• Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11

    From L Thorpe@lt666@sixsixsix.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Aug 15 20:45:49 2026
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    Ahoy Pie R8s!

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11. After all, the world is composed of
    retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.

    But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old." I installed
    it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
    I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).

    I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version. I grabbed
    a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462. The 8Gb d/l
    was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive
    took almost 15 fucking minutes. That's 'cause the burn allows
    the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced
    crap. Kudos to the h4x0rs! (This also an "ancient" machine
    being based on a Core i7 2600).

    The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several
    reboots (that's M$ crap for ya').

    The activation went as smooth as silk, however, and now I have
    a permanent Win11 and Orifice2024. Kudos to the h4x0rs!

    But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through
    that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$
    lunacy.

    In particular I need to disable that bullshit "Defender."
    It used to be a matter of elevating to "Tusted Installer"
    and then disabling the appropriate services, but that does
    not work with this newer version. I disabled it via Group
    Policy but the services are still running. I may need to
    boot with a Gentoo Live USB and then delete the directory.

    Anyway, I disabled updates even though I have no plans to
    ever allow this Win11 to connect to the network. I can
    transfer all files via "sneakernet" from GNU/Linux.

    Again, kudos to all the global h4x0rs that allow M$ to
    be so easily whipped.



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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Aug 15 17:10:52 2026
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    On 8/15/2026 4:45 PM, L Thorpe wrote:

    Ahoy Pie R8s!

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11. After all, the world is composed of
    retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.

    But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old." I installed
    it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
    I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).

    I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version. I grabbed
    a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462.


    Why would you use "warez" of *Microsoft's* OS? Are you that ignorant of
    how Windows takes possession of your system? You're just giving them *permission* to fuck with you. I paid $200 to legitimately activate
    Win11 Pro on this thing when it *came with* a gray-market 11 Pro license already, and they have to a very limited extent fucked with me *even
    so*. That is because of who I am, I realize, but nevertheless, if
    you're admittedly using "warez" Win11, I mean, you are not the computer science wizard you claim to be.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From L Thorpe@lt666@sixsixsix.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Aug 15 21:15:07 2026
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    On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 17:10:52 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:


    Why would you use "warez" of *Microsoft's* OS?


    Sodomite Joel still has not answered the question of how many
    times he shits the bed in a given week.

    How many times did you shit the bed?

    Heh! How many times?

    Haaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Aug 15 17:21:41 2026
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    On 8/15/2026 5:15 PM, L Thorpe wrote:

    Why would you use "warez" of *Microsoft's* OS?

    Sodomite Joel still has not answered the question of how many
    times he shits the bed in a given week.

    How many times did you shit the bed?

    Heh! How many times?

    Haaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


    You are avoiding the point, moron.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Aug 15 22:56:32 2026
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    This newer Win11 is really fucked.

    I d/led some h4x0r tools and then attempted to execute
    them by "clicking" on them from File Explorer. I immediately
    received a warning (this was before I disabled that stupid shit)
    explaining that the files might be malware and that I could
    not execute them.

    So I immediately invoked Powershell, navigated to the relevant
    directory (folder) and executed them via CLI. There was no problem.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! I almost fell off my chair
    with crippling laughter.

    Smart job Micro$hit!

    But I eventually disabled that security bullshit.

    It requires a LONG TIME to beat this M$ junk into submission
    but it can be done.

    Whew baby! Only a supremely retarded dunce would desire to
    use Micro$hit Winblows!

    But as has been stated, one must be prepared to deal with
    the retarded assholes of the world.

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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sat Aug 15 19:36:43 2026
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    On 8/15/2026 6:56 PM, Leroy H wrote:

    This newer Win11 is really fucked.

    I d/led some h4x0r tools and then attempted to execute
    them by "clicking" on them from File Explorer. I immediately
    received a warning (this was before I disabled that stupid shit)
    explaining that the files might be malware and that I could
    not execute them.

    So I immediately invoked Powershell, navigated to the relevant
    directory (folder) and executed them via CLI. There was no problem.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! I almost fell off my chair
    with crippling laughter.

    Smart job Micro$hit!

    But I eventually disabled that security bullshit.

    It requires a LONG TIME to beat this M$ junk into submission
    but it can be done.

    Whew baby! Only a supremely retarded dunce would desire to
    use Micro$hit Winblows!

    But as has been stated, one must be prepared to deal with
    the retarded assholes of the world.


