• Ping chrisv -- do you have a ready data file of "the things" lies?

    From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Aug 13 11:45:35 2026
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    Dear Mr. Chris,

    It appears you may have a ready source of quotes of
    you-know-who: they guy that has told whopper after
    whopper (but no one can quote him lying, as he alleges).

    I would like to begin quoting his "unquotable lies", until
    he stops making excuses, or otherwise admits he is far from
    the "honest and honorable" person he claims to be.

    This is in alt.computer.workshop, which could actually become
    a useful newsgroup if the resident 2 1/2 liars were to be shamed
    properly.

    Could I ask you to post them here, or perhaps in
    alt.computer.workshop, so that I can ram them down his
    squeaky little throat? I would be in your debt.

    TIA.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Aug 13 13:47:03 2026
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    On Aug 13, 2026 at 4:45:35rC>AM MST, "vallor" wrote <115kaov$1jl9q$1@dont-email.me>:

    Dear Mr. Chris,

    It appears you may have a ready source of quotes of
    you-know-who: they guy that has told whopper after
    whopper (but no one can quote him lying, as he alleges).

    Easy to catch you in lies. :)


    I would like to begin quoting his "unquotable lies", until
    he stops making excuses, or otherwise admits he is far from
    the "honest and honorable" person he claims to be.

    You morons have been trying to catch me in a lie for years... and you are
    still begging each other to even TRY to find one. That is hilarious.

    What you do is find quotes you disagree with. Often without needed context.

    This is in alt.computer.workshop, which could actually become
    a useful newsgroup if the resident 2 1/2 liars were to be shamed
    properly.

    Could I ask you to post them here, or perhaps in
    alt.computer.workshop, so that I can ram them down his
    squeaky little throat? I would be in your debt.

    LOL! You are begging other trolls to help you find a lie you cannot find... even as you insist I am lying.

    In short: you are lying. Saying something you know you cannot show. Hoping beyond hope someone now can rescue you.

    The irony is hilarious.

    TIA.
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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Aug 16 20:11:12 2026
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    vallor wrote:

    Dear Mr. Chris,

    It appears you may have a ready source of quotes of
    you-know-who: they guy that has told whopper after
    whopper (but no one can quote him lying, as he alleges).

    I would like to begin quoting his "unquotable lies", until
    he stops making excuses, or otherwise admits he is far from
    the "honest and honorable" person he claims to be.

    This is in alt.computer.workshop, which could actually become
    a useful newsgroup if the resident 2 1/2 liars were to be shamed
    properly.

    Could I ask you to post them here, or perhaps in
    alt.computer.workshop, so that I can ram them down his
    squeaky little throat? I would be in your debt.

    TIA.

    NP. Below is my archive of that thing's snittery and lies. Good luck
    shaming it, though. That thing cannot be shamed. It will just
    continue to lie and deny.

    https://groups.google.com/search?q=messageid:BC20B927.3972D%snit@nospam-cableone.net
    "I have no idea who Sigmond is. Maybe someone who snuck into my
    house."

    "[Sandman] already admitted he attributes the words of others to me"
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Sandman alters images saying he just happened to have it" - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying) http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/wifedenial

    "Carroll already admitted it was him [flooding the newsgroup] by
    posting from one of his normal accounts under his own name." - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Your screenshot is proved fake. Done." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Both PDF's came from you [Steve Mackey]." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Caught Steve Mackay in *another* big lie"

    See here, for the entire *hilarious* thread, the "Snit" thing *lying*
    it's ass off, to no avail: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/c/UBoZtO1I4fg/m/IjXeRu6DjYYJ

    aMackay is just pissed I caught him in some liesA - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying) Full *hilarious*
    thread, here: <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/UBoZtO1I4fg/2LKHHKv3fNYJ>

    "I am *very* interested to see if an IP can be found under or behind
    the changed font that Mackay placed there."

