• Gentoo, Gentoo, How I Do Love Thee

    From FF@fflud@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Jun 27 18:44:37 2026
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    Gentoo, one of the few distros to offer alternatives to the sick-fuck abominations known as systemd and wayland, today automagically updated
    my system by downloading, building, and installing the following
    packages:

    devdev-libs/expat
    net-misc/curl
    app-arch/libarchive
    x11-misc/xkeyboard-config
    dev-lang/deno-bin
    sys-apps/openrc
    dev-libs/pugixml
    dev-python/pypdf
    dev-python/ast-serialize
    dev-python/cython
    dev-python/vcs-versioning
    dev-python/setuptools-scm
    dev-util/desktop-file-utils
    dev-libs/libxmlb
    media-libs/mesa
    sci-libs/suitesparseconfig
    sci-libs/colamd-libs
    app-text/libexttextcat

    Also, because libexttextcat, a dependency of LibreOffice, was updated
    I was offered a rebuild of libreoffice, which I enthusiastically
    accepted.

    Thanks, Gentoo.

    Only a brain-damaged, demented idiot would use anything else.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJjaW4gSmF3b3Jza2nwn4e18J+HsQ==?=@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jun 27 21:25:23 2026
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    W dniu 27.06.2026 o-a20:44, FF pisze:
    Thanks, Gentoo.

    Only a brain-damaged, demented idiot would use anything else.

    Thanx, Canonical:
    1. I still can use Kubuntu 20.04 and Ubuntu Server 20.04 exclusively on
    my PCs (beside them I use only Android in my mobile);
    2. I don't need any update - everything just works since years - so:
    3. I do not waste time for endless recompilation;
    4. I just do my daily tasks.

    Tu sum up: I am wonder why do you still blame people like me. Linux
    allow us to work the way we like. Linux give us a choice. These approach
    are essential in freedom. It is very offensive to instruct all people
    should work like you do. Especially when Gentoo binary packages do not
    cover most popular 80% USE flag configs/cases.

    But to be honest: If some day they put themself together and compile
    Gentoo packages with 80% USE flag configs/cases, then Gentoo can be one
    of the best Linux distro. To day it is not. This is reality, not
    wish-thinking like yours.
    --
    Z totaliztycznym salutem!
    Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska Efc|Efc#, UE Efc-Efc|;
    tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA;
    Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>;
    Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>;
    Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>.
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@gnulinux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jun 27 19:55:44 2026
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    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 21:25:23 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:


    Tu sum up: I am wonder why do you still blame people like me. Linux
    allow us to work the way we like. Linux give us a choice. These approach
    are essential in freedom. It is very offensive to instruct all people
    should work like you do. Especially when Gentoo binary packages do not
    cover most popular 80% USE flag configs/cases.


    I only do so in retaliation for all those who condemn me for using
    Gentoo/LFS.

    They will blame me. I will blame them.



    But to be honest: If some day they put themself together and compile
    Gentoo packages with 80% USE flag configs/cases, then Gentoo can be one
    of the best Linux distro. To day it is not. This is reality, not wish-thinking like yours.


    GNU/Linux began as an OS for the technical elite.

    Later, some distros began to make GNU/Linux easy to install and easy
    to use. Some will argue that this is good.

    But we should remember that GNU/Linux was never intended for the "masses,"
    and judging by its acceptance on the desktop it seems to remain that way.

    GNU/Linux should always be directed toward a technically competent
    audience.

    Micro$lop Winblows has lots and lots of free software available to serve
    every need. Let the non-technical people stay with Micro$lop and stay
    away from GNU/Linux.
    --
    Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJjaW4gSmF3b3Jza2nwn4e18J+HsQ==?=@jmj@energokod.gda.pl to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jun 27 23:10:07 2026
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    W dniu 27.06.2026 o-a21:55, Farley Flud pisze:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 21:25:23 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    Tu sum up: I am wonder why do you still blame people like me. Linux
    allow us to work the way we like. Linux give us a choice. These approach
    are essential in freedom. It is very offensive to instruct all people
    should work like you do. Especially when Gentoo binary packages do not
    cover most popular 80% USE flag configs/cases.

    I only do so in retaliation for all those who condemn me for using Gentoo/LFS.

    They will blame me. I will blame them.

    I have other thumb rules:
    1. "It's nice to be important But it's more important to be nice" [1];
    2. Always must be the first wise man which "offer to shake hands and
    make peace" [2]. I live in that way on enemy, polish territory.