    Why not just use Win11 more or less as it comes, I have my settings and StartAllBack, but I'm not gonna buttfuck the system like some people do,
    it's weird.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 16 02:26:27 2026
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    On 8/15/26 16:45, L Thorpe wrote:
    Ahoy Pie R8s!

    Ummmmmm ... RASPBERRY PI 8s ??? There's not even
    a RP 6 yet. Won't be for awhile, esp with the
    current weird financial situation.

    You don't WANT to know what a Pi-Zero-2W costs
    in the USA right now ... I made a whole thread
    around it.

    A couple years ago I bought a like five of
    those "mini-box" PCs ... basically low-end
    laptop chips. Price was GOOD. Using Linux
    they could do four times as much as the
    built-in Winders crap. PRIDE in making sure
    Winders didn't run for a microsecond before
    installing Linux ! :-)

    BeeLink/BMax ... great units - or USED to be.

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11. After all, the world is composed of
    retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.

    But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old." I installed
    it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
    I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).

    I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version.

    WHY the fuck would you install Win ??????????????

    I grabbed
    a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462. The 8Gb d/l
    was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive
    took almost 15 fucking minutes. That's 'cause the burn allows
    the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced
    crap. Kudos to the h4x0rs! (This also an "ancient" machine
    being based on a Core i7 2600).

    The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several
    reboots (that's M$ crap for ya').

    The activation went as smooth as silk, however, and now I have
    a permanent Win11 and Orifice2024. Kudos to the h4x0rs!

    But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through
    that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$
    lunacy.

    In particular I need to disable that bullshit "Defender."
    It used to be a matter of elevating to "Tusted Installer"
    and then disabling the appropriate services, but that does
    not work with this newer version. I disabled it via Group
    Policy but the services are still running. I may need to
    boot with a Gentoo Live USB and then delete the directory.

    Anyway, I disabled updates even though I have no plans to
    ever allow this Win11 to connect to the network. I can
    transfer all files via "sneakernet" from GNU/Linux.

    Again, kudos to all the global h4x0rs that allow M$ to
    be so easily whipped.

    Just sayin' ... DUMP Winders/Apple !!! NEVER look
    at them again ! Linux/Unix can do everything you
    need - for a fraction of the CPU/Disk. Yer $200
    box will perform like a $800 box.

    Winders/Apple became EVIL a LONG time ago IMHO.
    Don't give 'em a dime.

    Hmm ... still remember finding "NSA Backdoor"
    in the WIN-2K registry !

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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11 on Sun Aug 16 03:01:41 2026
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    On 8/16/2026 2:26 AM, c186282 wrote:
    On 8/15/26 16:45, L Thorpe wrote:

    Anyway, I disabled updates even though I have no plans to
    ever allow this Win11 to connect to the network.-a I can
    transfer all files via "sneakernet" from GNU/Linux.

    Again, kudos to all the global h4x0rs that allow M$ to
    be so easily whipped.

    -a Just sayin' ... DUMP Winders/Apple !!! NEVER look
    -a at them again ! Linux/Unix can do everything you
    -a need - for a fraction of the CPU/Disk. Yer $200
    -a box will perform like a $800 box.

    -a Winders/Apple became EVIL a LONG time ago IMHO.
    -a Don't give 'em a dime.

    -a Hmm ... still remember finding "NSA Backdoor"
    -a in the WIN-2K registry !


    Win11 can be a great OS, actually. It's less so when it's pirated,
    though, and these manhandling schemes with Rufus, to get around TPM,
    show that some people simply want to claim Windows for its software, but
    are willfully ignorant of or are outright trying to deconstruct
    Microsoft's established patterns for how the OS is installed and used.
    There's just not a good reason for this, ultimately, it's trying to orchestrate a husbandry of the OS that simply isn't necessary, if one
    were humble, I do change important settings from the defaults, and such,
    but forcing modifications to the Windows system as it's delivered is
    just attempting to customize the product into something that ultimately
    fails to retain the components that MS provides, it's running away from
    what a complete Windows OS is. I, for one, want the experience to be fundamentally intact.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 08:45:01 2026
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    Le 15-08-2026, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> a |-crit-a:

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.

    Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't
    explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to
    maintain a working version of Win11.

    After all, the world is composed of
    retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.

    You prove, once again, that you are stuck in the past and your reality
    is outdated. Linux has never been intended for elites, but thirty years
    ago, if you wanted to use Linux, you needed to be really, really
    motivated. If you weren't ready to learn the hard way, you couldn't
    install and use Linux.

    But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for
    others". You remind me the joke: "Can you tell me where I can find a prostitue? It's not for me, it's for a friend." You are pathetic.

