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Gentoo, the lone wolf among GNU/Linux distros, is now, again,
supporting HURD:

<https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd>

Can HURD ever succeed? That depends on YOU. Get off your
fat, lazy asses and offer support.

Then maybe GNU can have its own kernel and be free of the
grubbing corporate domination that now controls Linux.

Note: This is NOT a joke.

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On Wed, 13 May 2026 01:35:31 +0000, Distro Lackey wrote:

Gentoo, the lone wolf among GNU/Linux distros, is now, again,
supporting HURD:

<https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd>

Can HURD ever succeed? That depends on YOU. Get off your fat, lazy
asses and offer support.

Then maybe GNU can have its own kernel and be free of the grubbing
corporate domination that now controls Linux.

Note: This is NOT a joke.

Hurd Sux and so does Gentoo! What type of lackey uses Gentoo, btw?
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On Wed, 13 May 2026 01:35:31 +0000, Distro Lackey wrote:

Gentoo, the lone wolf among GNU/Linux distros, is now, again,
supporting HURD:

<https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd>

Can HURD ever succeed? That depends on YOU. Get off your fat, lazy
asses and offer support.

Then maybe GNU can have its own kernel and be free of the grubbing
corporate domination that now controls Linux.

Note: This is NOT a joke.

HURD is a joke. Apple and Microsoft went to hybrid kernels but Stallman &
Crew persist in trying to make a bad idea from the '90s work.
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oL? 2026/5/13 12:55, rbowman oaOoUo:

On Wed, 13 May 2026 01:35:31 +0000, Distro Lackey wrote:

Gentoo, the lone wolf among GNU/Linux distros, is now, again,
supporting HURD:

<https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd>

Can HURD ever succeed? That depends on YOU. Get off your fat, lazy
asses and offer support.

Then maybe GNU can have its own kernel and be free of the grubbing
corporate domination that now controls Linux.

Note: This is NOT a joke.

HURD is a joke. Apple and Microsoft went to hybrid kernels but Stallman & Crew persist in trying to make a bad idea from the '90s work.

I guess everyone have been treating it as a sideline project, for
people in the academia to teach and learn about microkernels, and
for research. If it ever became a textbook example of some kernel
design paradigm, the goal is achieved.

There is the production kernel after all; those contributing to the
research kernel is, I guess, for fun. Probably for a master's/PhD
thesis or some other paper, too, if they have a brilliant idea that
can push OS development forward. It's definitely not a dedicated,
well-funded crew.
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On Wed, 13 May 2026 13:24:59 +0800, makendo wrote:

I guess everyone have been treating it as a sideline project, for
people in the academia to teach and learn about microkernels, and
for research.

I think microkernels are to OSes what vinyl is to hi-fi audio: a
dead-end technology, an idea whose time is long past.
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On 13/05/2026 02:35, Distro Lackey wrote:

Gentoo, the lone wolf among GNU/Linux distros, is now, again,
supporting HURD:

<https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd>

Can HURD ever succeed? That depends on YOU. Get off your
fat, lazy asses and offer support.

Then maybe GNU can have its own kernel and be free of the
grubbing corporate domination that now controls Linux.

Note: This is NOT a joke.

He who follows the Hurd only sees assholes...
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On 2026-05-13 12:55 a.m., rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2026 01:35:31 +0000, Distro Lackey wrote:

Gentoo, the lone wolf among GNU/Linux distros, is now, again,
supporting HURD:

<https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd>

Can HURD ever succeed? That depends on YOU. Get off your fat, lazy
asses and offer support.

Then maybe GNU can have its own kernel and be free of the grubbing
corporate domination that now controls Linux.

Note: This is NOT a joke.

HURD is a joke. Apple and Microsoft went to hybrid kernels but Stallman & Crew persist in trying to make a bad idea from the '90s work.

The moment GNU/Hurd is actually released, somewhere between now and the
year 2200, I guarantee you that "Distro Lackey" Larry Pietraskiewicz
will be the one guy running it.
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On Wed, 13 May 2026 13:24:59 +0800, makendo wrote:

I guess everyone have been treating it as a sideline project

The HURD works. The Debian project has reported that 75% of
its packages function under HURD.

