philosophy".

Nor do they give a damn about computers from 50 years ago.
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On 2026-08-16 20:06, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the
OS. How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get
nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and
out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds,
mdworker, corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it well?rCY

Those are each "one thing" doing their individual parts well, doofus.
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 03:06:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the OS.
How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get nada. Open
Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and out
for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds, mdworker,
corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it well?rCY

Ask Lennart Poettering.
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On Aug 16, 2026 at 8:06:07rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <115ttqv$ltlg$2@dont-email.me>:

On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the
OS. How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get
nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and
out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds,
mdworker, corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it well?rCY

Under the hood Spotlight isn't a monolith, but a set of separate daemons
like "mds" and "mdworker" and others. I do not know the details of each,
nor do I need to -- they are all there doing their own relatively small
jobs.

Apple treats search as a basic platform feature rather than an optional
tool you plug in yourself. It's baked in, so every app gets fast
system-wide indexing out of the box without every developer re-inventing
the wheel. Or even if they did, they could not assume others would "play
nice".

This means developers can write code and assume they have that service.
And more. This allows macOS apps to be written to make assumptions you
cannot make on Linux, or really even on Windows. It is why Linux apps
often feel like they are written for the Least Common Denominator. This
is what allows so many apps on macOS to have access to things that are
not the norm on other systems. Just some examples:

* Proxy icons
* A Media Browser
* Full screen programs integrating with virtual desktops
* PDF Services
* A system wide color selector which allows for add-ons
* A system wide font manager where you can define sets and more
* Application services
* Renaming, moving, and duplicating from within programs
* QuickLook (and its integration with so many programs)
* Saved status indicators
* A visual versioning system (allowing easy copy/paste from earlier versions)
* Consistent print dialogs
* Consistent save and open dialogs
* Consistent common dialog names, placements, and hot keys
* Path popup from title bar
* Recent items list that works with moved / renamed files
* Integrated dictation services
* Integrated text-to-voice services
* Core Image / graphics filters
* System wide auto-save
* Data Detectors
* Continuity / Camera integration
* System-level biometrics / keychain integration
* System wide grammar and spelling

I am sure there are more I am not thinking of. Even simple things macOS users take for granted, such as "promise files" with drag and drop.
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On Aug 16, 2026 at 8:38:10rC>PM MST, "Alan" wrote <115tvn2$mclc$2@dont-email.me>:

On 2026-08-16 20:06, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the
OS. How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get
nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and
out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds,
mdworker, corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it
well?rCY

Those are each "one thing" doing their individual parts well, doofus.

I wonder how Lawrence will react when he learns of systemd.
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 03:31:40 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 11:06:07rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it
well?rCY

That died decades ago. Computers now are powerful enough that users
no longer give a damn about the "Unix philosophy". Hell, users today
have never even heard of the quaint "Unix philosophy".

I would say it is still alive and well in the open-source world. The
heavy reliance on code and component reuse is a key part of why
developments are able to move so fast in the Linux world.
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On 17 Aug 2026 05:08:38 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

I wonder how Lawrence will react when he learns of systemd.

You havenrCOt seen my previous postings on it?
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 03:25:24 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

But computers have come a long way in 50 years. Users no longer want
to - or are even capable of - typing arcane commands into the
terminal to do everything. Point and click (or touch) GUIs are how
everything is done today.

You havenrCOt noticed that Microsoft has (belatedly) decided that
command lines are cool again? That they have came up with PowerShell,
in an attempt to improve on the rubbish CMD.EXE with those crap .BAT
files descended from MS-DOS/CP/M days? And also a new rCLWindows
TerminalrCY for nicer command-line use?

But even that isnrCOt enough, so they have to bring an actual
full-function Linux kernel into Windows as well.

Even Linux today has slick GUIs to do everything.