    [1]: Move Your Ass! - Scooter:

    <https://genius.com/Scooter-move-your-ass-lyrics>

    [2]: ChatGPT (OpenAI, model GPT-5.5), answer to my question "Jak b-Odzie
    po angielsku "poda-c r-Ok-O na zgod-O"?" (fragment):

    "to shake hands and make peace"
    --
    Z totaliztycznym salutem!
    Jacek Marcin Jaworski, Pruszcz Gd., woj. Pomorskie, Polska Efc|Efc#, UE Efc-Efc|;
    tel.: +48-609-170-742, najlepiej w godz.: 5:00-5:55 lub 16:00-17:25; <jmj@energokod.gda.pl>, gpg: 4A541AA7A6E872318B85D7F6A651CC39244B0BFA;
    Domowa s. WWW: <https://energokod.gda.pl>;
    Mini Netykieta: <https://energokod.gda.pl/MiniNetykieta.html>;
    Mailowa Samoobrona: <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/pl>.
    UWAGA:
    NIE ZACI-aGAJ "UKRYTEGO D+UUGU"! P+UA-a ZA PROG. FOSS I INFO. INTERNETOWE! CZYTAJ DARMOWY: "17. Raport Totaliztyczny - Patroni Kontra Bankierzy": <https://energokod.gda.pl/raporty-totaliztyczne/17.%20Patroni%20Kontra%20Bankierzy.pdf>

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  • From Farley Flud@ff@gnulinux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jun 27 21:45:58 2026
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    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:10:07 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:


    I have other thumb rules:
    1. "It's nice to be important But it's more important to be nice" [1];
    2. Always must be the first wise man which "offer to shake hands and
    make peace" [2]. I live in that way on enemy, polish territory.


    Nope.

    Gentoo, and LFS, are representative of the true GNU/Linux, that is,
    they are the distros that offer total freedom of choice.

    These others refuse to believe in choice. They accept only what
    the mainstream distros provide. Therefore, they are not to be
    treated in a "nice" fashion. I will never "shake" their filthy
    and corrupt hands.

    These distro "lackeys" only want a free and easy ride. They are
    not interested in freedom and choice and therefore they are to be
    castigated, condemned, and insulted.

    These distro "lackeys" are causing more damage to GNU/Linux than
    Micro$lop could ever hope to cause
    --
    Gentoo/LFS: Is there any-fucking-thing else?
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jun 27 19:00:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 6/27/2026 5:45 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:10:07 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:

    I have other thumb rules:
    1. "It's nice to be important But it's more important to be nice" [1];
    2. Always must be the first wise man which "offer to shake hands and
    make peace" [2]. I live in that way on enemy, polish territory.

    Nope.

    Gentoo, and LFS, are representative of the true GNU/Linux, that is,
    they are the distros that offer total freedom of choice.

    These others refuse to believe in choice. They accept only what
    the mainstream distros provide. Therefore, they are not to be
    treated in a "nice" fashion. I will never "shake" their filthy
    and corrupt hands.

    These distro "lackeys" only want a free and easy ride. They are
    not interested in freedom and choice and therefore they are to be
    castigated, condemned, and insulted.

    These distro "lackeys" are causing more damage to GNU/Linux than
    Micro$lop could ever hope to cause


    Why does it matter, though? I'm not even running Linux, now. It's fun
    but not as good as Winblows on some things.
    --
    Joel W. Crump

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Jun 28 00:51:27 2026
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    On 6/27/26 14:44, FF wrote:
    Gentoo, one of the few distros to offer alternatives to the sick-fuck abominations known as systemd and wayland, today automagically updated
    my system by downloading, building, and installing the following
    packages:

    devdev-libs/expat
    net-misc/curl
    app-arch/libarchive
    x11-misc/xkeyboard-config
    dev-lang/deno-bin
    sys-apps/openrc
    dev-libs/pugixml
    dev-python/pypdf
    dev-python/ast-serialize
    dev-python/cython
    dev-python/vcs-versioning
    dev-python/setuptools-scm
    dev-util/desktop-file-utils
    dev-libs/libxmlb
    media-libs/mesa
    sci-libs/suitesparseconfig
    sci-libs/colamd-libs
    app-text/libexttextcat

    Also, because libexttextcat, a dependency of LibreOffice, was updated
    I was offered a rebuild of libreoffice, which I enthusiastically
    accepted.

    Thanks, Gentoo.

    Only a brain-damaged, demented idiot would use anything else.


    And you expect lots of friends here ? :-)

    DID look at GenToo again recently. Sorry, not to MY
    tastes. Happy it exists, but I'm not gonna put in
    the effort. Gimmie Deb-based. Work, and practical.

    For young newbies with lots of energy though ... they
    can learn a lot from GenToo.