    But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old."

    Yes, stuck in the past. By the way, you could realize that your
    installation is getting old because your first claim stating that you
    are using exclusively Linux was a lie.

    I installed
    it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
    I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).

    You are proud of that, it's a smart thing to do. Mostly if you want
    others to use your computer to make money on your back.

    I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version.

    Good boy.

    I grabbed
    a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462. The 8Gb d/l
    was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive
    took almost 15 fucking minutes. That's 'cause the burn allows
    the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced
    crap. Kudos to the h4x0rs! (This also an "ancient" machine
    being based on a Core i7 2600).

    You forget about your slow HDD.

    The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several
    reboots (that's M$ crap for ya').

    Your slow HDD help the install process to take more time than necessary.
    That's funny to see a guy who despise everything recent only to be able
    to complain about the slowness of his computer.

    But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through
    that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$
    lunacy.

    You see? You prove my point. You barely manage to have a Linux computer
    that barely work, but you can't manage to have a working Windows. So
    Linux is easier than Windows.
    --
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    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 08:53:09 2026
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    Le 15-08-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a |-crit-a:
    This newer Win11 is really fucked.

    So, don't use it. Why do you care about it if you are using exclusively
    Linux? Just to be able to complain about it? Or because you can't admit
    it but you are using Windows more than Linux?

    I d/led some h4x0r tools and then attempted to execute
    them by "clicking" on them from File Explorer.

    Yes, I knew it. You are a GUI boy pretending to use a terminal.


    So I immediately invoked Powershell, navigated to the relevant
    directory (folder) and executed them via CLI. There was no problem.

    Oh, you know more about Powershell than about bash? What a Windows
    fanboy.

    It requires a LONG TIME to beat this M$ junk into submission
    but it can be done.

    It's easier to avoid using Windows in the first place.

    Whew baby! Only a supremely retarded dunce would desire to
    use Micro$hit Winblows!

    You are the one. Good boy.

    But as has been stated, one must be prepared to deal with
    the retarded assholes of the world.

    I'm ready to deal with you since a long time.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps |a perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 04:59:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 8/16/2026 4:45 AM, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 15-08-2026, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> a |-crit-a:

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.

    Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't
    explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to
    maintain a working version of Win11.


    Is he not crazy? ROFL! If I were running Linux, that's what I'd be
    running. I'm running Windows. So not Linux. It's either/or.


    After all, the world is composed of
    retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.

    You prove, once again, that you are stuck in the past and your reality
    is outdated. Linux has never been intended for elites, but thirty years
    ago, if you wanted to use Linux, you needed to be really, really
    motivated. If you weren't ready to learn the hard way, you couldn't
    install and use Linux.

    But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for
    others". You remind me the joke: "Can you tell me where I can find a prostitue? It's not for me, it's for a friend." You are pathetic.

    But my Win11 installation was getting somewhat "old."

    Yes, stuck in the past. By the way, you could realize that your
    installation is getting old because your first claim stating that you
    are using exclusively Linux was a lie.

    I installed
    it way back in 2022 and things have changed since then (of course
    I always have updates disabled and thus everything stays the same).

    You are proud of that, it's a smart thing to do. Mostly if you want
    others to use your computer to make money on your back.

    I therefore decided to install a newer Win11 version.

    Good boy.

    I grabbed
    a w4r3z of Windows 11 Pro, 25H2, build 26200.7462. The 8Gb d/l
    was completed in a few short minutes but the burn to a USB drive
    took almost 15 fucking minutes. That's 'cause the burn allows
    the disabling of TPM, RAM, CoPilot, and all the other forced
    crap. Kudos to the h4x0rs! (This also an "ancient" machine
    being based on a Core i7 2600).

    You forget about your slow HDD.

    The install also required about 15 minutes and involved several
    reboots (that's M$ crap for ya').

    Your slow HDD help the install process to take more time than necessary. That's funny to see a guy who despise everything recent only to be able
    to complain about the slowness of his computer.


    Using a spinning disk with Win11 or even Win10 is impossibly bad. And
    Larry really ought to realize it.


    But it is now several hours and I am still working my way through
    that byzantine/rocco crap configuration mess that defines M$
    lunacy.

    You see? You prove my point. You barely manage to have a Linux computer
    that barely work, but you can't manage to have a working Windows. So
    Linux is easier than Windows.


    He might benefit from a Mac, heh.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 16 11:55:19 2026
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    At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net>
    wrote:

    Ahoy Pie R8s!