    "OEMs can get Linux for free. And yet, even with Linux being cheaper
    for OEMs (*free*, as in no-cost), they still generally recommend
    Windows. Why?" - some thing

    "Pretty much just described your herd who thinks you have to be 100%
    with Linux or you are evil." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no
    one can quote it lying)

    "Many claim, for example, that I have lied... but *none* can find any
    example of this. Not a single example." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "A number of people in COLA told me that LibreOffice is fine without
    being able to rotate images." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but
    no one can quote it lying)

    "Many of these same people argue *against* me when I advocate for
    desktop Linux growing to provide the user with *more* choice." -
    some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "As I have noted, [TomB] and most of the herd are not very technical."
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    '[Realizing that Linux is not the best choice for every home user] is
    what I think and I am deemed "anti-Linux" because of it... by you and
    your herd of false "advocates".' - some thing, lying shamelessly
    (but no one can quote it lying)

    '[TomB] even at one point claimed that having a system act as a system
    is "opposed to what GNU/Linux is all about".' - some thing, lying
    shamelessy (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Some Linux users were very much against the idea of choice if people
    did not choose Linux." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one
    can quote it lying)

    "My whole claim is that JPGs can and often do have EXIF data (but need
    not to). [Peter K] claims I am wrong." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "One [jpeg] was quickly replaced once I noted the EXIF data." - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Amazing how much it frustrates you that Linux programs, almost by
    necessity, are made for the lowest common denominator" - some thing

    'Pretty much what you do with your "snipped, unread" nonsense. You
    clearly are lying when you say that.' - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Why the heck are the "advocates" so much against choice?" - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Comes down to I am seen as better and more honest than most in COLA"
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "I tend to take people at their word." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    'Pretty much what you do with your "snipped, unread" nonsense. You
    clearly are lying when you say that.' - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Snit, do the world a favor and hang yourself in the garage." - Marek
    Novotny

    Turn off your kill file for a second and see how man times Snit and
    his socks have posted in the last couple hours... This loser is gone
    completely off the rails." - Marek Novotny

    "Michael Glasser is the most clueless moron I've ever met." - Marek
    Novotny

    "Peter made up an idiotic lie and you jumped all over it without
    thinking. Then you deny you are a herd. You just proved it again." -
    some thing, lying three times in one short post (but no one can quote
    it lying).

    "Once again you guys focus on my life. Sigh." - some thing,
    screwing-up and posting as "zevon", in <o55ugu$k2m$1@gioia.aioe.org>

    'Well, the "advocates" claim that if something is desired then OSS
    will be made to fit the need.' - some thing, lying shamelessly

    "This is similar to how [owl] failed to understand how a text editor
    and a word processor are not the same..." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "[Apple users are making] the same [preparations] you are making, I
    assume, for the transition to desktop Android to be forced as your
    primary desktop OS. :)" - some thing, too *stupid* to understand
    that, unlike Apple users, GNU/Linux users cannot be forced. GNU/Linux
    users have software Freedom.

    "If true you would not have to say it." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "chrisv claims I tell lies but cannot quote any" - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "[Gremlin] told clear fabrications about me having altered online
    databases." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    Michael Glasser is the most clueless moron I've ever met.

    "Easy to do but your wording is absurd." - some thing, "wisely"
    talking to a gibberish-posting flood-bot.

    "Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS
    handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me." -
    some thing, shamelessly dishonest

    "Which is more important to you: freedom for people or freedom for
    code?" - some thing, attacking the GPL

    "What if the user has 4000 files on a recent used file list?" - some
    thing

    "But you will not actually show any actual tasks (Linux) allows you to
    do better than the competition... for obvious reasons (you cannot
    think of any)." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "People are not going to migrate to desktop Linux until the open
    source community gets its act together." - some thing

    'To call something with restrictions "Free" is hypocritical...
    Stallman uses absurd double talk in his cult BS.' - some thing

    "[TomB] even claimed that when I noted how desktop Linux was becoming
    more efficient, productive, and better at error reduction this was
    somehow against the open source philosophy." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Why not show how Linux is superior? I know you can't but why not
    give it a try?" - some thing

