• K9 mail program

    From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Sep 22 21:49:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    Hi,

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display the
    photos included in the post. There is no button to "display remote
    images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays perfectly
    in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;

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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.mobile.android on Thu Sep 24 10:39:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Hi,

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display the
    photos included in the post. There is no button to "display remote
    images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays perfectly
    in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML
    formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within the
    e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all,
    default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try
    to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source of the e-mail
    to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    That TB and K9 behave differently could be due to different
    configuration regarding handling of linked content. For TB, I suspect
    it does come installed with linked images blocked, but you decided to
    change that setting. Or, the sender of that e-mail is trusted in TB,
    but wasn't added to K9. You can configure many e-mail clients to
    download everything, included linked content, if the sender is in a
    whitelist or trusted sender list.

    I've never used K9 to know its settings regarding linked content, or if
    it has a trusted sender whitelist.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 03:55:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    VanguardLH wrote:
    I've never used K9 to know its settings

    Likewise, I stopped using K9 email when Google temporarily, for a few
    months, forced everyone to sign into Google for Android email, but then
    very quick Marcel Bokhorst fixed FairEmail (with Tbird help) so that OAUTH worked again, and I never re-loaded K9 email after that, so this is a
    logical assessment of what Carlos' issue "might" be, as I didn't test it.

    Looking at the problem set logically, it sounds like Carlos isolated it to
    K9's handling of remote/embedded images, rather than the email itself.

    The fact that "Download everything" makes the photos appear is a useful
    clue showing that the images are available, but the app isn't automatically fetching them in that message. Since the same email displays correctly in Thunderbird on Carlos' computer, the message itself is probably fine .

    My recommendations, based purely on logical assessment alone, is Carlos
    might want to look for options related to remote images or automatically loading images in
    K9:Settings > account > Fetching mail > Show pictures

    If this logic fails, then I guarantee Carlos gets his money back from me.
    :)
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to comp.mobile.android on Thu Sep 24 17:15:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    "Carlos E.R." wrote:
    Hi,

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display the
    photos included in the post. There is no button to "display remote
    images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays perfectly
    in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    On this tablet I have 'Show remote images' at the top where it's obvious and 'Download complete message' right at the bottom, about 20cm away, where it's not.
    --
    Remove numerics from my email address.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Thu Sep 24 21:15:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2026-09-24 17:39, VanguardLH wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Hi,

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display the
    photos included in the post. There is no button to "display remote
    images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays perfectly
    in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML
    formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within the
    e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all,
    default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try
    to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source of the e-mail
    to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    The images were attached. I think that TB in the computer downloaded it
    all (from the IMAP server, not online), whereas K9 only downloaded the text.


    That TB and K9 behave differently could be due to different
    configuration regarding handling of linked content. For TB, I suspect
    it does come installed with linked images blocked, but you decided to
    change that setting. Or, the sender of that e-mail is trusted in TB,
    but wasn't added to K9. You can configure many e-mail clients to
    download everything, included linked content, if the sender is in a
    whitelist or trusted sender list.

    I've never used K9 to know its settings regarding linked content, or if
    it has a trusted sender whitelist.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Thu Sep 24 21:19:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2026-09-24 19:15, Dave Royal wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." wrote:
    Hi,

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display the
    photos included in the post. There is no button to "display remote
    images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays perfectly
    in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    On this tablet I have 'Show remote images' at the top where it's obvious and 'Download complete message' right at the bottom, about 20cm away, where it's not.


    Yes, but these images are "local".
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to comp.mobile.android on Thu Sep 24 20:05:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    "Carlos E.R." wrote:
    On 2026-09-24 19:15, Dave Royal wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." wrote:
    Hi,

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display the
    photos included in the post. There is no button to "display remote
    images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays perfectly
    in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    On this tablet I have 'Show remote images' at the top where it's obvious and 'Download complete message' right at the bottom, about 20cm away, where it's not.


    Yes, but these images are "local".

