Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems <https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat
any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep
underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt
look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea,
they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to
persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some
sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat
any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep
underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt
look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea,
they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then
there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe >that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little
more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ ...
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid>wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2026 06:53:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ ...
How is IQ calculated? ItrCOs a rCLquotientrCY, which means itrCOs the ratio of >two numbers (multiplied by 100). What are those two numbers? They are
your rCLphysical agerCY and your rCLmental agerCY.
rCLGeniusrCY level is supposed to be 150 and above. So a 30-year-old
genius is supposed to have a mental age of 45 or more. If their IQ is
200, then their mental age must already be approaching retirement. How
does that work?
Lawrence DAOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to
persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some
sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of oAgeless Linuxo have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat
any APIs for returning usersA dates of birth. Requires systemd.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then
there is hope.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to
persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some
sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat
any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep
underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt
look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea,
they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then
there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe
that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little
more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ
and that would exclude many 'political decision makers (trump too).
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid>wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2026 06:53:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ ...
How is IQ calculated? ItrCOs a rCLquotientrCY, which means itrCOs the ratio of
two numbers (multiplied by 100). What are those two numbers? They are
your rCLphysical agerCY and your rCLmental agerCY.
rCLGeniusrCY level is supposed to be 150 and above. So a 30-year-old
genius is supposed to have a mental age of 45 or more. If their IQ is
200, then their mental age must already be approaching retirement. How
does that work?
There seem to be 2 methods now to determine the IQ of a person:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient
Anyways, what I was trying to suggest is to prevent complete idiots (low IQ), like for example that US trump one,
from going online or using computers, that would just be a waste of electricity and cause many problems,
like trump keeps demonstrating.
Smart kids less than 10 years should have access to computers.
Same with the media.
I designed and build my own radios at age 10 in the fifties of last century (am almost 80 years old now).
Still active in electronics and programming.
Been running Linux since 1992 with Softlanding Linux System (SLS Linux) that included the X Window System,
Already had a book on Linux back then, Kernighan and Ritchy too, worked at a large accelerator where they used Unix.
It only took an afternoon and some notes I made to get going and write my first Linux code.
Not everybody can code
Before that I worked in broadcasting as engineer, designed related hardware and after that had my own TV repair shop.
Started programming in BASIC and ASM in the eighties when I got a Sinclair Z80 computer..
then wrote my own CP/M clone and expanded the Z80 hardware
So limits on access to computers that are age based are a big mistake, prevents kids with talent to contribute.
But keeping any age complete idiots (low IQ) out, may help or would perhaps have helped (dbus) those clueless to screw up things
My website:
https://panteltje.nl/index1.html
But then even people change over time...
So, leave Linux open to all!
Oh man, next they will let AI rewrite the kernel, if they did not already do that.
I keep an old floppy with SLS Linux somewhere ;-)
And an old USB floppy drive...
CrudeSausage wrote:
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to
persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some
sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat
any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Thank God for FOSS.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then
there is hope.
I don't see how it's possible to stop Linux users from getting around
it. Even if (for example) Ubuntu delivers the spyware, there's no way
to stop anyone from removing it and offering that upgraded version to
others.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 2:53 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to
persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some >>>> sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat >>>> any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep
underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt >>>> look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea,
they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then
there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe >>> that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little
more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ
and that would exclude many 'political decision makers (trump too).
If mental health age were applied, most niggers wouldn't be allowed out
of a cage.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 2:53 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to >>>>> persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some >>>>> sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience >>>>> campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat >>>>> any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep
underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt >>>>> look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea, >>>>> they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then >>>> there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe >>>> that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little
more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ
and that would exclude many 'political decision makers (trump too).
If mental health age were applied, most niggers wouldn't be allowed out
of a cage.
That sounds a bit racist.
It is an individual thing and there are extreme low IQ white cases, see the current white house and their YouWish slaves,
some mostly white religious groups who believe in Adam and Eve while life signs like DNA related substances are being detected on Mars..
and follow that US King Kong leader.
I liked Obama as president, he was / is a community person and did good work.
