Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
currently work?
Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
currently work? To make phone calls and send and receive texts It's a Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a current smart phone. Android 2.3.3 https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php
Aha, this coud be a reason:
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
Speed HSPA
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 13:42:39 -0400, micky wrote:
Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
currently work? To make phone calls and send and receive texts It's a
Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a
current smart phone. Android 2.3.3
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php
Aha, this coud be a reason:
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
Speed HSPA
You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
On 07.08.26 16:37, s|b wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 13:42:39 -0400, micky wrote:
Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
currently work? To make phone calls and send and receive texts It's a
Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a
current smart phone. Android 2.3.3
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php
Aha, this coud be a reason:
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
Speed HSPA
You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G
was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
The US are very different ball game with older mobile standards.
The battery will be dead anyway.
Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on DecYou'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
31 where I'm going. I will check about 2
No, I charged the battery for a couple hours and the parts of the phone
that don't need a sim work fine. It has about 12 apps.
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on DecYou'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
31 where I'm going. I will check about 2
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote controllers.
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
31 where I'm going. I will check about 2You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either. >>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on Dec
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
controllers.
Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
- mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
On 2026-08-08 08:50, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either. >>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on Dec >>>> 31 where I'm going. I will check about 2
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
controllers.
Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
- mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
You still have to go out and replace all the client hardware out there,
in the millions. Old cars with eCall systems, for instance.
Efc-Efc- Germany: 2G is still operating. Deutsche Telekom plans to shut it down by June 2028, Vodafone by September 2028, and Telef||nica by the end
of 2028.
Efc?Efc+ Czech Republic: 2G GSM remains available, with shutdown plans
around 2028 according to current operator information/community reporting. Efc#Efc| Lithuania: 2G is expected to remain available until at least 2030.
Efc|Efc# Poland: some operators are planning to retain 2G into roughly 2030.
Efc2Efc+ France: the opposite examplerCoOrange is shutting down 2G progressively, with nationwide mainland shutdown planned by September 2026.
On 08.08.26 09:16, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-08 08:50, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3.-a 3 ended on Dec >>>>> 31 where I'm going.-a I will check about 2You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In
Belgium, 3G
was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last >>>>>>> either.
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote >>>> controllers.
Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
--a mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
You still have to go out and replace all the client hardware out there,
in the millions. Old cars with eCall systems, for instance.
Efc-Efc- Germany: 2G is still operating. Deutsche Telekom plans to shut it >> down by June 2028, Vodafone by September 2028, and Telef||nica by the end
of 2028.
Efc?Efc+ Czech Republic: 2G GSM remains available, with shutdown plans
around 2028 according to current operator information/community
reporting.
Efc#Efc| Lithuania: 2G is expected to remain available until at least 2030. >>
Efc|Efc# Poland: some operators are planning to retain 2G into roughly 2030. >>
Efc2Efc+ France: the opposite examplerCoOrange is shutting down 2G
progressively, with nationwide mainland shutdown planned by September
2026.
This is very cheapish and sloppy AI-crap.
Would you mind to present independent evidence?
My BEV has already eCall with 4G.
https://www.bakom.admin.ch/en/3g-and-2g-shutdown
Mistral generates this:
As of August 2026, the status of 2G and 3G networks in Europe is as
follows:
3G is being phased out before 2G in most European countries. Many
operators have already shut down their 3G networks, with around 19
operators planning to do so by 2025, and more following in the coming
years. For example, in Germany, Vodafone and Deutsche Telekom shut down their 3G networks as early as 2021.
2G is expected to remain operational longer, primarily due to its
continued use in machine-to-machine (M2M) and IoT applications, such as emergency communication systems in elevators and older vehicles. The European Commission has even requested that 2G/3G be preserved until at least 2030 for eCall in some 64 million vehiclesiot.cards.
France is phasing out 2G by the end of 2026, with Orange, SFR, and
Bouygues Telecom all planning to discontinue 2G by this time. 3G
shutdowns in France are expected by 2028 or 2029whereversim.com+3.