    Yes. The presence of the 'Download complete message' button means it's only downloaded part of the message body - often attachments but it can be part of the text on a long email.

    I don't know whether other mobile email clients do the same - I've always used K9.
    --
    Remove numerics from my email address.
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.mobile.android on Thu Sep 24 19:02:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display
    the photos included in the post. There is no button to "display
    remote images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays
    perfectly in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML
    formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within the
    e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all,
    default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try
    to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source of the e-mail
    to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    The images were attached. I think that TB in the computer downloaded it
    all (from the IMAP server, not online), whereas K9 only downloaded the text.

    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum
    size. Someone could send you huge e-mails in which you have no
    interest, so you don't want to waste bandwidth and disk space of
    possibly unwanted content. Might be a sync option in K9 for the
    server/account definition regarding max incoming message size.
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 06:19:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    VanguardLH wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display
    the photos included in the post. There is no button to "display
    remote images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays
    perfectly in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML
    formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within the
    e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all,
    default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try
    to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source of the e-mail
    to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    The images were attached. I think that TB in the computer downloaded it all (from the IMAP server, not online), whereas K9 only downloaded the text.

    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum
    size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Someone could send you huge e-mails in which you have no
    interest, so you don't want to waste bandwidth and disk space of
    possibly unwanted content. Might be a sync option in K9 for the server/account definition regarding max incoming message size.
    --
    Remove numerics from my email address.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 10:36:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display
    the photos included in the post. There is no button to "display
    remote images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays
    perfectly in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML
    formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within the
    e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all,
    default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try >>>> to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source of the e-mail >>>> to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    The images were attached. I think that TB in the computer downloaded it
    all (from the IMAP server, not online), whereas K9 only downloaded the text.

    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum
    size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.
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    "Ave! Morituri te salutant!"
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 12:35:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2026-09-25 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display
    the photos included in the post. There is no button to "display
    remote images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays
    perfectly in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML
    formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within the
    e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all,
    default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try >>>> to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source of the e-mail >>>> to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    The images were attached. I think that TB in the computer downloaded it
    all (from the IMAP server, not online), whereas K9 only downloaded the text.

    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum
    size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Aha. The problem post has 110K.

    Another post (different cinema) was 904K, but was not a problem, because
    the images that are needed for the ticket are not attached, but are
    remote. In that one some times I have to tap "see remote images".
    Somehow the QR code is visible before doing that.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 20:46:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display the photos included in the post. There is no button to "display remote images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays perfectly in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within
    the e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all, default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source
    of the e-mail to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    The images were attached. I think that TB in the computer downloaded
    it all (from the IMAP server, not online), whereas K9 only downloaded the text.

    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum
    size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.

    1) It's a very effective defence against wasting a limited data allowance
    on unwanted stuff.

    2) It's easy to dowload a complete larger message once you've decided
    that it's not a waste of data allowance.

    3) It's easy to set it to a much larger value, even unlimited.

    David
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 22:21:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 25.09.26 21:46, David Higton wrote:
    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J|a-|rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.

    1) It's a very effective defence against wasting a limited data allowance
    on unwanted stuff.

    2) It's easy to dowload a complete larger message once you've decided
    that it's not a waste of data allowance.

    3) It's easy to set it to a much larger value, even unlimited.

    Where do you live? And your list shows me that you not even tried to
    understand what I wrote.

    BTW: We live in a flat rate world.
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)
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  • From David Higton@dave@davehigton.me.uk to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 21:32:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    In message <1196l4i$a3b9$1@solani.org>
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 21:46, David Higton wrote:
    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.

    1) It's a very effective defence against wasting a limited data allowance on unwanted stuff.

    2) It's easy to dowload a complete larger message once you've decided
    that it's not a waste of data allowance.

    3) It's easy to set it to a much larger value, even unlimited.

    Where do you live? And your list shows me that you not even tried to understand what I wrote.

    The UK.

    BTW: We live in a flat rate world.

    Oh no we don't. We very much don't.

