• Re: Distros: The Fast Food Of GNU/Linux

    From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Aug 8 09:45:57 2026
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    Le 02-08-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a |-crit-a:

    How many have decided to install Wayland for themselves?

    I did.

    Answer: No one. Their disrtos made the decision on Wayland
    and they could only helplessly follow suit.

    You know nothing about distros. You should avoid spreading your lack of knowledge. Maybe someone will forgot how limited you are. But as you
    keep saying shit again and again, that won't happen soon.

    The lusers on this group do not represent GNU/Linux USERS,

    They are more Linux USERS than you. When you have an issue with your
    joke of an OS, you'd rather rely on Windows than on a real distro.
    That's not Linux spirit. You are a real Microsoft Windows USER trying
    hard to pretend you know Linux. But you can't fool me. And anyone who
    read more than three of your messages can't be fooled.

    All disagreements are just pathetic attempts to save face
    against the very ugly truth.

    The very truth is you have no idea about what a distro is and how people
    are using their computer. Your answer is: you don't need to learn about something you don't use. Which forces you to say stupidities about
    everything because it's easier to spread nonsense than to learn.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Aug 8 06:03:31 2026
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    On 8/8/2026 5:45 AM, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 02-08-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a |-crit-a:

    The lusers on this group do not represent GNU/Linux USERS,

    They are more Linux USERS than you. When you have an issue with your
    joke of an OS, you'd rather rely on Windows than on a real distro.
    That's not Linux spirit. You are a real Microsoft Windows USER trying
    hard to pretend you know Linux. But you can't fool me. And anyone who
    read more than three of your messages can't be fooled.


    Exactly. He admits using Winblows when he needs to. He wouldn't just
    use Debian, in the first place. Total crazy.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

    Zyprexa - It's not just for schizophrenics, anymore!
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Aug 8 10:54:50 2026
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    Le 04-08-2026, Stanislav N. aka pztrn <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> a |-crit-a:
    04.08.2026 06:25, Leroy H wrote:
    On Mon, 3 Aug 2026 23:34:52 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:


    Think of Slackware as kind of the rCLmissing linkrCY between an earlier
    all-or-nothing installation like SLS, and the later appearance of
    full-function package managers (Debian, Red Hat etc). ItrCOs an
    interesting historical relic, and fun for wannabe geeks who find
    Gentoo or Arch or LFS too much to cope with, but IrCOm not sure why you
    would want to inflict it on ordinary people ...


    Do not ever include that pile-of-garbage ArchLinux with the
    venerable Gentoo and LFS.

    We do thank you.

    Why Arch is a pile-of-garbage?

    Because the half wit who sent the message you are answering needs to
    comfort himself in the belief that he's a Linux master. As he can't
    learn anything, he can only despise and hate everything and everyone.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Aug 8 12:35:14 2026
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    On 08/08/2026 11:54, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 04-08-2026, Stanislav N. aka pztrn <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> a |-crit-a:

    Why Arch is a pile-of-garbage?

    Because the half wit who sent the message you are answering needs to
    comfort himself in the belief that he's a Linux master. As he can't
    learn anything, he can only despise and hate everything and everyone.


    In nutshell, wot e sez.

    Dont look for technical reasons where they are clearly emotional = 'pile-of-garbage'
    --
    The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all
    private property.

    Karl Marx


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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Aug 8 21:19:31 2026
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    On 08 Aug 2026 10:54:50 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:



    Do not ever include that pile-of-garbage ArchLinux with the
    venerable Gentoo and LFS.


    Why Arch is a pile-of-garbage?

    Because the half wit who sent the message you are answering needs to
    comfort himself in the belief that he's a Linux master. As he can't
    learn anything, he can only despise and hate everything and everyone.


    You are wrong again, as usual.

    I do not "despise and hate everything." In fact, I love Gentoo
    and I love LFS and I will do everything in my substantial power
    to advocate them.