    'That everyday anxiety over making the wrong choice is why having a
    vast selection of choices tends to make people less happy in general.
    After all, once you make the decision and get locked in, you never
    stop thinking "What if."' - some thing, lying shamelessly

    "And this is what Stallman's real problem with Jobs and Apple are. He
    loathes that they have success in ways he cannot even imagine." -
    some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "They post with false FB accounts (which quickly get cancelled, and
    then Sandman alters images saying he just happened to have it)" -
    some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying). For
    the truth, see http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/wifedenial

    "It is not that you think I am a liar -- you are not stupid enough to
    really think that -- you just hate the fact I am honest." - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Which is more important to you: freedom for people or freedom for
    code?" - some thing, attacking the GPL

    "I only had one instance of terminal running (you can have two but it
    is not the norm... so uncommon Sandman said it was not even
    possible)." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    "and this is *wrong*." - some ignorant, serially-lying thing,
    judging how Linux handles NTFS.

    'I have noted before how the herd sees me as a god... now one has come
    right out and referred to me as a "creator"... another term for God.
    And *none* of the herd will call him out on it.' - some thing

    "Peter asked for people to help him find a built-in GUI app on the
    Mac." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    "A number of people in COLA told me that LibreOffice is fine without
    being able to rotate images." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but
    no one can quote it lying)

    "It is not that you think I am a liar -- you are not stupid enough to
    really think that -- you just hate the fact I am honest." - some
    stupid, serially-lying thing

    "Sandman alters images saying he just happened to have it" - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying) http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/wifedenial

    "I like things to be more open and flexible." - some serially-lying
    thing / Mac-fan

    "In COLA if you do not use Linux only the herd goes after you... even
    though most admit they ALSO use a mix. It is weird." - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "[Peter] admitted that when he had to pick just one system he selected
    his (older!) Mac because it serves his needs / handles tasks better
    than any other system he has." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but
    no one can quote it lying)

    "Are you saying the file Tattoo Vampire currently has posted has no
    EXIF data? If so then the file has been changed." - some thing,
    baselessly accusing an honest advocate of lying, rather than admit to
    having made a mistake.

    "But you will not actually show any actual tasks [Linux] allows you to
    do better than the competition... for obvious reasons (you cannot
    think of any)." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "It is to the point where Sandman pretends to be so ignorant of the
    Internet that he insists people who use the same proxy must be the
    same person and that Carroll becomes different people when he uses
    different accounts." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "People in COLA see me as being an expert in most areas and ask me to
    join the conversation." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one
    can quote it lying)

    "where private property is forced into communal hands" - some thing,
    lying shamelessly, to attack the GPL.

    "[Peter] asked me to HELP him by taking on a challenge about a GUI
    tool. Absolutely he wanted help." - some thing, lying shamelessly
    (but no one can quote it lying)

    '[Sandman] also considers "proof" to be "meaningless"... which is
    quite telling.' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "Except for virtual desktops. Those are the MUST HAVE feature because
    Linux has them." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "And it shows that Peter had no idea what EXIF data was... and *none*
    of the herd came in to correct him, even though others were engaged in
    the conversation. They presented themselves as people who were
    completely ignorant of the concept of EXIF data." - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "You think Stallman has reached his ideal. OK, you are just completely
    tied to his cult and cannot see the world outside of it. Your mistake,
    given that, is understandable." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but
    no one can quote it lying)

    "And there are the common sour grapes from the herd... trying to tell
    others that their choices are bad." - some thing, lying shamelessly
    (but no one can quote it lying)

    "[Sandman] forged a screenshot. Already proved." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Then you say GNU/Linux is an OS, but ceases to be once distributed."
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Peter K hlmann insisted the "Open Recent" feature is based on
    hardlinks." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    "Owl is asking for help in a public forum" - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "This is similar to how [owl] failed to understand how a text editor
    and a word processor are not the same." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "So it comes down to [Peter K] simply cannot figure out how to watch a
    YouTube video from Linux. OK." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but
    no one can quote it lying)