Spain is also moving toward shutting down 2G by late 2026 or early 2027, with 3G shutdowns planned for 2028rCo2029whereversim.com+1.
Other countries like Slovakia and Montenegro have already closed or plan
to close their 2G/3G networks by the end of 2026thingsdata.com.
In summary, while 3G is largely being retired across Europe, 2G is being kept alive longer due to its critical role in IoT and legacy systems,
with many shutdowns planned between 2026 and 2030.
In the Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland),
the phase-out of 2G and 3G networks has been particularly rapid:
Sweden: Tele2 and Telia have already switched off both 2G and 3G
networks between 2024 and 2025.
Finland: The country has been undergoing a progressive shutdown of 2G
and 3G networks from 2024 to 2026.
Norway and Denmark: These countries are also among the leaders in Europe
for shutting down legacy networks, with users spending almost no time on 2G/3G networks. The focus has been on transitioning to 4G and 5G, with
3G being phased out before 2G in most cases.
In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely
complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing
their networks for 4G and 5G.
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
31 where I'm going. I will check about 2You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either. >> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on Dec
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote controllers.
Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
- mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
On 2026-08-08 11:44, J||rg Lorenz wrote:
In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely
complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing
their networks for 4G and 5G.
See? The information I posted is correct.
On 08.08.26 14:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-08 11:44, J%rg Lorenz wrote:
In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely
complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing
their networks for 4G and 5G.
See? The information I posted is correct.
No. Because it is more than incomplete which makes them fake news. *My* claims are correct.
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
31 where I'm going. I will check about 2You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either. >>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on Dec
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
controllers.
Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
- mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
In these countries, the transition away from 2G and 3G is largely
complete or nearing completion, as operators prioritize modernizing
their networks for 4G and 5G.
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote controllers.
Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
- mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
On 07.08.26 23:07, micky wrote:
No, I charged the battery for a couple hours and the parts of the phone
that don't need a sim work fine. It has about 12 apps.
How long does it last?
J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either. >>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on Dec >>>> 31 where I'm going. I will check about 2
Because it is used in systems like security alarms, things with remote
controllers.
Nonsense. Most European countries have replaced 2G with newer standards
- mostly 5G - for this purpose years ago.
Switzerland != "Most European countries"
AFAIK, it isn't 2033 yet, but I could be wrong.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G#Phase-out>
In this list, Switzerland is about the only European country which
*is* completely shut down!
As usual, so much for your 'facts'!--
In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 8 Aug 2026 08:50:08 +0200, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 07.08.26 23:20, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2026-08-07 23:07, micky wrote:
You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>>>>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either. >>>> Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on Dec >>>> 31 where I'm going. I will check about 2
I checked. No more 2 where I'm going. I will buy another phone and
manage without a backup phone.
I'm not going to leave it on for days just to prove it works and you're wrong.
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 7 Aug 2026 17:35:49 +0200, J||rg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 07.08.26 16:37, s|b wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 13:42:39 -0400, micky wrote:
Is there any reason a phone from 2012 that uses a sim would not
currently work? To make phone calls and send and receive texts It's a >>>> Huawei U8652, about the size of a bar of soap, but alsmost as thin as a >>>> current smart phone. Android 2.3.3
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_fusion_u8652-4656.php
Aha, this coud be a reason:
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 2100 / 1800
Speed HSPA
You'll have to find out if the network still supports it. In Belgium, 3G >>> was phased out in 2024. 2G is still active, but that won't last either.
Id didn't occur to me that 2 would last longer than 3. 3 ended on Dec
31 where I'm going. I will check about 2
If you want to discontinue older standards, it makes sense to retain 2G,
as at least that'd be a safety net for devices which can't use the newer standards anymore.
I mean, even if it is slated for switch-off in some places already, it
does make sense that e.g. 3G gets sunset before 2G.
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