    It is true that LFS abandoned their SysV build and now only
    support that junk systemd, but the decision was due solely
    to a manpower shortage and not because they judged systemd
    to be superior.

    GNU/Linux is largely volunteer driven and the better distros,
    like Gentoo and LFS, have trouble attracting good people.
    (That problem is universal across all human endeavors. People
    are mostly drawn toward junk.)



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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Aug 8 21:29:23 2026
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    On 08 Aug 2026 09:45:57 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:


    When you have an issue with your
    joke of an OS, you'd rather rely on Windows than on a real distro.


    All of my former "issues" have been resolved.

    I can now access any web site from my superior, hand-crafted, GNU/Linux installation.

    There is only one single exception but that is somehow due to
    DNS lookup. When I have the time, and the inclination, I will
    also debug this last remaining issue.

    YOU are the one that must rely on a "real distro."

    Sure, I encounter problems on occasion but I will eventually discover
    the cause by way of intelligent debugging.

    YOU cannot do the same. If YOU experience problems then YOU must wait
    until your "real distro" provides a solution. YOU cannot debug because
    YOU cannot understand.

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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Aug 8 21:27:23 2026
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    On 2026-08-08 5:19 p.m., Leroy H wrote:
    On 08 Aug 2026 10:54:50 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:



    Do not ever include that pile-of-garbage ArchLinux with the
    venerable Gentoo and LFS.


    Why Arch is a pile-of-garbage?

    Because the half wit who sent the message you are answering needs to
    comfort himself in the belief that he's a Linux master. As he can't
    learn anything, he can only despise and hate everything and everyone.


    You are wrong again, as usual.

    He's not. People here have gotten used to you being incorrect about everything. Heck, you can't even figure out your own name.

    I do not "despise and hate everything." In fact, I love Gentoo
    and I love LFS and I will do everything in my substantial power
    to advocate them.

    When even their own mothers don't love them, you are there to fill the void.

    It is true that LFS abandoned their SysV build and now only
    support that junk systemd, but the decision was due solely
    to a manpower shortage and not because they judged systemd
    to be superior.

    GNU/Linux is largely volunteer driven and the better distros,
    like Gentoo and LFS, have trouble attracting good people.
    (That problem is universal across all human endeavors. People
    are mostly drawn toward junk.)

    Part of their inability to attract good people is the fact that rotten assholes like you are "advocates" and drive them all away.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    Matthew 7:15
    John 14:6
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  • From Stanislav N. aka pztrn@pztrn@oldproto.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 07:00:35 2026
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    09.08.2026 02:19, Leroy H wrote:
    On 08 Aug 2026 10:54:50 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:



    Do not ever include that pile-of-garbage ArchLinux with the
    venerable Gentoo and LFS.


    Why Arch is a pile-of-garbage?

    Because the half wit who sent the message you are answering needs to
    comfort himself in the belief that he's a Linux master. As he can't
    learn anything, he can only despise and hate everything and everyone.


    You are wrong again, as usual.

    I do not "despise and hate everything." In fact, I love Gentoo
    and I love LFS and I will do everything in my substantial power
    to advocate them.

    You just said that Arch is a pile of garbage. That means you hate it somehow.


    It is true that LFS abandoned their SysV build and now only
    support that junk systemd, but the decision was due solely
    to a manpower shortage and not because they judged systemd
    to be superior.

    GNU/Linux is largely volunteer driven and the better distros,
    like Gentoo and LFS, have trouble attracting good people.
    (That problem is universal across all human endeavors. People
    are mostly drawn toward junk.)


    I was using Gentoo for so long and love it too, despite on fact that I either build GENERIC_DISTRO_NAME kernel by using all drivers as modules OR compile drivers within kernel.

    But after some time I realized that I have work to do, not to recompile whole world because GCC upgrade. That is how Arch became my daily driver for a decade until I've settled on Mac. I still have it on VM for music prods (LMMS is great software, and zynaddsubfx too!).

    Arch is great if you want vanilla software (almost, with MUCH FEWER patches applied than in any other distro) but do not want to hassle with compilation.