    David
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to comp.mobile.android on Fri Sep 25 21:05:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    Dave Royal wrote:

    ... The presence of the 'Download complete message' button means it's only downloaded part of the message body - often attachments but it can be part of the text on a long email.

    I don't know whether other mobile email clients do the same - I've always used K9...

    ... on Android, that is.

    I do have Apple mail on my phone, though I rarely use it. Apparantly it always downloads the entire body text, and the attachments when you click each of them.

    I suspect K9's behaviour may be unusual and due to its age - designed in 2008 according to WikiP. Phones had less memory and data was more expensive then. But that's a guess.

    In practice I only notice the limitation when I forward a very long mail - an table of groceries in an online shop say - without actually reading it to the bottom and seeing the button.
    --
    Remove numerics from my email address.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Sep 26 12:42:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2026-09-25 22:21, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 25.09.26 21:46, David Higton wrote:
    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J|a-|rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.

    1) It's a very effective defence against wasting a limited data allowance
    on unwanted stuff.

    2) It's easy to dowload a complete larger message once you've decided
    that it's not a waste of data allowance.

    3) It's easy to set it to a much larger value, even unlimited.

    Where do you live? And your list shows me that you not even tried to understand what I wrote.

    BTW: We live in a flat rate world.

    Not everybody. I don't. I have a large allowance, much larger than what
    I use, but it is not flat. And I have a secondary phone with only 5 GB.

    And when I travel over the pond, what I get is very much not flat and is
    a short limit.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ESEfc-Efc+, EUEfc-Efc|;
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Sep 26 15:01:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:
    [...]
    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.

    1) It's a very effective defence against wasting a limited data allowance
    on unwanted stuff.

    Exactly! Now, not so much, but I used to have some rather expensive
    pre-paid mobile data in overseas countries, for example in Australia.
    IIRC, I had set lhe fetch limit even lower, some 8KB or so.

    And even in 2024 (have not checked recently), pre-paid roaming charges
    of 4 or even 9 Euro per *MB* were common. Spend a hundred Euro on *one*
    e-mail message, just because my e-mail client doesn't have a limit? I
    don't think so.

    2) It's easy to dowload a complete larger message once you've decided
    that it's not a waste of data allowance.

    Yes, that called flexibility, some people might need to look-up/grasp
    that concept.

    3) It's easy to set it to a much larger value, even unlimited.

    See 2).
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Sat Sep 26 18:30:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 26.09.26 17:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J|a-|rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:
    [...]
    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum
    size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.

    1) It's a very effective defence against wasting a limited data allowance
    on unwanted stuff.

    Exactly! Now, not so much, but I used to have some rather expensive pre-paid mobile data in overseas countries, for example in Australia.
    IIRC, I had set lhe fetch limit even lower, some 8KB or so.

    And even in 2024 (have not checked recently), pre-paid roaming charges
    of 4 or even 9 Euro per *MB* were common. Spend a hundred Euro on *one* e-mail message, just because my e-mail client doesn't have a limit? I
    don't think so.

    *ROTFLSTC*
    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita."
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sat Sep 26 17:50:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    J%rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 26.09.26 17:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:
    [...]
    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum >>>>> size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Which is an absolutely ridiculous figure nowadays.

    1) It's a very effective defence against wasting a limited data allowance >> on unwanted stuff.

    Exactly! Now, not so much, but I used to have some rather expensive pre-paid mobile data in overseas countries, for example in Australia.
    IIRC, I had set lhe fetch limit even lower, some 8KB or so.

    And even in 2024 (have not checked recently), pre-paid roaming charges
    of 4 or even 9 Euro per *MB* were common. Spend a hundred Euro on *one* e-mail message, just because my e-mail client doesn't have a limit? I
    don't think so.

    *ROTFLSTC*

    Sorry that you STC and sorry to rain on your parade, but what I quoted
    are still the current rates [1]. (And no, of course I don't pay that kind
    of money, but get a local SIM instead.)

    And no, I - and many (most?) others - don't want to spend the amount
    of money you're spending, just to get unlimited everything and worldwide roaming. As I said, the concept is called 'flexibility'.

