• Another Cloud Sucker Suffers His Fate

    From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Aug 13 18:46:35 2026
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    Another cloud sucker suffers his fate:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/cloud-storage/nine-pbs-loses-access-to-70-years-of-data-after-contracted-cloud-storage-vendor-goes-defunct-public-tv-channel-sues-iron-mountain-data-center-which-hosts-archival-materials-to-ensure-preservation>


    Stupidity can't be fixed.

    That's why Micro$lop continues to exist.

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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Aug 13 17:59:25 2026
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    On 2026-08-13 2:46 p.m., Leroy H wrote:
    Another cloud sucker suffers his fate:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/cloud-storage/nine-pbs-loses-access-to-70-years-of-data-after-contracted-cloud-storage-vendor-goes-defunct-public-tv-channel-sues-iron-mountain-data-center-which-hosts-archival-materials-to-ensure-preservation>


    Stupidity can't be fixed.

    That's why Micro$lop continues to exist.
    Yeah, the cloud is definitely more practicality than security. I too got
    my sutff off of the cloud a while back. I backup _to_ the cloud rather
    than treat the computer as a backup.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    Matthew 7:15
    John 14:6
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Aug 13 18:05:46 2026
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    On 8/13/2026 5:59 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-08-13 2:46 p.m., Leroy H wrote:

    Another cloud sucker suffers his fate:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/cloud-storage/nine-pbs-loses-
    access-to-70-years-of-data-after-contracted-cloud-storage-vendor-goes-
    defunct-public-tv-channel-sues-iron-mountain-data-center-which-hosts-
    archival-materials-to-ensure-preservation>


    Stupidity can't be fixed.

    That's why Micro$lop continues to exist.

    Yeah, the cloud is definitely more practicality than security. I too got
    my sutff off of the cloud a while back. I backup _to_ the cloud rather
    than treat the computer as a backup.


    I have OneDrive with my 365 subscription, I primarily wanted it for
    Outlook, I still use LO Writer over MS Word, but I have Word if I ever
    want it, and of course Copilot.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From Nick Charles@none@none.none to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Aug 13 23:04:45 2026
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    On Aug 13, 2026 at 2:46:35rC>PM EDT, "Leroy H" <lh@somewhere.net> wrote:

    Another cloud sucker suffers his fate:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/cloud-storage/nine-pbs-loses-access-to-70-years-of-data-after-contracted-cloud-storage-vendor-goes-defunct-public-tv-channel-sues-iron-mountain-data-center-which-hosts-archival-materials-to-ensure-preservation>


    Stupidity can't be fixed.

    That's why Micro$lop continues to exist.

    Except that Microsoft is not mentioned in the story. In fact, their backup vendor was called "Open Source Storage".

    Giggle. Snort. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    But it WAS extremely stupid to not have local backups using inexpensive local hardware.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Aug 13 23:02:13 2026
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    On 8/13/26 14:46, Leroy H wrote:
    Another cloud sucker suffers his fate:

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/software/cloud-storage/nine-pbs-loses-access-to-70-years-of-data-after-contracted-cloud-storage-vendor-goes-defunct-public-tv-channel-sues-iron-mountain-data-center-which-hosts-archival-materials-to-ensure-preservation>


    Stupidity can't be fixed.

    That's why Micro$lop continues to exist.

    "Cloud" should always be the backup for your
    backups - not anything primary (and don't
    forget to encrypt what's up there because
    you shouldn't trust the bastards one inch !).

    "We don't NEED our own infrastructure or
    tech geek ! M$ will do it all !"

    Few seem to GET it these days. Gigantic
    disaster looms. If Xi pushes the big shiny
    red button on his desk the West goes DOWN,
    hard.

    Note the REAL reason behind "M$ can do it
    all" - office POLITICS. If M$ or whomever
    fails you can BLAME THEM, no blame on YOU.
    Butt-covering, not real safety/redundancy,
    is the prime concern.

    Been there, seen it, warned about it - then
    RETIRED.

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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Aug 14 04:15:05 2026
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    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:02:13 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    "Cloud" should always be the backup for your
    backups


    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download
    50 Tb from a remote server using the standard pipes.