    Ah yes, subscribe to arch news by RSS to be posted if manual intervention will be needed and READ IT before upgrade, just like with portage, but not builtin :).
    --
    WBR, Stanislav Nikitin a.k.a. pztrn.

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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 02:41:03 2026
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    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 07:00:35 +0500, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote:


    You just said that Arch is a pile of garbage. That means you hate it somehow.


    Arch is just another mainstream distro and ALL mainstream distros
    are garbage.

    Furthermore, "hate" is the inappropriate term. I have a professional
    and rational detestation for such mainstream distros.


    I was using Gentoo for so long and love it too, despite on fact that
    I either build GENERIC_DISTRO_NAME kernel by using all drivers as modules
    OR compile drivers within kernel.


    You have the option to build the kernel yourself, independent of the
    Gentoo tree and thereby avoid all such issues.

    The fault is entirely YOURS, and not with Gentoo.



    But after some time I realized that I have work to do, not to recompile
    whole world because GCC upgrade.


    ???????????

    There is no reason to recompile world due to a GCC update.

    You are totally mistaken.


    Arch is great if you want vanilla software (almost, with MUCH FEWER patches applied than in any other distro) but do not want to hassle with compilation.


    Let us examine the distributed Arch "bash" program, which is located here:

    <https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/bash/>

    Let us use the "checksec" utility to examine how it was built in terms of "security" features:

    <https://github.com/slimm609/checksec>


    Here is the checksec output:

    RELRO Stack Canary CFI NX PIE RPATH RUNPATH Symbols SafeStack Stack Clash W^X Seg Selfrando Sanitizers FORTIFY Lvl GLIBCXX Assert FORTIFY Fortified Fortifiable Name
    Full RELRO Canary Found SHSTK & IBT NX enabled PIE Enabled No RPATH No RUNPATH No Symbols No SafeStack Found No Probes Enabled No Selfrando None Unknown Unknown Yes 12 17 ./bash


    In stark contrast, here is the checksec output on my customized Gentoo
    bash:

    RELRO Stack Canary CFI NX PIE RPATH RUNPATH Symbols SafeStack Stack Clash W^X Seg Selfrando Sanitizers FORTIFY Lvl GLIBCXX Assert FORTIFY Fortified Fortifiable Name
    No RELRO No Canary Found NO SHSTK & NO IBT NX enabled PIE Disabled No RPATH No RUNPATH No Symbols No SafeStack Found No Probes Enabled No Selfrando None Unknown Unknown No 0 12 /bin/bash


    Notice the extreme difference. The "RELRO," "Stack Canary," "CFI,"
    "PIE," and "Fortify" fields are enabled in Arch but disabled in my
    custom Gentoo build. This is an extremely significant difference
    and it indicates that Arch is garbage and junk.

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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 02:43:55 2026
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    On Sat, 8 Aug 2026 21:27:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:


    [snip gibberish]


    If I had wanted some technical ignoramus imbecile to respond
    to my post I would have pinned it to the bulletin board of the
    nearest retard asylum.

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  • From Stanislav N. aka pztrn@pztrn@oldproto.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 08:39:57 2026
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    09.08.2026 07:41, Leroy H wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 07:00:35 +0500, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote:


    You just said that Arch is a pile of garbage. That means you hate it somehow.


    Arch is just another mainstream distro and ALL mainstream distros
    are garbage.

    Furthermore, "hate" is the inappropriate term. I have a professional
    and rational detestation for such mainstream distros.


    And how many distros you have built from scratch and how many of them are in use by users other than you?


    I was using Gentoo for so long and love it too, despite on fact that
    I either build GENERIC_DISTRO_NAME kernel by using all drivers as modules
    OR compile drivers within kernel.


    You have the option to build the kernel yourself, independent of the
    Gentoo tree and thereby avoid all such issues.

    The fault is entirely YOURS, and not with Gentoo.