Unix systems have had that since the 1980s. But a key part of the
rCLUnix philosophyrCY was ensuring modularity: that meant implementing the
GUI as a separate, modular, replaceable layer, instead of inextricably
binding it into the OS kernel as both Apple and Microsoft has done.

This is why proper Unix systems, like Linux, are able to offer you
a choice of GUIs. Unlike Apple and Microsoft.

AGAIN, underneath the slick GUI, MacOS IS Unix.

And yet, there is less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on Mac than
there is on Linux -- to the point where, to get access to all that
rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to go down the same road as Microsoft,
and add Linux support to its platform.

And yet Apple gets to use the rCLUnixrCY trademark, while Linux does not.

Ironic, donrCOt you think?
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At 17 Aug 2026 05:05:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 8:06:07rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <115ttqv$ltlg$2@dont-email.me>:

On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the
OS. How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get
nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and
out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds,
mdworker, corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it well?rCY

Under the hood Spotlight isn't a monolith, but a set of separate daemons
like "mds" and "mdworker" and others. I do not know the details of each,
nor do I need to -- they are all there doing their own relatively small
jobs.

Apple treats search as a basic platform feature rather than an optional
tool you plug in yourself. It's baked in, so every app gets fast
system-wide indexing out of the box without every developer re-inventing
the wheel. Or even if they did, they could not assume others would "play nice".

This means developers can write code and assume they have that service.
And more. This allows macOS apps to be written to make assumptions you
cannot make on Linux, or really even on Windows. It is why Linux apps
often feel like they are written for the Least Common Denominator. This
is what allows so many apps on macOS to have access to things that are
not the norm on other systems.

Oh reeeeeeeeally now?

Color me skeptical. Devil's advocate, mind you...

You've posted your copy/paste list of buzzwords on this topic
numerous times, and I've always wondered about it.

Just some examples:

Let's pick a couple.

* Proxy icons

What is that?

* A Media Browser

What do you mean by that, and how is it any different than
the media browsing in (say) Thunar?

* Full screen programs integrating with virtual desktops

I'm not sure why you'd say this is "not the norm on other systems".

* PDF Services

What is this?

You can start with those. Again, color me skeptical, but
I'm willing to admit that MacOS has something Linux doesn't,
if that is the case -- whether stuffing it in a Mac-shaped
pigeonhole or not matters, can be debated.
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Lawrence D-|Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 03:25:24 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

But computers have come a long way in 50 years. Users no longer want
to - or are even capable of - typing arcane commands into the
terminal to do everything. Point and click (or touch) GUIs are how
everything is done today.

You havenrCOt noticed that Microsoft has (belatedly) decided that
command lines are cool again? That they have came up with PowerShell,
in an attempt to improve on the rubbish CMD.EXE with those crap .BAT
files descended from MS-DOS/CP/M days? And also a new rCLWindows
TerminalrCY for nicer command-line use?

But even that isnrCOt enough, so they have to bring an actual
full-function Linux kernel into Windows as well.

Even Linux today has slick GUIs to do everything.

Unix systems have had that since the 1980s. But a key part of the
rCLUnix philosophyrCY was ensuring modularity: that meant implementing the GUI as a separate, modular, replaceable layer, instead of inextricably binding it into the OS kernel as both Apple and Microsoft has done.

This is why proper Unix systems, like Linux, are able to offer you
a choice of GUIs. Unlike Apple and Microsoft.

AGAIN, underneath the slick GUI, MacOS IS Unix.

And yet, there is less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on Mac than
there is on Linux -- to the point where, to get access to all that
rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to go down the same road as Microsoft,
and add Linux support to its platform.

And yet Apple gets to use the rCLUnixrCY trademark, while Linux does not.

Ironic, donrCOt you think?

Most desktop users donrCOt want or need access to that Unix software. For the small percentage who do, Docker/VMs solve it adequately. ItrCOs a niche
problem for a niche audiencerCowhich is probably fine for ApplerCOs market.