The current white monkey just kills, first with COVID,
then in Venezuela,
then in Iran,
now trying Cuba,
all done so big money supports him (like Musk who now even sues Open AI and who does not even know
the difference between South Africa and other African states), the US military industrial complex,
and AI companies.
Capitalism gone bad, same thing repeating over and over again, Bush 'weapons of mass destruction'.
so many wars by that YouAsh, such a small place on my globe compared to the rest of the world
so much noise from that WHITE house ape
The average YouAsh IQ has dropped over the years, YouAsh's solution?
Fire the professor that did the test.
LOL
If things continue this way it will be nuked into oblivion really soon. and that includes land stealing and genocide committing is-a-hell.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 11:07 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 2:53 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to >>>>>> persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some >>>>>> sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience >>>>>> campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat >>>>>> any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep >>>>>> underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt >>>>>> look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea, >>>>>> they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then >>>>> there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe >>>>> that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little >>>>> more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ
and that would exclude many 'political decision makers (trump too).
If mental health age were applied, most niggers wouldn't be allowed out
of a cage.
That sounds a bit racist.
Only a bit? I've failed.
It is an individual thing and there are extreme low IQ white cases, see the current white house and their YouWish slaves,
Trump is brighter than most of the presidents the Americans have had in
the past half-century.
some mostly white religious groups who believe in Adam and Eve while life signs like DNA related substances are being detected
on Mars..
and follow that US King Kong leader.
Does belief in God require that you believe that the creator of the >_everything_ was somehow limited to Earth? Your complete lack of logic >escapes me.
I liked Obama as president, he was / is a community person and did good work.
He was wonderful. Races and religions mostly got along until his
presidency made sure that they didn't.
The current white monkey just kills, first with COVID,
Are you suggesting that Trump was responsible for the worldwide campaign >known as the COVID lockdown?
then in Venezuela,
Warranted, considering what they were sneaking into the United Staets.
then in Iran,
Warranted, considering how Iran is looking to create nuclear weaponry
which would allow them to hold the world hostage.
now trying Cuba,
Warranted, considering even the Cubans themselves don't want a Communist >government anymore and know that it is responsible for starving them and >turning them into literal slaves who can't speak out about their
terrible conditions.
all done so big money supports him (like Musk who now even sues Open AI and who does not even know
the difference between South Africa and other African states), the US military industrial complex,
and AI companies.
Provide evidence that Elon Musk is as retarded as the typical leftist.
Capitalism gone bad, same thing repeating over and over again, Bush 'weapons of mass destruction'.
so many wars by that YouAsh, such a small place on my globe compared to the rest of the world
so much noise from that WHITE house ape
The average YouAsh IQ has dropped over the years, YouAsh's solution?
Fire the professor that did the test.
LOL
If things continue this way it will be nuked into oblivion really soon. and that includes land stealing and genocide
committing is-a-hell.
Spoken like the same kind of imbecile who thought that involvement in
Gaza, Venezuela, Cuba and now Iran would lead to World War 3. How's that >going, by the way? Are we living in a real version of Fallout 76 yet?
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 11:07 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 2:53 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to >>>>>>> persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some >>>>>>> sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience >>>>>>> campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat >>>>>>> any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd. >>>>>>>
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep >>>>>>> underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt >>>>>>> look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea, >>>>>>> they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then >>>>>> there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe >>>>>> that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little >>>>>> more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ
and that would exclude many 'political decision makers (trump too).
If mental health age were applied, most niggers wouldn't be allowed out >>>> of a cage.
That sounds a bit racist.
Only a bit? I've failed.
Get used to it!
It is an individual thing and there are extreme low IQ white cases, see the current white house and their YouWish slaves,
Trump is brighter than most of the presidents the Americans have had in
the past half-century.
Trump is the darkness manifest, anti-Christ.
some mostly white religious groups who believe in Adam and Eve while life signs like DNA related substances are being detected
on Mars..
and follow that US King Kong leader.
Does belief in God require that you believe that the creator of the
_everything_ was somehow limited to Earth? Your complete lack of logic
escapes me.
We are stardust
And stardust is everywhere in that what we call 'universe', as is 'life' or forms of that.
