• People =?UTF-8?B?Y2Fu4oCZdCBmaW5kIGpvYnMsIGpvYnMgY2Fu4oCZdA==?= find people; =?UTF-8?B?d2hv4oCZcw==?= to blame?

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Sun Jan 4 00:41:00 2026
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    This article about the ongoing difficulties of people trying to find
    jobs, while at the same time employers seem unable to find people to
    fill their job positions, seems to put the primary blame on AI <https://www.thepost.co.nz/business/360905126/people-cant-find-jobs-jobs-cant-find-people-whos-blame>.
    Specifically, employers are relying too much on AI-generated
    situations-vacant ads, which leave out important information about the
    actual job situation. And so they get too many applicants who are
    unsuited to that actual job situation.

    Interesting to compare this part

    IrCOm not advising anyone to be a luddite here, but at a certain
    time we have AI talking to AI whorCOs talking to AI. Hiring is an
    inherently human process and unfortunately no AI (that I know of)
    can screen for personality, fit within a team or attitude.

    with this part

    The uncomfortable truth? If you wouldn't give your all to a role,
    employers can sense it.

    If the employers are using AI to screen their applicants, then
    probably they wonrCOt rCLsenserCY any such thing ...
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Sat Feb 14 23:20:30 2026
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    On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 00:41:00 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    This article about the ongoing difficulties of people trying to find
    jobs, while at the same time employers seem unable to find people to
    fill their job positions, seems to put the primary blame on AI <https://www.thepost.co.nz/business/360905126/people-cant-find-jobs-jobs-cant-find-people-whos-blame>.

    This article <https://www.stuff.co.nz/money/360937900/he-was-rejected-120-seconds-award-winning-workers-brutal-nine-month-humbling-job-market>
    seems to suggest that prospective employers are building what I would
    describe as an rCLAI wallrCY to screen out job applicants. The rules for submitting high-quality job applications donrCOt seem to work any more,
    so itrCOs now back down to whom you know, not what you know: personal networking becomes a better path to getting a job than trying to
    negotiate the increasingly futile automated-filter gauntlet.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to comp.misc on Tue Feb 17 18:22:15 2026
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    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/money/360937900/he-was-rejected-120-seconds-award-winning-workers-brutal-nine-month-humbling-job-market>
    seems to suggest that prospective employers are building what I would >describe as an AI wall to screen out job applicants. The rules for
    submitting high-quality job applications don't seem to work any more,
    so it's now back down to whom you know, not what you know: personal >networking becomes a better path to getting a job than trying to
    negotiate the increasingly futile automated-filter gauntlet.

    This predates popular AI. A decade ago, employers were using online submission systems, and many of them were receiving thousands upon
    thousands of entries from people who were spamming resumes to as many
    open positions as possible.

    This leads to aggressive keyword filtering, and some of that filtering
    was not necessarily well-designed. We had open a job for RF engineers
    with master's degrees in EE and for some reason the letter or resume
    had to mention that the applicant had taken high school algebra for it
    to pass through the filter.

    So... this caused a disaster. What you are seeing now is that misguided
    HR departments, realizing that the process is currently a disaster, have
    now deployed AI filtering in place of simple keyword searches. The end
    result is a new and different disaster but not much different than the
    original disaster.

    Personal networking is really the most effective way to get any sort of position, but it may not be enough. Even if the employer wants to hire
    you, HE then has to get you through the HR department filter hurdles.... --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From arnold@arnold@freefriends.org (Aharon Robbins) to comp.misc on Wed Feb 18 13:56:21 2026
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    In article <10n2t77$5s1$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Personal networking is really the most effective way to get any sort of >position, but it may not be enough. Even if the employer wants to hire
    you, HE then has to get you through the HR department filter hurdles.... >--scott

    The last two jobs I had before retiring were found through headhunters.
    At least in my country, the employer pays the headhunter, not the
    employee, so that may be an option to pursue for someone looking.
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