    "I have noted before how the herd sees me as a god." - some thing

    "You are arguing Linux handles double click better. Peter argued it
    did not have the feature at all." - some thing, lying shamelessly
    (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Wow... Peter denies desktop Linux has double clicking. That is just
    AMAZING!" - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    'Peter K hlmann insisted the "Open Recent" feature is based on
    hardlinks.' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    'It is amazing... Roy asks me a question. I answer. chrisv whines
    that he needs to be "educated".' - some thing, lying shamelessly
    (but no one can quote it lying)

    "When I make mistakes I am happy to admit to them" - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Comes down to I am seen as better and more honest than most in COLA"
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "JPG files can have EXIF data... what an amazingly controversial
    claim!" - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    'I would like to see a single "advocate" show they understand the
    value of the "Open Recent" list in a program. So far none have. I
    admit - I still am shocked by how little the "advocates" know about
    using computers.' - some thing

    "The comment is not from anyone in my family." - some thing,
    shamelessly lying about
    <http://usenet.sandman.net/files/anne_comment.png> (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "Remember: I have never posted to COLA with any name other than Snit.
    Never. Your accusation is 100% unsupportable. It is a lie." - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Notice: no evidence of ME lying as YOU lie about me using socks" -
    some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "This is common in COLA... people see me as more knowledgeable than
    they do most others... your actions show YOU do." - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Many claim, for example, that I have lied... but *none* can find any
    example of this. Not a single example." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    'Could be... lots of "advocates" fear my honesty.' - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "When has (Hadron defended Microsoft)? Please quote him doing so. But
    you will not. Ever." - some thing lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "it is trivial to point to where you lied (you claimed I use socks)."
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Meanwhile it is easy to point to recent quotes of your herd
    questioning why one would want basic features like the ability to
    rotate an image one has imported into a word processor." - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Ah, so you think it is impossible to put someone else's email in a
    Usenet post." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote
    it lying)

    "The people in here generally *all* want Linux to do well. Why else
    would be we here if we did not?" - some thing, lying shamelessly
    (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Ah, in your mind OS X and Windows use Wayland. Amazing." - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Why was cc begging ME to help him understand programming concepts."
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "but when I noted JPG files could have EXIF data I was repeatedly told
    I was wrong, lying, an idiot, etc. Funny stuff." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "You claim two PEOPLE kissing grosses you out." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Unlike [owl], without using any manpage or anything else I know they
    mean a folder in the user's home folder." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "[Tattoo Vampire] makes up stories about EXIF data changing based on
    what date you open or download a file." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Yet you told me to download Arch." - some thing, lying shamelessly
    to TomB (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Peter is the one who, when talking about desktop systems (distro for
    Linux), jumped to KDE and GNOME. He thought they were like Ubuntu or
    Mint or PCLOS. But, of course, the herd will NEVER call him out on
    his massive ignorance of Linux and its ecosystem." - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "So it comes down to you simply cannot figure out how to watch a
    YouTube video from Linux." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no
    one can quote it lying)

    "Peter admits viewing a YouTube video is too challenging for him! LOL!
    That is just priceless!" - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one
    can quote it lying)

    "I post to COLA as Snit. Only name I have ever used." - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Then you say GNU/Linux is an OS, but ceases to be once
    distributed..." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "Many claim, for example, that I have lied... but *none* can find any
    example of this. Not a single example." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "[Peter] thought [KDE and GNOME] were like Ubuntu or Mint or PCLOS.
    But, of course, the herd will NEVER call him out on his massive
    ignorance of Linux and its ecosystem.' - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Peter is the one who, when talking about desktop systems (distro for
    Linux), jumped to KDE and GNOME. He thought they were like Ubuntu or
    Mint or PCLOS. But, of course, the herd will NEVER call him out on
    his massive ignorance of Linux and its ecosystem." - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "My computer came without Windows... and I have seen people claim you
    cannot get one without it." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no
    one can quote it lying)

    "Remember: I have never posted to COLA with any name other than Snit.
    Never. Your accusation is 100% unsupportable. It is a lie." - some
    thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    'The funny thing is how many of the false "advocates" jumped up and
    down and agreed with Ballmer about the iPhone.' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    'If you do not use (or claim to use) Linux exclusively you are deemed
    a "troll" by the herd.' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one
    can quote it lying)


