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Came across this report <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/vlc-media-player-bug-reportedly-causes-33-second-delay-when-playing-mp3-files-on-windows-developers-say-microsoft-defender-is-to-blame>
of a problem with the open-source VLC media player that is specific to Microsoft Windows. The person who reported it used the issue as a
springboard for critiquing the general state of open-source software
on Windows, a stance which the VLC developers hit back at as rCLdisrespectfulrCY.

I think it is a fact, that the state of open-source software on
Windows continues to lag behind a more attractive platform like Linux.
I donrCOt think this is in any way a reflection on the quality of the developers trying to get such software working on Windows: itrCOs just
the nature of the platform, that it continues to put such obstacles in
their way.

Windows is, at its heart, an open-source-hostile platform. There is no
getting away from that.
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On 8/15/2026 11:32 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

Came across this report <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/vlc-media-player-bug-reportedly-causes-33-second-delay-when-playing-mp3-files-on-windows-developers-say-microsoft-defender-is-to-blame>
of a problem with the open-source VLC media player that is specific to Microsoft Windows. The person who reported it used the issue as a
springboard for critiquing the general state of open-source software
on Windows, a stance which the VLC developers hit back at as rCLdisrespectfulrCY.

I think it is a fact, that the state of open-source software on
Windows continues to lag behind a more attractive platform like Linux.
I donrCOt think this is in any way a reflection on the quality of the developers trying to get such software working on Windows: itrCOs just
the nature of the platform, that it continues to put such obstacles in
their way.

Windows is, at its heart, an open-source-hostile platform. There is no getting away from that.

https://x.com/joelwcrump/status/2088834700517298319


It's not being hostile, it's just typical Winblows bugs, it's such a
behemoth that there will be some bugs, they don't suggest it'll be
perfect. I was generally much more impressed with typical Linux
distros' attention to detail than Microsoft's. Why I'm using Windows I
can't even give a good reason for, I know I wish to use it but it's
puzzling what made me so bent on spending the money it would take.
--
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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On Aug 15, 2026 at 11:32:51rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

Windows is, at its heart, an open-source-hostile platform. There is no getting away from that.

Nonsense.

Windows is just a steaming pile of shit AND the absurdly complicated variety
of hardware/software available means it is impossible for MS to test ALL scenarios.

This will come down to some combination of hardware/drivers/etc. It will not happen for ALL Windows users. Its just another embarrasing (for MS) Windows
bug that will eventually be fixed.

Oh look, I am correct. This quote: "We also tried to replicate the issue on a Windows 11 machine; however, VLC launched normally, and we did not experience any noticeable delay when playing an MP3 file." is evidence that this issue - like 99% of Windows issues - is due to some unique hardware/software combination.

This is why Microsoft does minimal testing of updates. Home users do the bulk testing. The people who are dumb enough to actually install Windows Updates as soon as they are released. Then Microsoft's REAL customers - corporations - will only allow these updates into corporate laptops after the bugs are reported and worked out.

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can actually do serious testing.
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On 8/16/2026 12:28 AM, Nick Charles wrote:

On Aug 15, 2026 at 11:32:51rC>PM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

Windows is, at its heart, an open-source-hostile platform. There is no
getting away from that.

Nonsense.

Windows is just a steaming pile of shit AND the absurdly complicated variety of hardware/software available means it is impossible for MS to test ALL scenarios.

This will come down to some combination of hardware/drivers/etc. It will not happen for ALL Windows users. Its just another embarrasing (for MS) Windows bug that will eventually be fixed.

Oh look, I am correct. This quote: "We also tried to replicate the issue on a
Windows 11 machine; however, VLC launched normally, and we did not experience any noticeable delay when playing an MP3 file." is evidence that this issue - like 99% of Windows issues - is due to some unique hardware/software combination.

This is why Microsoft does minimal testing of updates. Home users do the bulk
testing. The people who are dumb enough to actually install Windows Updates as
soon as they are released. Then Microsoft's REAL customers - corporations - will only allow these updates into corporate laptops after the bugs are reported and worked out.

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can actually do serious testing.