I liked Obama as president, he was / is a community person and did good work.
He was wonderful. Races and religions mostly got along until his
presidency made sure that they didn't.
The current white monkey just kills, first with COVID,
Are you suggesting that Trump was responsible for the worldwide campaign
known as the COVID lockdown?
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a Chinese market to hurt China.
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
then in Venezuela,
Warranted, considering what they were sneaking into the United Staets.
They were not, they just stopped US stealing their oil resources.
then in Iran,
Warranted, considering how Iran is looking to create nuclear weaponry
which would allow them to hold the world hostage.
Bull, you cannot hold the world hostage if they also have nukes.
Iran has every right to develop and build nukes, US just wants its oil and resources.
now trying Cuba,
Warranted, considering even the Cubans themselves don't want a Communist
government anymore and know that it is responsible for starving them and
turning them into literal slaves who can't speak out about their
terrible conditions.
It is US sanctions that hit Cuba, they mostly live from tourism these days, plus some exports.
I was hoping that Russian oil tanker that brought them some oil a while back would have given them some nukes too
Remember that standoff?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
Was REALLY close to WW3
all done so big money supports him (like Musk who now even sues Open AI and who does not even know
the difference between South Africa and other African states), the US military industrial complex,
and AI companies.
Provide evidence that Elon Musk is as retarded as the typical leftist.
Well, 'leftists' are quite clever, Russia was first in space with Sputnik for example.
In Russia people do not sleep in the streets and die from drug overdoses like in the US.
And in China industry booms! making nice electric cars and other stuff,
I have a lot of Chinese electronic stuff and parts here.
Have you always been retarded or is it the result of old age?Capitalism gone bad, same thing repeating over and over again, Bush 'weapons of mass destruction'.
so many wars by that YouAsh, such a small place on my globe compared to the rest of the world
so much noise from that WHITE house ape
The average YouAsh IQ has dropped over the years, YouAsh's solution?
Fire the professor that did the test.
LOL
If things continue this way it will be nuked into oblivion really soon. and that includes land stealing and genocide
committing is-a-hell.
Spoken like the same kind of imbecile who thought that involvement in
Gaza, Venezuela, Cuba and now Iran would lead to World War 3. How's that
going, by the way? Are we living in a real version of Fallout 76 yet?
US will keep pushing until it self-destructs by breaking some fine line
It will likely fall apart, maybe the south will go back to Mexico and the north maybe to Canada..
The west will become part of China and the east part of Russia,
US citizens will have to learn several languages in their schools ...
Get ready! :-)
I liked Obama as president, he was / is a community person and did good
work
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a Chinese
market to hurt China.
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:07:22 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I liked Obama as president, he was / is a community person and did good
work
Good work? Like destabilizing Libya? Qadaffi was no prince but he did prevent Libya from becoming the launching point for the invasion of Europe
by sub-Saharan Africans,
Then there were the multiple 'red lines' that were overstepped in Syria as the US trained ISIS.
Let's not forget Ukraine. Yanukovych also was not a nice guy but that pig Nuland and her CIA buddies spurred on the Euromaidan idiots. How has that turned out?
Obama was given a Peace Prize for Being Elected While Black. He did not
bring peace, but rather war and chaos. His racist remarks did nothing to improve relations in the US either.
He should have remained a community organizer.
Jan Panteltje wrote:
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a Chinese
market to hurt China.
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
Your dementia is showing. Trump has been a disappointment but the >alternative was much worse.
On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:55:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a Chinese
market to hurt China.
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
Your dementia is showing. Trump has been a disappointment but the alternative was much worse.
The fact that Nobel thought Obama deserved a peace prize for doing >absolutely _nothing_ shows you how credible that organization is.
CrudeSausage wrote:
The fact that Nobel thought Obama deserved a peace prize for doing
absolutely _nothing_ shows you how credible that organization is.
Well, at least all those social justice warriors got to slap each
other on the back and congratulate each other for how "enlightened"
they are.
Then they got busy opening their borders to allow dark-skinned Muslims
to flood into their mostly-white countries. For "diversity's" sake,
you know.