    "amazing Linux does as poorly as it does given its lack of cost" -
    some thing

    "I do wish people could be honest in their disagreement." - some serially-lying thing

    "If Freedom is so important to people in COLA, why not move to a more
    Free system?" - some thing, attacking the GPL and its supporters

    "1% of the market even though it can be had for *free*." - some
    thing

    "But to say [Linux] should not be used for what it was designed for,
    as [TomB] did, shows pretty deep ignorance of the whole purpose of
    Linux." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    "what does it say about desktop Linux, which you can get for free,
    being at such a low percentage?" - some thing

    "The problem with Linux is too LITTLE choice. There is a bunch of
    false choice where you have a million desktop distros *all* tied to
    the same limited open source ecosystem." - some thing


    "But to say [Linux] should not be used for what it was designed for,
    as [TomB] did, shows pretty deep ignorance of the whole purpose of
    Linux." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    "Since when is two guys kissing *not* gross?" "If two men kiss, I
    flip the channel." - "owl"

    -----------------

    'You "work" in a room with a month-old calendar.' - Shit

    "but when I noted JPG files could have EXIF data I was repeatedly told
    I was wrong, lying, an idiot, etc. Funny stuff." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Yeah, it was horrible for me to note that JPGs *can* have EXIF data.
    LOL! And years later you are *still* saying I am wrong about that!" -
    some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "And in next weeks lesson we shall discuss EXIF data!" - Shit

    "I trusted most in COLA are fully able to view EXIF data on their own.
    Really. I do admit, though, it seems I was wrong about that." -
    some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "I noted EXIF data contains dates. Seriously, I am surprised how many
    people in COLA did not know that." - some thing, lying shamelessly
    (but no one can quote it lying)

    "I am *not* going to teach you how to find EXIF data. Go look it up."
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Now we know why you could not find the EXIF data on your images until
    I pointed it out. :)" - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one
    can quote it lying)

    "I was *repeatedly* asked how I was able to find EXIF data on a jpg."
    - Shit, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Oh, speaking of the EXIF data silliness did you see Peter K hlmann
    looking for the EXIF data on Usenet messages ... that was just
    frickin' hilarious..." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one
    can quote it lying)

    --------------------

    "Flatfish" asks: Why are these Linux "advocates" so vile and perverse?
    "Snit" responds: Fear and jealousy.

    "Sadly there is a lot of [copying] in the OSS world. Even OpenOffice
    is clearly an attempt to largely copy MS Office." - some thing

    "(Virtual desktops) do lead to a source of confusion and the added
    need of setting up and deciding where you want what window...
    something quite confusing for many users." - Shit

    'Ah, Linux, the "advantage" of less choice.' - "Snit"

    "From what I understand [Pulse] is fairly similar to SoundFlower" -
    some thing, putting its ignorance on display

    "TomB supports Stallman, who says teens around the world should have
    access to videos of his own daughter being raped, but actively works
    to censor me for speaking about Stallman's views." - "Snit"

    "And that, clearly, shows you do not think highly of yourself." -
    "Snit"

    "Still, do you see your mistake in claiming that my noting Chris's
    name calling of himself was *my* insult?" - some thing

    'But it seems you and many of the other "advocates" are against the
    GUI.' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    You can run KDE software on GNOME and vice versa (as well as other
    DEs) but the challenge is which DE do you design your software to fit
    in with? No matter which you pick you are leaving others in the cold.