    [1] <https://www.vodafone.nl/content/dam/vodafone/downloads/tarieven/2025/tarievenoverzicht_prepaid_3_december_2025.pdf>
    See 'OVERIGE TARIEVEN' -> 'MOBIEL INTERNET' -> 'Zone 2: Wereld' and 'Zone
    3: Uitzonderingen'
    ('OTHER TARIFFS' -> 'MOBILE INTERNET' -> 'Zone 2: World and 'Zone 3: Exceptions')
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Sun Sep 27 11:30:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 25.09.26 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    VanguardLH wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH wrote:

    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    Just now I noticed in an email that I got that it did not display
    the photos included in the post. There is no button to "display
    remote images". I see it in other emails.

    Mmmm... maybe it is a problem in the mail itself. It displays
    perfectly in Tb on the computer, though.

    Hum! Worked when I tapped "download everything".

    Perhaps the problematic e-mail has links (<A href=URL ...> for HTML
    formatted e-mail) to the images rather than the images are within the
    e-mail itself (inside MIME blocks)? Most e-mail clients, maybe all,
    default to blocking linked images; e.g., to deter web beacons that try >>>> to track when you open an e-mail. Look at the raw source of the e-mail >>>> to determine if the images are linked or embedded.

    The images were attached. I think that TB in the computer downloaded it >>> all (from the IMAP server, not online), whereas K9 only downloaded the text.

    There might be a setting to restrict retrieved e-mails to a maximum
    size.

    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    I just checked Thunderbird on my Pixel: Maximum size allowed is 5 MB.
    N.B.: TB and K9 are identical.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Sun Sep 27 11:41:47 2026
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    On 25.09.26 12:35, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-09-25 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Aha. The problem post has 110K.

    Another post (different cinema) was 904K, but was not a problem, because
    the images that are needed for the ticket are not attached, but are
    remote. In that one some times I have to tap "see remote images".
    Somehow the QR code is visible before doing that.

    Everything under 1 MB allowed size will create problems sooner or later. HTML-code and attachments can easily reach the size you mentioned.

    Even more cost efficient would be to just download the header in IMAP
    accounts and to download only what you really need. POP is a no go
    anyway under these circumstances.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sun Sep 27 13:40:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2026-09-26 17:01, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    In message <1195bqd$956u$2@solani.org>
    J|a-|rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:


    And even in 2024 (have not checked recently), pre-paid roaming charges
    of 4 or even 9 Euro per *MB* were common. Spend a hundred Euro on *one* e-mail message, just because my e-mail client doesn't have a limit? I
    don't think so.

    Yes, I get those prices from my telco if I go across the pond.
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sun Sep 27 18:06:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    J%rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
    On 25.09.26 12:35, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-09-25 08:19, Dave Royal wrote:
    There is: "Fetch messages up to". The default is 32K.

    Aha. The problem post has 110K.

    Another post (different cinema) was 904K, but was not a problem, because the images that are needed for the ticket are not attached, but are remote. In that one some times I have to tap "see remote images".
    Somehow the QR code is visible before doing that.

    Everything under 1 MB allowed size will create problems sooner or later. HTML-code and attachments can easily reach the size you mentioned.

    I don't think that will be a problem. Dave has explained the options
    and you have found that (mobile) Thunderbird does the same as K-9 Mail.

    Not that it means much, but I just checked my (computer) Inbox and only
    a third are over 32KB, with the largest only 193KB. There is a 306KB
    one, but that has 215KB of attachments and - other than you indicate - attachments are not a problem, because the mailer will show that there
    are attachments and you can load them later if they are beyond the
    'Fetch messages up to' limit.

    Even more cost efficient would be to just download the header in IMAP accounts and to download only what you really need. POP is a no go
    anyway under these circumstances.

    Not to get into an IMAP versus POP argument, but POP can also just
    fetch the header(s). See the Account Settings in your computer version
    of Thunderbird ('Fetch headers only'). I use that in a 'guest' account..
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