    There is nothing to "avoid", I built my kernel from Gentoo tree and it was running fine. I do not understand to what you trying to appeal here. I was able to build vanilla kernel, with gentoo patches and with dozen other patches like Zen. Why should I do that without using Portage to manage kernel's sources if I can?



    But after some time I realized that I have work to do, not to recompile
    whole world because GCC upgrade.


    ???????????

    There is no reason to recompile world due to a GCC update.

    You are totally mistaken.

    So libc update doesn't requiring world rebuild? Whoah, how did they managed it?

    (of course I mean upgrading to new major version which will produce ABI-incompatible libraries and of course not stage4 rebuild but only those packages that requires libc in that example, but you should know that, right?)



    Arch is great if you want vanilla software (almost, with MUCH FEWER patches >> applied than in any other distro) but do not want to hassle with compilation.


    Let us examine the distributed Arch "bash" program, which is located here:

    <https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/bash/>

    Let us use the "checksec" utility to examine how it was built in terms of "security" features:

    <https://github.com/slimm609/checksec>


    Here is the checksec output:

    RELRO Stack Canary CFI NX PIE RPATH RUNPATH Symbols SafeStack Stack Clash W^X Seg Selfrando Sanitizers FORTIFY Lvl GLIBCXX Assert FORTIFY Fortified Fortifiable Name
    Full RELRO Canary Found SHSTK & IBT NX enabled PIE Enabled No RPATH No RUNPATH No Symbols No SafeStack Found No Probes Enabled No Selfrando None Unknown Unknown Yes 12 17 ./bash


    In stark contrast, here is the checksec output on my customized Gentoo
    bash:

    RELRO Stack Canary CFI NX PIE RPATH RUNPATH Symbols SafeStack Stack Clash W^X Seg Selfrando Sanitizers FORTIFY Lvl GLIBCXX Assert FORTIFY Fortified Fortifiable Name
    No RELRO No Canary Found NO SHSTK & NO IBT NX enabled PIE Disabled No RPATH No RUNPATH No Symbols No SafeStack Found No Probes Enabled No Selfrando None Unknown Unknown No 0 12 /bin/bash


    Notice the extreme difference. The "RELRO," "Stack Canary," "CFI,"
    "PIE," and "Fortify" fields are enabled in Arch but disabled in my
    custom Gentoo build. This is an extremely significant difference
    and it indicates that Arch is garbage and junk.


    Sorry, but:

    - RELRO is a relocation of critical things like GOT (Global Offset Table) to read-only memory so other processes cannot change it and inject own code into control flow.
    - Stack Canary essentially is buffer overflow protection mechanism. Attacker will be unable to write something to memory outside of designated buffer and eventually won't hack you.
    - CFI is "Control Flow Integrity", so attacker won't be able to inject bad things in it and overtake application's control flow.
    - PIE is "Position-Independed Executables". These executables on startup will be loaded in random memory location to harden defense against attackers who tries to change memory bytes. Part of ASLR mechanism.
    - Fortify is FORTIFY_SOURCES, a mechanism that tries to prevent buffer overflows and string format injections (and some other attack vectors).

    Are you REALLY sure that YOUR bash binary is more secure than in Arch? It is more likely you've tried to get most from your system's performance and deliberately disabled some protection measures that kind-of eat it.
    --
    WBR, Stanislav Nikitin a.k.a. pztrn.
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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 04:11:55 2026
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    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 08:39:57 +0500, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote:


    And how many distros you have built from scratch and how many
    of them are in use by users other than you?


    That's the whole purpose of GNU/Linux. Is is not?

    Every installation is different and unique to the individual
    that builds it. GNU/Linux allows nearly infinite configuration
    possibilities and can accommodate any need.

    I deeply pity those poor fools that can only depend on a one-size-fits-all distro.



    There is nothing to "avoid", I built my kernel from Gentoo tree and it was running fine.


    Then don't complain.



    So libc update doesn't requiring world rebuild? Whoah, how did they managed it?


