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Hello!

Sendmail uses db5.3 databases for aliases, accessdb, virtuser etc.

Debian wants to remove that as Oracle changed the license.

Are there already good alternatives for it?
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Marco Moock wrote:

Sendmail uses db5.3 databases for aliases, accessdb, virtuser etc.

sendmail can (mostly) use whatever the OS provides.

Debian wants to remove that as Oracle changed the license.

Older BDB versions are still available and work fine, right?

Are there already good alternatives for it?

8.16.1/8.16.1 2020/07/05
....
Add CDB as map type. Note: CDB is a "Constant DataBase", i.e.,
no changes can be made after it is created, hence it
does not work with vacation(1) nor editmap(8) (except
for query mode).
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On 03.10.2025 12:21 Claus A|fmann <INVALID_NO_CC_REMOVE_IF_YOU_DO_NOT_POST_ml+sendmail(-no-copies-please)@esmtp.org>
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Marco Moock wrote:

Sendmail uses db5.3 databases for aliases, accessdb, virtuser etc.

sendmail can (mostly) use whatever the OS provides.

How can I use that?

Debian wants to remove that as Oracle changed the license.

Older BDB versions are still available and work fine, right?

No, some compilation and security issues exist(ed) in Debian and
removal is considered.

Are there already good alternatives for it?

8.16.1/8.16.1 2020/07/05
....
Add CDB as map type. Note: CDB is a "Constant DataBase", i.e.,
no changes can be made after it is created, hence it
does not work with vacation(1) nor editmap(8) (except
for query mode).

How can that be used?
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Marco Moock wrote:

How can I use that?

Have you read the fine documentation?

+----------------------+
| DATABASE DEFINITIONS |
+----------------------+

.... read on ...
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Am 03.10.2025 um 12:21:11 Uhr schrieb Claus A|fmann:

8.16.1/8.16.1 2020/07/05
....
Add CDB as map type. Note: CDB is a "Constant DataBase", i.e.,
no changes can be made after it is created, hence it
does not work with vacation(1) nor editmap(8) (except
for query mode).

The Debian maintainer has now enabled CDB support (-DCDB=2) altogether
with NEWDB=5.3, but cdb doesn't show up in -d0.13 and the cdb stuff is
not available:
map access: class cdb not available
Kaccess cdb -T<TMPF> /etc/mail/access
Is that way of compilation supported?
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Marco Moock wrote:

The Debian maintainer has now enabled CDB support (-DCDB=2) altogether
with NEWDB=5.3, but cdb doesn't show up in -d0.13 and the cdb stuff is
not available:

What exactly are the compile time options?

Maybe you can try it yourself? It's pretty trivial to compile
sendmail.
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On 26.10.2025 14:28 Uhr Claus A|fmann wrote:

Marco Moock wrote:

The Debian maintainer has now enabled CDB support (-DCDB=2)
altogether with NEWDB=5.3, but cdb doesn't show up in -d0.13 and
the cdb stuff is not available:

What exactly are the compile time options?

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/sendmail/-/blob/main/debian/configure.ac?ref_type=heads

Maybe you can try it yourself? It's pretty trivial to compile
sendmail.

I tried, but on my machine it fails:
| ^
vfscanf.c:249:30: error: assignment to rCyULONGLONG_T (*)(const char *, char **, int)rCO {aka rCylong long unsigned int (*)(const char *, char **, int)rCO} from incompatible pointer type rCyULONGLONG_T (*)(void)rCO {aka rCylong long unsigned int (*)(void)rCO} [-Wincompatible-pointer-types]
249 | ccfn = (ULONGLONG_T (*)())sm_strtoll;
| ^
vfscanf.c:327:30: error: assignment to rCyULONGLONG_T (*)(const char *, char **, int)rCO {aka rCylong long unsigned int (*)(const char *, char **, int)rCO} from incompatible pointer type rCyULONGLONG_T (*)(void)rCO {aka rCylong long unsigned int (*)(void)rCO} [-Wincompatible-pointer-types]
327 | ccfn = (ULON (ULONGLONG_T (*)()) sm_strtoll; | ^
I will have to investigate the cause.
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On 2025-10-03 12:21, Claus A|fmann wrote:

Add CDB as map type. Note: CDB is a "Constant DataBase", i.e.,
no changes can be made after it is created, hence it
does not work with vacation(1) nor editmap(8) (except
for query mode).

Any consideration of SQLite as a key-value store? Always wondered why support was never added for this?
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Anthony Howe wrote:

Any consideration of SQLite as a key-value store? Always wondered why support
was never added for this?

Because nobody wrote a patch and is willing to support it?
That's the way PH_MAP made it into the sendmail code.

Alternatively: maybe it's simpler to write a "wrapper"
for your favorite DB using the socketmap interface?
Then there's no need to add and maintain code in sendmail,
just use a generic interface.
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Marco Moock wrote:

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/sendmail/-/blob/main/debian/configure.ac?ref_type=heads

Doesn't load with w3m.

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On 01.11.2025 14:28 Uhr Claus A|fmann wrote:

Marco Moock wrote:

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/sendmail/-/blob/main/debian/configure.ac?ref_type=heads

Doesn't load with w3m.

I've now copied that to my server: http://dorfdsl.de/configure.ac
You can also retrieve the debian sendmail repo via git
git clone https://salsa.debian.org/debian/sendmail.git
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Marco Moock wrote:

I've now copied that to my server: http://dorfdsl.de/configure.ac

Nice, but this is not the site.*.m4 file which is used when compiling
sendmail.

It might be something that generate such files but it is useless
to determine what is going on during the compilation.
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On 02.11.2025 05:13 Uhr Claus A|fmann wrote:

Marco Moock wrote:

I've now copied that to my server: http://dorfdsl.de/configure.ac

Nice, but this is not the site.*.m4 file which is used when compiling sendmail.

It might be something that generate such files but it is useless
to determine what is going on during the compilation.

I've now tarballed the entire folder:
http://dorfdsl.de/sendmail.tar
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Marco Moock wrote:

On 02.11.2025 05:13 Uhr Claus A|fmann wrote:

Nice, but this is not the site.*.m4 file which is used when compiling sendmail.

http://dorfdsl.de/sendmail.tar

Still no site.*.m4 file in devtoosl/Site/
hence no CDB.

Maybe you should take this up with the people at Debian?
They seem to have a different way to build sendmail / select
compile time options.
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