    That much data is better stored locally.

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Aug 14 01:12:16 2026
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    On 8/14/26 00:15, Leroy H wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:02:13 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    "Cloud" should always be the backup for your
    backups


    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download
    50 Tb from a remote server using the standard pipes.

    That much data is better stored locally.

    But they probably fired all their REAL computer
    geeks, who would have TOLD them that - and had
    alt schemes.

    As said, 'cloud'-everything is both laziness AND
    a deliberate butt-covering exercise by admins.

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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Aug 14 07:25:21 2026
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    Am 14.08.26 um 06:15 schrieb Leroy H:
    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download
    50 Tb from a remote server using the standard pipes.

    46 days with 100 MBit/s.
    I assume they have faster connections.
    --
    Gru|f
    Marco

    Please send unsolicited mail to dustbin12@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de
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  • From Woozy Song@suzyw0ng@outlook.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Aug 14 17:10:54 2026
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    Leroy H wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:02:13 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    "Cloud" should always be the backup for your
    backups


    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download
    50 Tb from a remote server using the standard pipes.

    That much data is better stored locally.


    Porque no los dos?
    better to have local and remote backups
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Aug 14 05:21:10 2026
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    On 8/14/2026 5:10 AM, Woozy Song wrote:
    Leroy H wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:02:13 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    -a-a-a "Cloud" should always be the backup for your
    -a-a-a backups

    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download
    50 Tb from a remote server using the standard pipes.

    That much data is better stored locally.

    Porque no los dos?
    better to have local and remote backups


    You're talking to a guy who projects beyond imagination, heh, he
    *decries* the use of *any* mainstream distro of Linux, favoring using
    Gentoo and Linux From Scratch as if they were for general-purpose installation, rather than experimental installations. Totally nutty, ridiculous character.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Aug 14 14:11:58 2026
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    On 14/08/2026 05:15, Leroy H wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:02:13 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    "Cloud" should always be the backup for your
    backups


    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download
    50 Tb from a remote server using the standard pipes.

    That much data is better stored locally.

    faster to load onto 13 4TB drives and drive it over
    --
    I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
    ...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

    Richard Feynman



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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Aug 14 18:27:00 2026
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    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 14:11:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 14/08/2026 05:15, Leroy H wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:02:13 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    "Cloud" should always be the backup for your backups


    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download 50 Tb from a remote
    server using the standard pipes.

    That much data is better stored locally.

    faster to load onto 13 4TB drives and drive it over

    Sneakernet lives!
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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Aug 14 21:36:18 2026
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    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:04:45 +0000, Nick Charles wrote:


    Stupidity can't be fixed.

    That's why Micro$lop continues to exist.

    Except that Microsoft is not mentioned in the story. In fact, their backup vendor was called "Open Source Storage".

    Giggle. Snort. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


    I do thank you for providing such a clear proof of my assertion.

    However, for your enlightenment, the whole point of the
    original article was to declare that uploading data to a
    "cloud" provider is like doing business with a bank that
    is not insured by FDIC.

    Any business can fail, and when it does the client is SOL.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Aug 15 13:15:24 2026
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    Le 14-08-2026, Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> a |-crit-a:
    Leroy H wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 23:02:13 -0400, c186282 wrote:


    "Cloud" should always be the backup for your
    backups


    Assuming that they can somehow get their data restored,
    can anyone guess how long it would take to download
    50 Tb from a remote server using the standard pipes.

    That much data is better stored locally.


    Porque no los dos?
    better to have local and remote backups

    Because he's a moron. Don't put all your eggs in one basket as the
    saying goes. If all your backups are close to your computer, the day
    your house in on fire or a thieve come in your house or whatever, you
    loose your backup at the same time as you are loosing your computer. So,
    yes remote backups are essential and pretending otherwise is just plain
    dead stupid (as the halfwit who wrote the message you are answering).

    Yes the cloud can remove your access without notice. But what, if you
    have more than one way, issues won't all happen at the same and you'll
    have time to find another way before it's too late.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps |a perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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