CrudeSausage wrote:
The fact that Nobel thought Obama deserved a peace prize for doing
absolutely _nothing_ shows you how credible that organization is.
Well, at least all those social justice warriors got to slap each
other on the back and congratulate each other for how "enlightened"
they are.
Then they got busy opening their borders to allow dark-skinned Muslims
to flood into their mostly-white countries. For "diversity's" sake,
you know.
On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:55:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a Chinese
market to hurt China.
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
Your dementia is showing. Trump has been a disappointment but the
alternative was much worse.
On May 15, 2026 at 11:02:41rC>AM MST, "rbowman" wrote <n6p5e1Fr8mhU6@mid.individual.net>:
On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:55:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a Chinese
market to hurt China.
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
Your dementia is showing. Trump has been a disappointment but the
alternative was much worse.
What can you show as being worse than a fascist oligarch pushing echoes of Nazi Germany?
On 15 May 2026 20:05:39 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On May 15, 2026 at 11:02:41rC>AM MST, "rbowman" wrote <n6p5e1Fr8mhU6@mid.individual.net>:
Chinese >>> market to hurt China.On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:55:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
Your dementia is showing. Trump has been a disappointment but the
alternative was much worse.
What can you show as being worse than a fascist oligarch pushing
echoes of Nazi Germany?
How about a President who molested his teen daughter?
Or, wandered all over the place not having a clue where he was?
Or weaponizing the CIA, DOJ, FBI against a President/Presidential
candidate?
Or a President who weaponized the 3 letter agencies, including the IRS against religious conservatives?
Or a President who tried to form a Ministry Of Truth?
Or a President who was sniffing young kids hair and fondling young and
older girls?
Or a President who couldn't find his way off a small stage?
Or a President who made an ass of himself debating Trump?
Or a President who chose a box of rocks like Kamala as his VP?
Would you like me to go on?
CrudeSausage wrote:
The fact that Nobel thought Obama deserved a peace prize for doing >>absolutely _nothing_ shows you how credible that organization is.
Well, at least all those social justice warriors got to slap each other
on the back and congratulate each other for how "enlightened" they are.
Obama winning the presidency did do something to foment a conclusion to
the Iraq war - that was what the Peace Prize was for. It wasn't
something he personally achieved, other than being the Democratic
nominee and not having a hawk agenda.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:07:22 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I liked Obama as president, he was / is a community person and did good
work
Good work? Like destabilizing Libya? Qadaffi was no prince but he did >prevent Libya from becoming the launching point for the invasion of Europe >by sub-Saharan Africans,
Then there were the multiple 'red lines' that were overstepped in Syria as >the US trained ISIS.
Let's not forget Ukraine. Yanukovych also was not a nice guy but that pig >Nuland and her CIA buddies spurred on the Euromaidan idiots. How has that >turned out?
Obama was given a Peace Prize for Being Elected While Black. He did not >bring peace, but rather war and chaos. His racist remarks did nothing to >improve relations in the US either.
He should have remained a community organizer.
CrudeSausage wrote:
Lawrence D-AOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to
persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some
sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of -oAgeless Linux-o have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat
any APIs for returning users-A dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Thank God for FOSS.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then >>there is hope.
I don't see how it's possible to stop Linux users from getting around
it. Even if (for example) Ubuntu delivers the spyware, there's no way
to stop anyone from removing it and offering that upgraded version to
others.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to
persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some
sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience
campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat
any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd.
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep
underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt
look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea,
they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then >>there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe >>that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little
more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ
and that would exclude many 'political decision makers (trump too).
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 11:07 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-15 2:53 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-05-14 7:21 p.m., Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
Seems it is possible to get politicians to see sense over age
requirements in operating systems
<https://www.theverge.com/tech/930573/age-verification-bills-linux-open-source>:
the boss of System76 (of which I have been a customer) has managed to >>>>>>> persuade the lawmakers in his home state of Colorado to carve out some >>>>>>> sensible exemptions for open-source OSes.