You're not *entirely* incorrect, here. You exaggerate Winblows' bugs,
and give comfort to Apple's extortion of your hard-earned money because
they have such pretty software, but at the end of the day, open-source software for Windows is a *key* component. I own Microsoft Word. I
paid the money. But I would rather use LO Writer. I want *other*
things from my 365 access. It's kind of extravagant, what I've done, admittedly, but it's just that I know what I'm doing and don't care
about the cost. But back to the point, Windows updates that spread bugs
are a thing, largely on specific OEM devices, I am not using such,
rather a generic installation of Win11 from media.
--
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:32:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro wrote:

Came across this report <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/vlc-media-player-bug-reportedly-causes-33-second-delay-when-playing-mp3-files-on-windows-developers-say-microsoft-defender-is-to-blame>
of a problem with the open-source VLC media player that is specific to Microsoft Windows. The person who reported it used the issue as a
springboard for critiquing the general state of open-source software
on Windows, a stance which the VLC developers hit back at as
|disrespectfuli.

I think it is a fact, that the state of open-source software on
Windows continues to lag behind a more attractive platform like Linux.
I don t think this is in any way a reflection on the quality of the developers trying to get such software working on Windows: it s just
the nature of the platform, that it continues to put such obstacles in
their way.

Windows is, at its heart, an open-source-hostile platform. There is no getting away from that.

Both are wrong.

Cross-platform softwares will never be optimized for only specific platform.

The article incorrectly think that, open source is same as cross-platform.
It's not.

On the other hand, VLC think that, human opinion is same as software
platform. It's not.
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On 8/16/2026 1:16 AM, JJ wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:32:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

Came across this report
<https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/vlc-media-player-bug-reportedly-causes-33-second-delay-when-playing-mp3-files-on-windows-developers-say-microsoft-defender-is-to-blame>
of a problem with the open-source VLC media player that is specific to
Microsoft Windows. The person who reported it used the issue as a
springboard for critiquing the general state of open-source software
on Windows, a stance which the VLC developers hit back at as
rCLdisrespectfulrCY.

I think it is a fact, that the state of open-source software on
Windows continues to lag behind a more attractive platform like Linux.
I donrCOt think this is in any way a reflection on the quality of the
developers trying to get such software working on Windows: itrCOs just
the nature of the platform, that it continues to put such obstacles in
their way.

Windows is, at its heart, an open-source-hostile platform. There is no
getting away from that.

Both are wrong.

Cross-platform softwares will never be optimized for only specific platform.

The article incorrectly think that, open source is same as cross-platform. It's not.

On the other hand, VLC think that, human opinion is same as software platform. It's not.

Ultimately, using VLC on Windows or Linux is an experience unique to it,
I would recommend Audacious on both Windows and Linux for MP3/FLAC/etc. playback, I'm lovin' it under Windows because it was the one app that
Linux actually outperformed Windows on, VLC is a great video player but
I never thought of it as a general media player. I don't have to have
one app for all kinds of streaming media.
--
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 03:32:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

I think it is a fact, that the state of open-source software on Windows continues to lag behind a more attractive platform like Linux.
I donrCOt think this is in any way a reflection on the quality of the developers trying to get such software working on Windows: itrCOs just the nature of the platform, that it continues to put such obstacles in their
way.

The last time I checked Python, node.js, Apache, postgreSQL, QGIS,
DBeaver, nginx, Firefox, Brave, Libreoffice, and so forth and so on work
just fine on Windows.
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:28:21 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because
Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can
actually do serious testing.

Actually, it happens less on ApplerCOs platform simply because there is
less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on that platform.

To get access to the rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to add Linux
support to its platform.

And yet Apple gets to use the rCLUnixrCY trademark, while Linux does not.

Ironic, donrCOt you think?
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On 8/16/2026 2:39 AM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:28:21 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because
Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can
actually do serious testing.

Actually, it happens less on ApplerCOs platform simply because there is
less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on that platform.

To get access to the rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to add Linux
support to its platform.

And yet Apple gets to use the rCLUnixrCY trademark, while Linux does not.

Ironic, donrCOt you think?