HURD just needs volunteers, but very few it seems have the
OS development expertise AND the dedication to free software
to enable HURD progress.

(Aside: judging by the replies a lot of people THINK that
they have the necessary expertise to condemn HURD but that
is all just ignorant bluster.)

But as I have stated, the world needs an OS that is totally
controlled by GNU. Linux is becoming more and more ensnared
by corporate (i.e. $$$$) interests. IBM/RedHat, for example,
is forcing Systemd/Wayland to the exclusion of all else because,
in their grubbing view, those are the only way to guarantee
future profits. It won't be too long before the Linux kernel
must incorporate systemd/wayland.

All those who disagree will be long dead before that happens.

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On Wed, 13 May 2026 05:38:15 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Wed, 13 May 2026 13:24:59 +0800, makendo wrote:

I guess everyone have been treating it as a sideline project, for
people in the academia to teach and learn about microkernels, and for
research.

I think microkernels are to OSes what vinyl is to hi-fi audio: a
dead-end technology, an idea whose time is long past.

Even back in the day people recognized the IPC between the user space
modules and the microkernel would be a problem. You could start with the
MACH kernel and create a hybrid unless you were a fanatical purist.
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Le 13-05-2026, makendo <makendo@makendo.invalid> a |-crit-a:

oL? 2026/5/13 12:55, rbowman oaOoUo:

On Wed, 13 May 2026 01:35:31 +0000, Distro Lackey wrote:

Gentoo, the lone wolf among GNU/Linux distros, is now, again,
supporting HURD:

<https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd>

Can HURD ever succeed? That depends on YOU. Get off your fat, lazy
asses and offer support.

Why others should do for you what you can't?

Then maybe GNU can have its own kernel and be free of the grubbing
corporate domination that now controls Linux.

Note: This is NOT a joke.

You are the joke.

HURD is a joke. Apple and Microsoft went to hybrid kernels but Stallman &
Crew persist in trying to make a bad idea from the '90s work.

I guess everyone have been treating it as a sideline project,

I'm not sure about that. Before Linux, there was no alternative and a
kernel was needed for GNU. Then, when Linux started to be real, I guess
a lot of people switched from Hurd to Linux, but I'm far from convinced
that people staying with Hurd stop taking care about it. I guess it was
more difficult than expected. But since the first time I heard about
Hurd, more than thirty years ago, I hear that it will soon be ready. So
I guess that some people were still really involved since the beginning.
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On 16 May 2026 08:30:27 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:

I'm not sure about that. Before Linux, there was no alternative and a
kernel was needed for GNU. Then, when Linux started to be real, I guess
a lot of people switched from Hurd to Linux, but I'm far from convinced
that people staying with Hurd stop taking care about it. I guess it was
more difficult than expected. But since the first time I heard about
Hurd, more than thirty years ago, I hear that it will soon be ready. So
I guess that some people were still really involved since the beginning.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140305151210/http://www.redditblog.com/ 2010/07/rms-ama.html

"RMS: I am not very optimistic about the GNU HURD. It makes some progress,
but to be really superior it would require solving a lot of deep
problems. However, mainly what I think about the HURD is that
finishing it is not crucial."

That is from a 2010 interview. The question and his full answer is #13.

Like AI HURD has been through several 'winters'. The deep problems were apparent in the '90s but the project continued in fits and starts.



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On 16 May 2026 08:30:27 GMT, St|-phane CARPENTIER wrote:

I guess [Hurd] was more difficult than expected.

I wonder why. WasnrCOt the whole point of a microkernel-based
architecture that it was supposed to be easier to get working
reliably? Yet the rCLmonolithicrCY Linux kernel was able to reach
production quality just about a couple of years from its inception, in
spite of venerable CS gurus like Andrew Tanenbaum proclaiming that it
was already rCLobsoleterCY out of the starting gates.
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