    No, it does not. I just built the newly released glibc-2.44 (it only requires three minutes) and NOTHING needed to be rebuilt. NOTHING.

    You are entirely mistaken.

    The GLIBC folks do not ever break user space.



    - RELRO is a relocation of critical things like GOT (Global Offset Table) to read-only memory so other processes cannot change it and inject own code into control flow.
    - Stack Canary essentially is buffer overflow protection mechanism. Attacker will be unable to write something to memory outside of designated buffer and eventually won't hack you.
    - CFI is "Control Flow Integrity", so attacker won't be able to inject bad things in it and overtake application's control flow.
    - PIE is "Position-Independed Executables". These executables on startup will be loaded in random memory location to harden defense against attackers who tries to change memory bytes. Part of ASLR mechanism.
    - Fortify is FORTIFY_SOURCES, a mechanism that tries to prevent buffer overflows and string format injections (and some other attack vectors).

    Are you REALLY sure that YOUR bash binary is more secure than in Arch? It is more likely you've tried to get most from your system's performance and deliberately disabled some protection measures that kind-of eat it.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    I operate a standalone desktop workstation and such "security" concerns
    are totally irrelevant as well as being a serious detriment to performance.

    I understand hardware from logic gates on up (but you don't) and such "security"
    crap is ludicrous in the extreme.

    Please do not respond further. It is obvious that your technical knowledge
    is highly deficient and I surely cannot waste my time attempting to explain digital fundamentals to someone like you.

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  • From Stanislav N. aka pztrn@pztrn@oldproto.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 09:29:01 2026
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    09.08.2026 09:11, Leroy H wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 08:39:57 +0500, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote:


    And how many distros you have built from scratch and how many
    of them are in use by users other than you?


    That's the whole purpose of GNU/Linux. Is is not?

    Every installation is different and unique to the individual
    that builds it. GNU/Linux allows nearly infinite configuration
    possibilities and can accommodate any need.

    I deeply pity those poor fools that can only depend on a one-size-fits-all distro.

    It is great you have so much time for that.




    There is nothing to "avoid", I built my kernel from Gentoo tree and it was running fine.


    Then don't complain.


    I am not. It is you trying to complain.



    So libc update doesn't requiring world rebuild? Whoah, how did they managed it?


    No, it does not. I just built the newly released glibc-2.44 (it only requires
    three minutes) and NOTHING needed to be rebuilt. NOTHING.

    You are entirely mistaken.

    The GLIBC folks do not ever break user space.


    Good they finally managed to do that!

    What about gcc update? :)



    - RELRO is a relocation of critical things like GOT (Global Offset Table) to read-only memory so other processes cannot change it and inject own code into control flow.
    - Stack Canary essentially is buffer overflow protection mechanism. Attacker will be unable to write something to memory outside of designated buffer and eventually won't hack you.
    - CFI is "Control Flow Integrity", so attacker won't be able to inject bad things in it and overtake application's control flow.
    - PIE is "Position-Independed Executables". These executables on startup will be loaded in random memory location to harden defense against attackers who tries to change memory bytes. Part of ASLR mechanism.
    - Fortify is FORTIFY_SOURCES, a mechanism that tries to prevent buffer overflows and string format injections (and some other attack vectors).

    Are you REALLY sure that YOUR bash binary is more secure than in Arch? It is more likely you've tried to get most from your system's performance and deliberately disabled some protection measures that kind-of eat it.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    I operate a standalone desktop workstation and such "security" concerns
    are totally irrelevant as well as being a serious detriment to performance.


    Lets see what will you say when your data will be stolen via chained exploit when you enter your entertaining website.tld with "special" banner of javascript injection. Or when you'll became a part of botnet. AIDE is working on your side, right? Or you adopted something like ostree to make your system and important binaries/libraries immutable? You wrote BPF program that will reject suspicious packets BEFORE they processed by kernel or network card module? Are you killing unknown processes automatically?