Meanwhile, for those stuck under less enlightened regimes, the
creators of rCLAgeless LinuxrCY have an answer: a civil-disobedience >>>>>>> campaign kit that you can install on your own Debian system, to defeat >>>>>>> any APIs for returning usersrCO dates of birth. Requires systemd. >>>>>>>
Are any other countries likely to go to this extreme to try to keep >>>>>>> underage users out of online social media? At this stage, it doesnrCOt >>>>>>> look like it. Hopefully by the time anybody else gets the same idea, >>>>>>> they will have the example of the USA to learn from.
If Linux distributions successfully manage their way around this, then >>>>>> there is hope. A lot of us will more happily swallow the many
compromises necessary to use Linux if there were truly reason to believe >>>>>> that our security and privacy were protected. Right now, it"s little >>>>>> more than a false sense of security.
They should use 'mental health age' that can be derived from the IQ
and that would exclude many 'political decision makers (trump too).
If mental health age were applied, most niggers wouldn't be allowed out >>>> of a cage.
That sounds a bit racist.
Only a bit? I've failed.
Get used to it!
It is an individual thing and there are extreme low IQ white cases, see the current white house and their YouWish slaves,
Trump is brighter than most of the presidents the Americans have had in >>the past half-century.
Trump is the darkness manifest, anti-Christ.
some mostly white religious groups who believe in Adam and Eve while life signs like DNA related substances are being detected
on Mars..
and follow that US King Kong leader.
Does belief in God require that you believe that the creator of the >>_everything_ was somehow limited to Earth? Your complete lack of logic >>escapes me.
We are stardust
And stardust is everywhere in that what we call 'universe', as is 'life' or forms of that.
I liked Obama as president, he was / is a community person and did good work.
He was wonderful. Races and religions mostly got along until his >>presidency made sure that they didn't.
The current white monkey just kills, first with COVID,
Are you suggesting that Trump was responsible for the worldwide campaign >>known as the COVID lockdown?
He had Faulty design COVID and than put an infected bat in a Chinese market to hurt China.
Seems he had the previous pope killed too,
then in Venezuela,
Warranted, considering what they were sneaking into the United Staets.
They were not, they just stopped US stealing their oil resources.
then in Iran,
Warranted, considering how Iran is looking to create nuclear weaponry >>which would allow them to hold the world hostage.
Bull, you cannot hold the world hostage if they also have nukes.
Iran has every right to develop and build nukes, US just wants its oil and resources.
now trying Cuba,
Warranted, considering even the Cubans themselves don't want a Communist >>government anymore and know that it is responsible for starving them and >>turning them into literal slaves who can't speak out about their
terrible conditions.
It is US sanctions that hit Cuba, they mostly live from tourism these days, plus some exports.
I was hoping that Russian oil tanker that brought them some oil a while back would have given them some nukes too
Remember that standoff?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
Was REALLY close to WW3
all done so big money supports him (like Musk who now even sues Open AI and who does not even know
the difference between South Africa and other African states), the US military industrial complex,
and AI companies.
Provide evidence that Elon Musk is as retarded as the typical leftist.
Well, 'leftists' are quite clever, Russia was first in space with Sputnik for example.
In Russia people do not sleep in the streets and die from drug overdoses like in the US.
And in China industry booms! making nice electric cars and other stuff,
I have a lot of Chinese electronic stuff and parts here.
Capitalism gone bad, same thing repeating over and over again, Bush 'weapons of mass destruction'.
so many wars by that YouAsh, such a small place on my globe compared to the rest of the world
so much noise from that WHITE house ape
The average YouAsh IQ has dropped over the years, YouAsh's solution?
Fire the professor that did the test.
LOL
If things continue this way it will be nuked into oblivion really soon. and that includes land stealing and genocide
committing is-a-hell.
Spoken like the same kind of imbecile who thought that involvement in >>Gaza, Venezuela, Cuba and now Iran would lead to World War 3. How's that >>going, by the way? Are we living in a real version of Fallout 76 yet?
US will keep pushing until it self-destructs by breaking some fine line
It will likely fall apart, maybe the south will go back to Mexico and the north maybe to Canada..
The west will become part of China and the east part of Russia,
US citizens will have to learn several languages in their schools ...
