• If I Buy Something, Do I Own It? (Yet Again)

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Sun Sep 13 00:40:05 2026
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    There is a class-action lawsuit against Sony claiming that it doesnrCOt
    make it clear, when clicking buttons marked rCLBuyrCY and rCLPurchaserCY while paying for PlayStation games, that in fact the customer is buying
    nothing resembling a property right, just a limited, revocable licence
    to play the game.

    Sony wants the suit thrown out on the grounds that rCLreasonablerCY
    customers would not be misled into believing that they own what they
    buy.

    To counter that, a group called the Consumer Rights Wiki has compiled
    a list of instances, up to 44 long and counting, where Sony does quite
    clearly say that buyers rCLownrCY what they buy.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/playstation/consumer-rights-wiki-documents-at-least-44-instances-in-which-sony-says-you-own-your-games-project-is-direct-assault-on-sonys-claim-in-recent-ownership-lawsuit>

    The fundamental issue itself isnrCOt new; whatrCOs new is it is coming to
    a head now that Sony wants to do away with the sale of physical media,
    leaving buyers with nothing they can call their own, if and when the
    company should decide to make a product simply disappear, as it has
    done in the past.
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  • From Lane W@cactus_DAC@yahoo.com to comp.misc on Sat Sep 12 18:55:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    There is a class-action lawsuit against Sony claiming that it doesnrCOt
    make it clear, when clicking buttons marked rCLBuyrCY and rCLPurchaserCY while
    paying for PlayStation games, that in fact the customer is buying
    nothing resembling a property right, just a limited, revocable licence
    to play the game.

    Sony wants the suit thrown out on the grounds that rCLreasonablerCY
    customers would not be misled into believing that they own what they
    buy.

    To counter that, a group called the Consumer Rights Wiki has compiled
    a list of instances, up to 44 long and counting, where Sony does quite clearly say that buyers rCLownrCY what they buy.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/playstation/consumer-rights-wiki-documents-at-least-44-instances-in-which-sony-says-you-own-your-games-project-is-direct-assault-on-sonys-claim-in-recent-ownership-lawsuit>

    The fundamental issue itself isnrCOt new; whatrCOs new is it is coming to
    a head now that Sony wants to do away with the sale of physical media, leaving buyers with nothing they can call their own, if and when the
    company should decide to make a product simply disappear, as it has
    done in the past.

    Notice that Sony does nothing to assure people that they won't
    "disappear" their games, but is relentlessly focused elsewhere in the
    lawsuit.
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.misc on Sun Sep 13 08:25:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 2026-09-13, Lane W wrote:

    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    There is a class-action lawsuit against Sony claiming that it doesnrCOt
    make it clear, when clicking buttons marked rCLBuyrCY and rCLPurchaserCY while
    paying for PlayStation games, that in fact the customer is buying
    nothing resembling a property right, just a limited, revocable licence
    to play the game.

    Sony wants the suit thrown out on the grounds that rCLreasonablerCY
    customers would not be misled into believing that they own what they
    buy.

    To counter that, a group called the Consumer Rights Wiki has compiled
    a list of instances, up to 44 long and counting, where Sony does quite
    clearly say that buyers rCLownrCY what they buy.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/playstation/consumer-rights-wiki-documents-at-least-44-instances-in-which-sony-says-you-own-your-games-project-is-direct-assault-on-sonys-claim-in-recent-ownership-lawsuit>

    The fundamental issue itself isnrCOt new; whatrCOs new is it is coming to
    a head now that Sony wants to do away with the sale of physical media,
    leaving buyers with nothing they can call their own, if and when the
    company should decide to make a product simply disappear, as it has
    done in the past.

    Notice that Sony does nothing to assure people that they won't
    "disappear" their games, but is relentlessly focused elsewhere in the lawsuit.

    It's perhaps worth mentioning that this is Sony. So anyone expecting
    good will or reasonable intents from Sony better gear up for
    disappointment.

    These are the people who insisted in selling non-CD-DA "audio CDs", that required a Windows (according to wiki, on some versions MacOS would do
    too?) system and which installed malware. Malware in which Sony
    committed copyright and GPL violations.

    Massive overengineering for pure evil, privacy violations and possibly
    causing wide damage by installing malware, instead of using CD-DA...

    <https://enwp.org/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal>
    --
    Nuno Silva
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