    I understand hardware from logic gates on up (but you don't) and such "security"
    crap is ludicrous in the extreme.

    Is your path "security by obscurity"? :)

    And if you understand hardware logic - what next 5 vulnerabilities in Intel/AMD will be discovered?


    Please do not respond further. It is obvious that your technical knowledge is highly deficient and I surely cannot waste my time attempting to explain digital fundamentals to someone like you.


    Instead of being so offensive you should try to explain your POV without any offense. And maybe your words won't sound so stupid and selfish. It is unprofessional ->ro|_(paa)_ro+->.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 13:33:27 2026
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    On 09/08/2026 05:11, Leroy H wrote:
    And how many distros you have built from scratch and how many
    of them are in use by users other than you?

    That's the whole purpose of GNU/Linux. Is is not?

    No, it isn't.

    There is no 'point' to Linux. There is no DivinePlanrao.
    If you want one of those, go and talk to a born again Xtian or a radical Muslim

    Linux is a name for a collection of code that does some useful things.
    What things those are depends on what your needs are.

    If you just want something that works like you always hoped Windows
    would with good support and broad penetration, you pick a linux
    DISTRIBUTION that is well maintained and popular.

    If you want to run a public facing web server you pick a distro that is conservative and stable and well patched against exploits

    Only if you are an inadequate geek lacking in self esteem do you pick
    some obscure distro you have to build from source just so you can brag
    about it
    --
    Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
    guns, why should we let them have ideas?

    Josef Stalin

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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 16:28:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:29:01 +0500, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote:


    I deeply pity those poor fools that can only depend on a one-size-fits-all >> distro.

    It is great you have so much time for that.


    You are again totally mistaken.

    The time factor is negligible. Gentoo is fully AUTOMATED. A single short command
    is all that is required to download the sources (with all dependencies checked),
    configure, build, and install.


    Lets see what will you say when your data will be stolen via chained exploit when you enter your entertaining website.tld with "special" banner of javascript
    injection. Or when you'll became a part of botnet. AIDE is working on your side,
    right? Or you adopted something like ostree to make your system and important binaries/libraries immutable? You wrote BPF program that will reject suspicious
    packets BEFORE they processed by kernel or network card module? Are you killing
    unknown processes automatically?


    I am more concerned about the FSB agents that are hiding in my closet.
    Every time I leave the room to urinate I can hear them scurrying about
    and applying rowhammer attacks.










    I understand hardware from logic gates on up (but you don't) and such "security"
    crap is ludicrous in the extreme.

    Is your path "security by obscurity"? :)

    And if you understand hardware logic - what next 5 vulnerabilities in Intel/AMD will be discovered?


    Please do not respond further. It is obvious that your technical knowledge >> is highly deficient and I surely cannot waste my time attempting to explain >> digital fundamentals to someone like you.


    Instead of being so offensive you should try to explain your POV without any offense. And maybe your words won't sound so stupid and selfish. It is unprofessional ->ro|_(paa)_ro+->.

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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 16:52:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 13:33:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 09/08/2026 05:11, Leroy H wrote:
    And how many distros you have built from scratch and how many
    of them are in use by users other than you?

    That's the whole purpose of GNU/Linux. Is is not?

    No, it isn't.


    Yes, it is.



    There is no 'point' to Linux. There is no DivinePlanrao.
    If you want one of those, go and talk to a born again Xtian or a radical Muslim


    You have obviously been doing a lot of talking to Communists (see below).



    Linux is a name for a collection of code that does some useful things.


    Linux, i.e. the kernel, doesn't do anything. It's only function is to
    allow application programs to access the hardware and, if multi-tasking
    is involved, to manage memory and execution scheduling.



    What things those are depends on what your needs are.

    If you just want something that works like you always hoped Windows
    would with good support and broad penetration, you pick a linux
    DISTRIBUTION that is well maintained and popular.


    You are essentially describing the distro equivalent of the "Khrushchevka:"

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchevka>

    Why not? It's so much better if all of my needs are determined and
    defined by a central authority. Why be subject to the immense labor
    of making decisions?