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.

    I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't
    had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths
    of "TINW"? Beats me.

    BTW, I know you're excited about your latest MS Windows purchase,
    but I can't see how that is on topic for colm.

    Also, you didn't compare MS Windows to Linux, so it's off-topic
    in cola, too.

    Message-ID: <comp.os.linux.advocacy-RFD1@uunet.uu.net>

    Summary from article:
    Summary: comp.os.linux.advocacy is to be an unmoderated group for the discussion of the positive and negative sides of Linux and comparison
    of Linux with other operating systems.

    CHARTER:

    The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of Linux.
    In addition, it will allow comp.os.linux.misc to deal with
    Linux-specific issues. Discussion will include (but not be limited to)
    the discussion of the pros and cons of Linux and appliactions for
    Linux, and the comparison of Linux with other operating systems and
    enviromnets such as Microsoft DOS and Windows, SCO UNIX, Coherent,
    NeXTstep, Macintosh System, etc. It will be an unmoderated forum.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    (Here endeth this ancient history lesson.)

    I've set fu2: cola for further discussion. Since you morphed
    out of my kf once again, I can eagerly await your sagacious
    remarks.
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G
    OS: Linux 7.2.0-rc7 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (610.57.04)
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 08:09:01 2026
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    On 2026-08-16 4:45 a.m., St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 15-08-2026, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> a |-crit-a:

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.

    Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't
    explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to
    maintain a working version of Win11.

    After all, the world is composed of
    retarded assholes and retarded assholes can only use Win11.

    You prove, once again, that you are stuck in the past and your reality
    is outdated. Linux has never been intended for elites, but thirty years
    ago, if you wanted to use Linux, you needed to be really, really
    motivated. If you weren't ready to learn the hard way, you couldn't
    install and use Linux.

    It wasn't _that_ hard in 1996. Nevertheless, once installed, there was a
    good chance that your hardware wasn't supported properly. In my case, it
    was the video card and the audio. The former was limited to 800x600, and
    the latter didn't play sounds at all.

    But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for
    others". You remind me the joke: "Can you tell me where I can find a prostitue? It's not for me, it's for a friend." You are pathetic.

    My experience is that whether Windows or Linux, I need to maintain it
    for others. If I use my mother as an example of a very basic user, she encounters as many problems whether she uses one or the other. Heck, she managed to screw up a Mac. The operating system that's given her the
    least amount of problems though is Windows 11. Somehow, that thing
    resists her destructive nature. Meanwhile, everything works great for me
    dad regardless of whether it is MacOS, Windows or Linux. Nevertheless,
    he had a preference for Linux Mint when I had that installed for him
    because it stayed out of his way and only did what it was supposed to.

    < snip >
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    Matthew 7:15
    John 14:6
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 13:45:24 2026
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    On 16/08/2026 12:55, vallor wrote:
    At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe<lt666@sixsixsix.net>
    wrote:

    Ahoy Pie R8s!

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.
    I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't
    had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths
    of "TINW"? Beats me.

    I keep a working copy of Windows XP...
    --
    Of what good are dead warriors? rCa Warriors are those who desire battle
    more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
    their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
    battle dance and dream of glory rCa The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
    that they are dead.
    Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 13:01:38 2026
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    At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:45:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 16/08/2026 12:55, vallor wrote:
    At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe<lt666@sixsixsix.net>
    wrote:

    Ahoy Pie R8s!

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.
    I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't
    had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths
    of "TINW"? Beats me.

    I keep a working copy of Windows XP...

    Slightly less orthogonal than the logic puzzle presented by
    Farley Thorpe (or whatever he calls himself now).

    BTW, your sig reminded me of a quote:

    Of what good are dead warriors? rCa Warriors are those who desire
    battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those
    who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who
    leap high the battle dance and dream of glory rCa The good of dead
    warriors, Mother, > is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The
    Awakeners.

    "It is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek
    and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more
    blood, more vengeance, more desolation."
    -General William Tecumseh Sherman
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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 16 14:30:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 02:26:27 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    WHY the fuck would you install Win ??????????????


    I thought that the OP made that very clear.

    The dregs of the world, and especially the corporate dregs,
    utilize software that have no GNU/Linux versions. To accommodate
    these dregs, if the occasion should arrive, it requires
    an M$ Win system at the ready. I will keep a dedicated machine
    for that purpose.

    I refer to professional software such as AutoCAD, SolidWorks,
    PSpice, etc.