    "But to say [Linux] should not be used for what it was designed for,
    as [TomB] did, shows pretty deep ignorance of the whole purpose of
    Linux." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    "The herd wants honesty to leave COLA. They fear it." - some thing,
    lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Distros are now *in* Linux? I thought Linux was one of the
    components *in* a Linux based distro. Interesting." - some thing

    "it was an OS before being distributed he also says" - Shit

    "That is not a gain from a diversity of UIs. A single well designed
    GUI would serve all of the GUI needs just fine." - some thing

    "This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
    gets noticed... it gains a decent user base. Desktop Linux, of
    course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
    has." - some thing, apparently unaware that switching browsers is
    less difficult, risky, and with fewer repercussions, compared to
    switching operating systems

    "The more popular distros do not focus on virtual desktops because
    desktop Linux, for the general user, does not handle them well." -
    some thing

    'Well, the "advocates" claim that if something is desired then OSS
    will be made to fit the need.' - some thing, lying shamelessly (but
    no one can quote it lying)

    "Frankly I have been surprised at how many Linux users have been
    viciously against choice... given that they use the term as a mantra."
    - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "If Ubuntu cannot see the drive /letters/ and can't use the alphabet
    then what good is it?" - Shit (posting as "Rekruled")

    'It does not piss me off that you are hypocritical and defend your
    herd... it is to be expected of the "advocates".' - some thing


    TomB thinks that

    "nobody cares about their information being stolen."

    "a system should not act like a system"

    GNU/Linux "should not be used for what it was designed for"

    GNU/Linux "ceases to be an OS once distributed"

    "[TomB] even claimed that when I noted how desktop Linux was becoming
    more efficient, productive, and better at error reduction this was
    somehow against the open source philosophy." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    'I have noted before how the herd sees me as a god... now one has
    come right out and referred to me as a "creator"... another term for
    God. And *none* of the herd will call him out on it.' - some thing

    That is not a gain from a diversity of UIs. A single well designed
    GUI would serve all of the GUI needs just fine

    "Contrary to the COLA BS, MS not only collects money from patent deals
    but also pays others whose patents they use." - some thing, , lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "As I have noted: you and your herd are not technical... to run from
    these topics you attack those who are more knowledgeable than you and
    your group" - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it
    lying)

    COLA is a very, very non-technical group.

    'That everyday anxiety over making the wrong choice is why having a
    vast selection of choices tends to make people less happy in general.
    After all, once you make the decision and get locked in, you never
    stop thinking "What if."' - some thing, lying shamelessly

    "And if you had a clue as to how the open source world worked you
    would not whine that Apple was using open source software and then
    modifying it as it shared it with the world." - some thing, lying
    shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

    "Apple is put down when they support both closed source and open
    source software." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can
    quote it lying)

    "Right now you call yourselves the "advocates" but that is a silly
    name to call clearly false "advocates" who attack those of us who do
    advocate Linux / OSS." - some thing

    'You buy into the cult-like talk of Stallman and his dishonest use of
    the word "Free".' - some thing

    Interesting moral code: if the license says it then it is OK. Hmmm.

    At least you admit your posts are "trolls". (to TomB)

    4/26/2016:
    John Gohde wrote: Who needs a roomful of monkeys banging on a
    keyboard, when you have Snit?
    some nym-shifting thing, posting as "Richard King": I see you are
    still begging for my attention.

    Marek Novotny documenting multiple "Snit" lies. <54WdnTA5PqUgJujFnZ2dnUU7-UGdnZ2d@giganews.com>


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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon Aug 17 08:41:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 20:11:12 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    Dear Mr. Chris,

    It appears you may have a ready source of quotes of
    you-know-who: they guy that has told whopper after
    whopper (but no one can quote him lying, as he alleges).

    I would like to begin quoting his "unquotable lies", until
    he stops making excuses, or otherwise admits he is far from
    the "honest and honorable" person he claims to be.

    This is in alt.computer.workshop, which could actually become
    a useful newsgroup if the resident 2 1/2 liars were to be shamed
    properly.

    Could I ask you to post them here, or perhaps in
    alt.computer.workshop, so that I can ram them down his
    squeaky little throat? I would be in your debt.

    TIA.

    NP. Below is my archive of that thing's snittery and lies. Good luck shaming it, though. That thing cannot be shamed. It will just
    continue to lie and deny.

    [snip copious list]

    Thank you. I'll be adding a bit of syntax (maybe just % separators,
    like a fortune file), and writing a quick perl script for sig-building.
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