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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Jun 28 08:20:30 2026
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    At Sat, 27 Jun 2026 18:44:37 +0000, FF <fflud@linux.rocks> wrote:

    Gentoo, one of the few distros

    So you admit you use a "distro".

    You couldn't build a Linux kernel on your own if you're life
    depended it on -- you let your _distro_ do it for you.

    QED.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER@sc@fiat-linux.fr to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Jun 28 09:31:36 2026
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    Le 27-06-2026, Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> a |-crit-a:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 21:25:23 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:


    Tu sum up: I am wonder why do you still blame people like me. Linux
    allow us to work the way we like. Linux give us a choice. These approach
    are essential in freedom. It is very offensive to instruct all people
    should work like you do. Especially when Gentoo binary packages do not
    cover most popular 80% USE flag configs/cases.


    I only do so in retaliation for all those who condemn me for using Gentoo/LFS.

    People don't blame you for using Gentoo. People blame you for refusing
    them the right to use something else. People blame you for being an
    asshole. And I blame you for being unable to use correctly Linux and
    telling other to use it in your cumbersome way.

    They will blame me. I will blame them.

    Nope. You blame people, they answer and you pretend you need to defend yourself.

    But to be honest: If some day they put themself together and compile
    Gentoo packages with 80% USE flag configs/cases, then Gentoo can be one
    of the best Linux distro. To day it is not. This is reality, not
    wish-thinking like yours.


    GNU/Linux began as an OS for the technical elite.

    No.

    Later, some distros began to make GNU/Linux easy to install and easy
    to use. Some will argue that this is good.

    Like Linus, which created Linux and knows more about his reasons than
    you. And he's using a distro simple to install and which is simple to
    switch the kernel. So you are contradicting Linus believing you are
    right.

    I mean, anyone can contradict Linus, but not about his reasons without
    solid arguments. And you have no argument. You have only unsupported
    false claims about what you believe.

    But we should remember that GNU/Linux was never intended for the "masses,"

    Why? At that time, the masses didn't had computers, so of course it was
    not intended for them. But why do you need to remain in the past?

    and judging by its acceptance on the desktop it seems to remain that way.

    Nonsense.

    GNU/Linux should always be directed toward a technically competent
    audience.

    Why? Because it's your choice and you are the only one who should be
    heard? You can't fight freedom like you do and pretend you are fighting
    for freedom at the same time.
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Jun 28 18:28:51 2026
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    On 2026-06-28, St|-phane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
    Le 27-06-2026, Farley Flud <ff@gnulinux.rocks> a |-crit-a:
    On Sat, 27 Jun 2026 21:25:23 +0200, Efc|Efc#Jacek Marcin JaworskiEfc|Efc# wrote:


    Tu sum up: I am wonder why do you still blame people like me. Linux
    allow us to work the way we like. Linux give us a choice. These approach >>> are essential in freedom. It is very offensive to instruct all people
    should work like you do. Especially when Gentoo binary packages do not
    cover most popular 80% USE flag configs/cases.


    I only do so in retaliation for all those who condemn me for using
    Gentoo/LFS.

    People don't blame you for using Gentoo. People blame you for refusing
    them the right to use something else. People blame you for being an
    asshole. And I blame you for being unable to use correctly Linux and
    telling other to use it in your cumbersome way.

    They will blame me. I will blame them.

    Nope. You blame people, they answer and you pretend you need to defend yourself.

    But to be honest: If some day they put themself together and compile
    Gentoo packages with 80% USE flag configs/cases, then Gentoo can be one >>> of the best Linux distro. To day it is not. This is reality, not
    wish-thinking like yours.


    GNU/Linux began as an OS for the technical elite.

    No.

    Later, some distros began to make GNU/Linux easy to install and easy
    to use. Some will argue that this is good.

    Like Linus, which created Linux and knows more about his reasons than
    you. And he's using a distro simple to install and which is simple to
    switch the kernel. So you are contradicting Linus believing you are
    right.

    I mean, anyone can contradict Linus, but not about his reasons without
    solid arguments. And you have no argument. You have only unsupported
    false claims about what you believe.

    But we should remember that GNU/Linux was never intended for the "masses,"

    Why? At that time, the masses didn't had computers, so of course it was
    not intended for them. But why do you need to remain in the past?

    and judging by its acceptance on the desktop it seems to remain that way.

    Nonsense.

    GNU/Linux should always be directed toward a technically competent
    audience.

    Why? Because it's your choice and you are the only one who should be
    heard? You can't fight freedom like you do and pretend you are fighting
    for freedom at the same time.

    He's just a troll. I would just use the killfile so we don't have to see his trolling.
    --
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