Get ready! :-)
On Fri, 15 May 2026 14:06:05 -0500, chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
The fact that Nobel thought Obama deserved a peace prize for doing >>>absolutely _nothing_ shows you how credible that organization is.
Well, at least all those social justice warriors got to slap each other
on the back and congratulate each other for how "enlightened" they are.
Obama hardly measured up to the high standards set by war criminals like Kissinger, Begin, or Rabin.
On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:22:48 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
Obama winning the presidency did do something to foment a conclusion to
the Iraq war - that was what the Peace Prize was for. It wasn't
something he personally achieved, other than being the Democratic
nominee and not having a hawk agenda.
I don't think I bothered to vote that year. I saw Obama was surrounding himself with the same old Clinton hacks and no way would I vote for Bomb, bomb, Iran.
Unfortunately there is a lot of truth is 'no matter who you vote for you
get John McCain.' Yeah, I know he's dead. I was hoping Graham would have thrown himself on the pyre but no such luck.
On 2026-05-16, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2026 15:22:48 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
Obama winning the presidency did do something to foment a conclusion
to the Iraq war - that was what the Peace Prize was for. It wasn't
something he personally achieved, other than being the Democratic
nominee and not having a hawk agenda.
I don't think I bothered to vote that year. I saw Obama was surrounding
himself with the same old Clinton hacks and no way would I vote for
Bomb,
bomb, Iran.
Unfortunately there is a lot of truth is 'no matter who you vote for
you get John McCain.' Yeah, I know he's dead. I was hoping Graham
would have thrown himself on the pyre but no such luck.
Whoever you vote for you end up with Bibi Netanyahu.
RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>wrote:
On 2026-05-15, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
We are stardust
And stardust is everywhere in that what we call 'universe', as is 'life' or forms of that.
And that happens... how?
Learning German is a good move,
likely after WW3 it will replace US English in 'merryca'
Obama winning the presidency did do something to foment a conclusion to
the Iraq war - that was what the Peace Prize was for. It wasn't
something he personally achieved, other than being the Democratic
nominee and not having a hawk agenda.
I don't think I bothered to vote that year. I saw Obama was surrounding himself with the same old Clinton hacks and no way would I vote for Bomb, bomb, Iran.
Unfortunately there is a lot of truth is 'no matter who you vote for you
get John McCain.' Yeah, I know he's dead. I was hoping Graham would have thrown himself on the pyre but no such luck.
Obama definitely governed from the center more than some might've
expected from his record, I wasn't surprised though. Whether McCain
really would've attacked Iran we'll never know, I don't think his joke singing the Beach Boys song was a promise to do it exactly, though it
was disturbing.
Obama definitely governed from the center more than some might've
expected from his record, I wasn't surprised though. Whether McCain
really would've attacked Iran we'll never know, I don't think his joke
singing the Beach Boys song was a promise to do it exactly, though it
was disturbing.
McCain flip-flopped on most issues but he definitely was riding the
Zionist train. He also hated Putin so would have been a Zelensky
cheerleader.
I think people around here who voted for him were hoping he got lost on
the way to the inauguration and was replaced by Palin. He was one of the largest rhinos in Congress.
Well, call him RINO if you must, but his famous vote with the Democrats
to preserve the ACA wasn't really a "RINO" move, it was a pragmatic one.
People were using the ACA, and would've lost vital coverage with what
the Republicans were proposing. This is why I lambaste their so-called
party on the issue, they are now saying "we told you so" about it
getting out of control on cost, but it's *their* fault, because *they* wouldn't work together on a bipartisan solution to create universal
coverage. They want the Dark Ages back. Fuck the Republicans, they're worthless in our diverse society, they've gone more and more toward reinstituting white supremacy, if we can't acknowledge that at this
point, we're literally blind and deaf.
Well, call him [the late Sen. McCain] RINO if you must, but his famous vote with the Democrats
to preserve the ACA wasn't really a "RINO" move, it was a pragmatic one.
People were using the ACA, and would've lost vital coverage with what
the Republicans were proposing. This is why I lambaste their so-called
party on the issue, they are now saying "we told you so" about it
getting out of control on cost, but it's *their* fault, because *they*
wouldn't work together on a bipartisan solution to create universal
coverage. They want the Dark Ages back. Fuck the Republicans, they're
worthless in our diverse society, they've gone more and more toward
reinstituting white supremacy, if we can't acknowledge that at this
point, we're literally blind and deaf.