    If you want to run a public facing web server you pick a distro that is conservative and stable and well patched against exploits


    What else is there to pick? You are describing 99% of distros.



    Only if you are an inadequate geek lacking in self esteem do you pick
    some obscure distro you have to build from source just so you can brag
    about it


    If you got it, then flaunt it.

    I just love to see the peons drool with envy.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 20:31:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 09/08/2026 17:52, Leroy H wrote:
    If you got it, then flaunt it.

    I just love to see the peons drool with envy.
    Did you know that since I was last sitting responding to your posts I haven't thought about you, or anything you say for a single microsecond.

    In MY world you might as well not exist

    It's not envy, its complete indifference
    --
    Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's
    too dark to read.

    Groucho Marx



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  • From Leroy H@lh@somewhere.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 19:51:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 20:31:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


    In MY world you might as well not exist

    It's not envy, its complete indifference


    Yet you were compelled to take the time from your otherwise
    busy life in order to tell me that.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! I understand my slaves and I will treat
    them accordingly.

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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Aug 9 17:05:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-08-08 10:43 p.m., Leroy H wrote:
    On Sat, 8 Aug 2026 21:27:23 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:


    [snip gibberish]


    If I had wanted some technical ignoramus imbecile to respond
    to my post I would have pinned it to the bulletin board of the
    nearest retard asylum.

    I'm sure you're quite acquainted with the retard asylum.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    Matthew 7:15
    John 14:6
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Mon Aug 10 06:05:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 09/08/2026 20:51, Leroy H wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 20:31:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


    In MY world you might as well not exist

    It's not envy, its complete indifference


    Yet you were compelled to take the time from your otherwise
    busy life in order to tell me that.


    Not really., I do not have a busy life. It was a moment of sheer boredom really


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! I understand my slaves and I will treat
    them accordingly.

    I feel for you.
    --
    "Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

    rCo Confucius

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Aug 15 13:04:01 2026
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    Le 08-08-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a |-crit-a:
    On 08 Aug 2026 09:45:57 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:


    When you have an issue with your
    joke of an OS, you'd rather rely on Windows than on a real distro.


    All of my former "issues" have been resolved.

    You are your most important issue. You haven't be resolved.

    I can now access any web site from my superior, hand-crafted, GNU/Linux installation.

    I know, once you removed your superior hand-crafted improvements, it
    started to work. You can't stop yourself to blame others for your
    limits, so you said that if your customization didn't work it was
    Mozilla's fault. But nevertheless, you are your own issue.

    There is only one single exception but that is somehow due to
    DNS lookup. When I have the time, and the inclination, I will
    also debug this last remaining issue.

    Yes, once the last customization of yours will be removed, it will work
    fine. And your superior, hand-crafted, Linux installation will become a
    normal working distro.

    Nothing wrong with that for anyone but you. I mean a working distro is
    better than a non-working customization.

    YOU are the one that must rely on a "real distro."

    Like you. Your non-working useless joke of a computer will need to be a
    distro to work for real.

    Sure, I encounter problems on occasion but I will eventually discover
    the cause by way of intelligent debugging.

    You are the cause of the problems. As long as you keep managing your
    computer without learning anything, you'll encounter yourself as your
    worse ennemi.

    YOU cannot do the same.

    Right. I can't afford an unusable computer. I need something that do
    what I want. I can't allow my computer to be broken each time I'm doing anything with it.

    If YOU experience problems

    I don't experience problems. You are the one with a broken unusable
    computer.

    then YOU must wait until your "real distro" provides a solution.

    You don't know anything about what I can do and what I can't do.

    YOU cannot debug because

    You don't know anything about what I can do and what I can't do.

    YOU cannot understand.

    Wrong. I can understand that you are a half-wit brainless moron
    dreaming you are the smartest guy on earth.
    --
    Si vous avez du temps |a perdre :
    https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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