Apple focuses on a more seamless, integrated experience over unbounded
choice. ThatrCOs a legitimate tradeoff, not a mistakerCoand most of their customer base would agree.

Linux succeeded by being the opposite: modular, choice-heavy, free.
Different strategies for different audiences.
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somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Lawrence D-|Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On 17 Aug 2026 05:08:38 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

I wonder how Lawrence will react when he learns of systemd.

You havenrCOt seen my previous postings on it?

Regardless of your view, which IrCOm not familiar with, the Linux ecosystem
has heavily embraced it. Do you know what inspired systemd? Launchd. From macOS. Integration has its benefits.
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somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:

At 17 Aug 2026 05:05:08 GMT, Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 8:06:07rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115ttqv$ltlg$2@dont-email.me>:

On 17 Aug 2026 00:17:22 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:36:20rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote
<115te14$hgk7$6@dont-email.me>:

Spotlight is not an app as such. It's baked into Finder and the
OS. How do I know that? Search Apps for Spotlight and you get
nada. Open Spotlight from Spotlight and Finder comes up.

Bizarre. And not rCLthe UNIX wayrCY.

It is integral to the system and is not meant to be swapped in and
out for other things. It is tied to multiple services: mds,
mdworker, corespotlightd... and a Spotlight.app in CoreServices.

What happened to the rCLUnix philosophyrCY of rCLdo one thing and do it
well?rCY

Under the hood Spotlight isn't a monolith, but a set of separate daemons
like "mds" and "mdworker" and others. I do not know the details of each,
nor do I need to -- they are all there doing their own relatively small
jobs.

Apple treats search as a basic platform feature rather than an optional
tool you plug in yourself. It's baked in, so every app gets fast
system-wide indexing out of the box without every developer re-inventing
the wheel. Or even if they did, they could not assume others would "play
nice".

This means developers can write code and assume they have that service.
And more. This allows macOS apps to be written to make assumptions you
cannot make on Linux, or really even on Windows. It is why Linux apps
often feel like they are written for the Least Common Denominator. This
is what allows so many apps on macOS to have access to things that are
not the norm on other systems.

Oh reeeeeeeeally now?

Yes.

Color me skeptical. Devil's advocate, mind you...

You've posted your copy/paste list of buzzwords on this topic
numerous times, and I've always wondered about it.

I am the author of that list. And itrCOs real world features I use. Try
again. :)

Just some examples:

Let's pick a couple.

* Proxy icons

What is that?

Icons in windows that work like file browser icons. They allow easy drag
and drop of files. I use it often. Used it multiple times in the last 24
hours. ItrCOs a very handy feature available in pretty much any app. I used
it in Preview and Pages at the very least. Far more than just a buzzword!

* A Media Browser

What do you mean by that, and how is it any different than
the media browsing in (say) Thunar?

It is integrated. Again: used it in the last 24 hours. In an app select
File > Open and have access to my photo browser organizer. By name, date, person, type of image, etc. ItrCOs very very handy.

* Full screen programs integrating with virtual desktops

I'm not sure why you'd say this is "not the norm on other systems".

What other system has a dedicated button in windows to make a window full screen and its own virtual space?

* PDF Services

What is this?

Tied to print dialogs. Largely a streamlined way of saving as pdf and then opening in another app. Or more broadly, streamlining common destinations rCo folders or apps. Again, I use this often. Many times in the last 24 hours.

You can start with those. Again, color me skeptical, but
I'm willing to admit that MacOS has something Linux doesn't,
if that is the case -- whether stuffing it in a Mac-shaped
pigeonhole or not matters, can be debated.

If you want I can make a video showing those features. Might take me a
couple days rCo the next few are busy for me with other projects. Perhaps
then you can show how yourCOd do similar tasks. We can both learn.

For that matter show some of the favorite features of your desktop you
think IrCOd not know about. We can both learn.

I am admittedly far behind on Linux. Happy to see how itrCOs grown and
changed.
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