Hold your horses, Sport. Most of the legislation was drafted by Max Baucus and his aide consulting with the healthcare industry. Single payer never
even made it to the table. The aide got a plum job in the health care industry for her faithful service and Baucus got an ambassadorship to
China. At least we got the low life son of a bitch out of this state.
The Democrats fucked that dog all by themselves. They couldn't even get a working website.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 07:40:36 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Learning German is a good move,
likely after WW3 it will replace US English in 'merryca'
I took German classes in both high school and college in the '60s. The >theory was engineers needed German to read technical literature. The
Germans learned English instead.
I never had to use the language professionally. It has come in handy
though. Germans love Schwedenkrimi and the books often get translated to >German well before English and I can get them on the Kindle.
https://www.lovelybooks.de/stoebern/empfehlung/schwedenkrimi/
I started on Chinese years ago but it became clear to me to really
learn it I would need lo live there a while.
I'm not praising the ACA - I'm saying it was the result of leaving
creating it up to one party while they briefly had full control, because
of the deliberate obstinateness of the other party in doing *anything at all*.
On Mon, 18 May 2026 06:00:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I started on Chinese years ago but it became clear to me to really
learn it I would need lo live there a while.
There are multiple Chinese languages. Presumably you mean Mandarin.
A cousin of mine once learned Mandarin. She had a boyfriend of Chinese ancestry, who couldnrCOt understand a word of it -- his mother tongue was Cantonese.
On Mon, 18 May 2026 01:31:08 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
I'm not praising the ACA - I'm saying it was the result of leaving
creating it up to one party while they briefly had full control, because
of the deliberate obstinateness of the other party in doing *anything at
all*.
"Full control" Both parties assure us if they had both houses and the presidency they could accomplish their agenda. They never do. As long as
the health care industries and other lobbyists like AIPAC are lining politicians' pockets you'll get what THEY want and suck it up.
I'm not praising the ACA - I'm saying it was the result of leaving
creating it up to one party while they briefly had full control, because
of the deliberate obstinateness of the other party in doing *anything at
all*.
"Full control" Both parties assure us if they had both houses and the presidency they could accomplish their agenda. They never do. As long as
the health care industries and other lobbyists like AIPAC are lining politicians' pockets you'll get what THEY want and suck it up.
On 2026-05-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2026 01:31:08 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
I'm not praising the ACA - I'm saying it was the result of leaving
creating it up to one party while they briefly had full control, because >>> of the deliberate obstinateness of the other party in doing *anything at >>> all*.
"Full control" Both parties assure us if they had both houses and the
presidency they could accomplish their agenda. They never do. As long as
the health care industries and other lobbyists like AIPAC are lining
politicians' pockets you'll get what THEY want and suck it up.
I'm convinced that if the Democrats controlled the House, Senate and the White House, it would be the Democrats who voted for the Iran war and the Republicans would be the ones "trying to rein in the president" (because that's the popular position). I remember when Obama was still president, the Republicans had something like 60 attempts to change or get rid of the Obama Care, a gift to the greedy Health Insurance corporate thieves. When Trump
got elected and had a majority in both the House and Senate, all the sudden the Republicans couldn't figure out how to write bills to get rid of it. I think there were two or halfhearted attempts to do so. They knew they actually would have had a chance, so all the sudden pretending to be against the Obama Care, bought and paid for by Health Care lobbyists could be dangerous to their greed.
On Mon, 18 May 2026 07:20:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 18 May 2026 06:00:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I started on Chinese years ago but it became clear to me to really
learn it I would need lo live there a while.
There are multiple Chinese languages. Presumably you mean Mandarin.
A cousin of mine once learned Mandarin. She had a boyfriend of Chinese
ancestry, who couldnrCOt understand a word of it -- his mother tongue was
Cantonese.
I may have it backwards but I believe Lucy Liu speaks Mandarin. She said
one of her toughest movie jobs was a film where she had to speak
Cantonese.
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