• Re: [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR]

    From Chime Hart@chime@hubert-humphrey.com to comp.mail.pine on Thu Jul 30 16:24:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    Well, in several threads from 2004-2022 I read all messages on this topic. While I don't have a fix, as I am not a programmer, I did some experimenting. First I thought that useing an aggregat command over many hours seemed to cause
    this behavior. No, happens with or without an aggregat. Then I tried opening 2 separate sessions of Alpine among both a desktop-and-a laptop, both in Debian SID, both over IMAP. Well, when the folders would close, they were on both machines at similar times. Its really nice having an option of opening Alpine on 2 separate machines. An even more anoying aspect of the folder becoming read
    only, any aggregat items are not marked any more, but messages already read-and-deleted would be expunged upon leaving Alpine. For at least 2years a folder called "fastmail" is receiving new mail, but the local mailbox is in /var/mail/chime-and-used to automaticly receive new messages. I have a suspicion that if I were reading in my local mailbox, I might not have a folder
    closed by an access error. I am running fetchmail-and-exim4 but don't really understand what if any changes to always have newer mail endup in /var/mail/chime? Before I only had folder close while in news groups. An only way I could test would be to move several hundred messages manually-and-read in
    that folder, but I probably wouldn't hear the bell ring for new mail. Thanks so much in advance
    Chime

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  • From Jim Jackson@jj@franjam.org.uk to comp.mail.pine on Mon Aug 3 21:15:58 2026
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    On 2026-07-30, Chime Hart <chime@hubert-humphrey.com> wrote:
    Well, in several threads from 2004-2022 I read all messages on this topic. While I don't have a fix, as I am not a programmer, I did some experimenting.
    First I thought that useing an aggregat command over many hours seemed to cause
    this behavior. No, happens with or without an aggregat. Then I tried opening 2
    separate sessions of Alpine among both a desktop-and-a laptop, both in Debian
    SID, both over IMAP. Well, when the folders would close, they were on both machines at similar times. Its really nice having an option of opening Alpine
    on 2 separate machines. An even more anoying aspect of the folder becoming read
    only, any aggregat items are not marked any more, but messages already read-and-deleted would be expunged upon leaving Alpine. For at least 2years a
    folder called "fastmail" is receiving new mail, but the local mailbox is in /var/mail/chime-and-used to automaticly receive new messages. I have a suspicion that if I were reading in my local mailbox, I might not have a folder
    closed by an access error. I am running fetchmail-and-exim4 but don't really understand what if any changes to always have newer mail endup in /var/mail/chime? Before I only had folder close while in news groups. An only
    way I could test would be to move several hundred messages manually-and-read in
    that folder, but I probably wouldn't hear the bell ring for new mail. Thanks
    so much in advance
    Chime

    I think it would depend on the IMAP server you were connecting to. I get
    the same behaviour as you when accessing my imap server (the Uni of
    Washington imap server I have running on my home server).

    The server has to maintain consistancy on the mailboxes it is serving
    and having more than one instance read and writing randomly can corrupt things. File locking etc can mitigate this, as can the mailbox format
    being used. But sometimes it's just easier for the imap server to
    make one instance readonly.

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