    When it comes to pro software, it is all about the GUI, and
    the developers of these programs are so entrenched in M$ Win
    GUI frameworks that they could never port to GNU/Linux. Never.

    There are some notable exceptions (Mathematica, Maple, and
    Matlab) but by and large the pro world runs on M$ Win.
    This is regrettable. This is unfortunate. But it is
    also reality.

    I am not knocking GNU/Linux. I prefer it and use it for
    much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
    only M$ Win.

    Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
    to install Win11.

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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 14:48:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 11:55:19 +0000, vallor wrote:


    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.

    I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't
    had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths
    of "TINW"? Beats me.


    Another one needs to go shopping for a dunce cap:

    <https://masquerade.com/products/dunce-cap>

    The "we" signifies all GNU/Linux users/advocates.


    BTW, I know you're excited about your latest MS Windows purchase,
    but I can't see how that is on topic for colm.

    Also, you didn't compare MS Windows to Linux, so it's off-topic
    in cola, too.


    Spare us the nanny lectures.

    What do you do if someone sends you an AutoCAD file? It won't
    open in FreeCAD and so you are stuck unless you maintain an
    M$ Win machine.

    Although mostly unspoken and forbidden, a part of using GNU/Linux
    is also being able to use M$ Win.

    Think of a tourist traveling in some underdeveloped shithole
    country. He must be prepared to deal with the natives on their
    primitive level rather than expect them to rise up to his advanced
    level.

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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 15:13:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 16 Aug 2026 08:45:01 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:


    I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to
    maintain a working version of Win11.


    Imagine yourself sitting and working on your GNU/Linux
    machine.

    An email from the boss arrives containing an AutoCAD file
    for immediate review or a Word document with uncommon formatting
    (e.g. tables with fields and formulas) for immediate modification.
    Neither file will open in GNU/Linux software. What do you do?

    I would simply write the files to a USB thumb drive, with
    VFAT formatting, and carry it over to my M$ Win machine.
    When finished, I would reverse the process.



    But it's not true anymore. Anyone can use Linux today, it's easier than Windows. Except you who need to maintain a version of Win11 "for
    others".


    Yes, for others.

    I still receive some email that contains multi-part messages with the
    HTML part formatted in Quoted-Printible that is produced by the M$ Outhouse email software.

    My GNU/Linux email client can't read it. I have to save it to file
    and then convert with recode:

    recode us/QP..us <QP.txt >Ascii.txt

    It is a burden but it further demonstrates that stupid M$ methodologies permeate the world and the GNU/Linux user must be prepared for them.


    You see? You prove my point. You barely manage to have a Linux computer
    that barely work, but you can't manage to have a working Windows. So
    Linux is easier than Windows.


    I see only the reality of your SIMPLE MIND.

    You are a simpleton and all of your opinions are invalid.


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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 16:14:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:13:33 +0000, Leroy H wrote:

    Holy holy! After just the install of the OS components, Task Manager
    shows 21% RAM usage!

    There are 16 Gb of RAM on this machine.

    Any OS that requires that much RAM is a pile of junk.

    M$ Win 11 is a pile of junk.

    But I need it.

    For the dregs.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 16 17:44:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote:
    I am not knocking GNU/Linux. I prefer it and use it for
    much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
    only M$ Win.

    So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff

    I don't

    Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
    to install Win11.

    Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented
    user.
    --
    A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
    its shoes.

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  • From L Thorpe@lt666@sixsixsix.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 16 17:01:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:44:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


    I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented
    user.


    You are receiving a supremely potent free and open (as in freedom)
    OS at no cost (as in free beer).

    Every GNU/Linux/FOSS user must in return give something back to the
    community.

    If you can't program or debug then you can at the very least advocate.

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 20:15:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 13:01:38 +0000, vallor wrote:

    "It is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek
    and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more
    blood, more vengeance, more desolation."
    -General William Tecumseh Sherman

    He said as he marched to the sea... We set up a molding plant in Madison
    GA. It prided itself on being the only town Sherman didn't burn.
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 20:25:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    [ newsgroups snecked ] At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:44:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote:
    I am not knocking GNU/Linux. I prefer it and use it for
    much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
    only M$ Win.

    So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff

    I don't

    Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
    to install Win11.

    Nobody is disputing that.

    The issue is that you said you used Linux "exclusively", but in
    the same breath said you used Win11.

    Make up your damned mind.

    Also, you posted your reply using different handle than the OP.

    Again: make up your damned mind.


    Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a
    contented user.