Wrong, macOS does not need to have a Linux VM to be Unix, period. It is
Unix. It's just *also* Apple GUI and money paid to said company.
--
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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On 8/16/2026 3:15 AM, Joel W. Crump wrote:

On 8/16/2026 2:39 AM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:28:21 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because
Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can
actually do serious testing.

Actually, it happens less on ApplerCOs platform simply because there is
less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on that platform.

To get access to the rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to add Linux
support to its platform.

And yet Apple gets to use the rCLUnixrCY trademark, while Linux does not.

Ironic, donrCOt you think?

Wrong, macOS does not need to have a Linux VM to be Unix, period.-a It is Unix.-a It's just *also* Apple GUI and money paid to said company.

More specifically, Apple's production of Unix within macOS does give
access to essentially anything that a typical Linux distro would, I
mean, is it Linux Mint, no, but it's essentially a kind of distro, if
you will, this gluing on of Linux with a VM strikes me more as just
copying Microsoft with WSL 2, rather than really giving a serious Mac
user control of the Unix side, that has been there for years and years.
--
Joel W. Crump

Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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On 2026-08-15 11:32 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

Came across this report <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/vlc-media-player-bug-reportedly-causes-33-second-delay-when-playing-mp3-files-on-windows-developers-say-microsoft-defender-is-to-blame>
of a problem with the open-source VLC media player that is specific to Microsoft Windows. The person who reported it used the issue as a
springboard for critiquing the general state of open-source software
on Windows, a stance which the VLC developers hit back at as rCLdisrespectfulrCY.

I think it is a fact, that the state of open-source software on
Windows continues to lag behind a more attractive platform like Linux.
I donrCOt think this is in any way a reflection on the quality of the developers trying to get such software working on Windows: itrCOs just
the nature of the platform, that it continues to put such obstacles in
their way.

Windows is, at its heart, an open-source-hostile platform. There is no getting away from that.

I can confirm that Windows Defender causes delays. Civilization 7, as an example, takes a good two minutes to load a match unless you exclude the
game from your scan. Nevertheless, the game still performs better once
loaded than it does in Linux.
--
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air
Matthew 7:15
John 14:6
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On 2026-08-15 23:39, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:28:21 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because
Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can
actually do serious testing.

Actually, it happens less on ApplerCOs platform simply because there is
less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on that platform.

To get access to the rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to add Linux
support to its platform.

Give an example.

And yet Apple gets to use the rCLUnixrCY trademark, while Linux does not.

Ironic, donrCOt you think?

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On Aug 16, 2026 at 2:39:58rC>AM EDT, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:28:21 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because
Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can
actually do serious testing.

Actually, it happens less on ApplerCOs platform simply because there is
less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on that platform.

Huh? Even if that was true, what does that have to do with VLC?

To get access to the rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to add Linux
support to its platform.

What??? Do you have any idea what you are saying?

And yet Apple gets to use the rCLUnixrCY trademark, while Linux does not.

Because Linux is not Unix.

Ironic, donrCOt you think?

Do you even know what "ironic" means?

Seriously. WTF ARE you babbling about? And why do you always snip the
context and attempt to change the conversation?

This VLC issue does not happen on Apple Unix. VLC is open source and runs
just fine on Apple Unix.

Apple does not need to add Linux to Apple Unix. IT IS ALREADY UNIX.
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On Aug 16, 2026 at 9:15:23rC>PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2026-08-15 23:39, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 04:28:21 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Notice that this issue does not happen on Apple Unix. Why? Because
Apple controls everything AND the hardware is all known. Apple can
actually do serious testing.

Actually, it happens less on ApplerCOs platform simply because there is
less actual rCLUnixrCY software available on that platform.

To get access to the rCLUnixrCY software, Apple has had to add Linux
support to its platform.

Give an example.

This will be hilarious.

Lawrence is totally clueless about what MacOS is and what it can do.
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 02:52:55 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Apple does not need to add Linux to Apple Unix. IT IS ALREADY UNIX.

You really didnrCOt know that it is doing exactly this -- adding Linux?
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On 2026-08-16 20:04, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 02:52:55 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:

Apple does not need to add Linux to Apple Unix. IT IS ALREADY UNIX.

You really didnrCOt know that it is doing exactly this -- adding Linux?

And that addresses his point...

...how...

..at all?
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