    Sorry to piggyback on your post, but laughing boy can't make
    up his d...well, you get the idea.
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 20:26:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 16 Aug 2026 08:45:01 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:

    Who are "we"? I know you're not alone in your head but that doesn't
    explain it. I'm not included in your "we". I really don't need to
    maintain a working version of Win11.

    I have a Win11 laptop that I boot up once a month to apply updates. The sticking point for me is the Garmin Express app that is used to update the Garmin GPS in my car. The app is only available on Windows and Mac.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 16 23:42:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 8/16/26 12:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 16/08/2026 15:30, Leroy H wrote:
    I am not knocking GNU/Linux.-a I prefer it and use it for
    much paid ($$$) pro work but the dregs of the world know
    only M$ Win.

    So you need it professionally. Fairy Nuff

    I don't

    I had to "know it professionally" for a LONG
    time. Big offices full of M$ boxes - and NOBODY
    was gonna change, couldn't COPE.

    Now the whole "back-end", I changed that to Linux
    as fast as possible. Didn't even have M$ on my
    personal box there. Good servers/networking/net/
    routing/etc ... use Linux !

    The new guys, they totally sold out to M$.

    It's gonna BITE sooner or later - probably sooner.

    But then they can BLAME it on M$ - "Not OUR Fault !!!".

    Thus, it is not inappropriate for the GNU/Linux advocate
    to install Win11.

    Well that's OK because I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented user.

    ALL I ever use. The Better Plan.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Aug 17 00:12:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 8/16/26 07:55, vallor wrote:
    At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:45:49 +0000, L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net>
    wrote:

    Ahoy Pie R8s!

    Even though I use GNU/Linux exclusively we all need to maintain
    a working version of Win11.

    I've been pondering this koan for a little while now, and I haven't
    had the "aha" moment yet. Maybe it can be found plumbing the depths
    of "TINW"? Beats me.

    BTW, I know you're excited about your latest MS Windows purchase,
    but I can't see how that is on topic for colm.

    Also, you didn't compare MS Windows to Linux, so it's off-topic
    in cola, too.

    Hey, "Linux" news comes around slowly. This MAY
    be a good sign - shows how STABLE it is under
    the proverbial hood ('bonnet' for the Brits).

    A few years back I was bitching about how FEW
    posts there were in colm. The group was in
    danger of just fading away, like so many others.
    It'd be a terrible waste.

    SO ... I'm pretty happy to see a stream of threads
    here even IF they're "off topic" sometimes. Keeps
    everything ALIVE. And yea, we DO see valid Linux-
    related questions/reports/solutions OFTEN ENOUGH.

    People are people are people. You may want to imagine
    they're on some ultra-narrow mindset, but they all
    are interested in LOTS of other shit too.

    Cope.

    So, at times, COLM might look like a political or
    philosophical group. This is the 'keep alive' noise.
    BUT, every time somebody breeches a real Linux issue
    I see LOTS of people jump in.

    This is good.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Aug 17 00:52:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 8/16/26 13:01, L Thorpe wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:44:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


    I am not a Linux/Unix advocate. I am a contented
    user.


    You are receiving a supremely potent free and open (as in freedom)
    OS at no cost (as in free beer).

    Every GNU/Linux/FOSS user must in return give something back to the community.

    If you can't program or debug then you can at the very least advocate.

    Kinda agreed ... but SOME don't Get It.

    M$ is a DISASTER of an OS. Apple, well, it's
    JUST as greedy. It now plans to "lease" iPhones
    and such - you NEVER own one, can NEVER pay
    them off, NEVER quit. $$$ for Apple FOREVER now
    matter HOW shitty they get.

    Long long back, Bill Gates/M$ were sort of HEROES.
    DOS 1.x/2.x/3.x were GOOD for the period and M$
    wasn't all twisted about you copying their stuff
    or compilers and such.

    And then it all went SO BAD ...

    At some point soon I'm gonna need to buy a
    half-ass big-screen "phone". HATE 'em. Keep
    a little FLIP as my mobile now. My carrier is
    not gonna support my great old landline much
    longer - they've already raised the PRICE
    insanely, hoping I'll quit. Clue, I'm NOT
    gonna buy the new crap-phone from THEM - but
    from another. Pref Android. Samsung phones
    are gonna be IT.

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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Aug 17 10:32:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-08-16, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> wrote:

    The "we" signifies all GNU/Linux users/advocates.

    If you're still talking "needing Windows 11" not ALL Linux users need it. I definitely don't.
    --
    Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jews. Zionism rea Judaism.
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