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Dear alpiners,

When I try to create my own keyword flag and add it to a mail in Maildir folders or in Imap folders alpine tells me "Cannot add keywords for this folder".

Do you have any ideas where I can start to look to fix this problem?

The built in flags serve me well, but it would be very convenient to be
able to add my own custom flags as well.

Best regards,
Daniel

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On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, D wrote:

Dear alpiners,

When I try to create my own keyword flag and add it to a mail in Maildir folders or in Imap folders alpine tells me "Cannot add keywords for this folder".

Do you have any ideas where I can start to look to fix this problem?

The built in flags serve me well, but it would be very convenient to be able to add my own custom flags as well.

Best regards,
Daniel

Dear all,

In case it helps, here's an excerpt from the log file:

Folder "x Inbox" opened with 2,323 messages
- process_cmd(cmd=728) -
- flag message -
Want_to read: ^T (0x14)
Already at end of screen
Already at end of screen
=== mm_exists(2323,/home/db/Mail/x/Inbox) called ===
Cannot add keywords for this folder
- process_cmd(cmd=507) -
MAIL_CMD: going to folder/collection menu
=== folder_screen called ====
---- FOLDER LISTER ----
=== mm_exists(2323,/home/db/Mail/x/Inbox) called ===
No flags changed.

Best regards,
Daniel

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On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, D wrote:

Dear alpiners,

When I try to create my own keyword flag and add it to a mail in Maildir folders or in Imap folders alpine tells me "Cannot add keywords for this folder".

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these
were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented in
the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir format. That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that folder.
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Eduardo
https://alpineapp.email (web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2024, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, D wrote:

Dear alpiners,

When I try to create my own keyword flag and add it to a mail in Maildir
folders or in Imap folders alpine tells me "Cannot add keywords for this
folder".

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented in the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir format. That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that folder.

Thank you very much Eduardo!

So instead of just using the Maildir patch, I'd instead just install a
local dovecot and point Alpine towards that?

Not as elegant perhaps, but at least a solution to the problem if I
understood you correctly.

Thank you very much! =)
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On Sun, 28 Jul 2024, D wrote:

So instead of just using the Maildir patch, I'd instead just install a
local dovecot and point Alpine towards that?

Yes, that is the way to do that.
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Eduardo
https://alpineapp.email (web)
http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)
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On Sun, 28 Jul 2024, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2024, D wrote:

So instead of just using the Maildir patch, I'd instead just install a
local dovecot and point Alpine towards that?

Yes, that is the way to do that.

Great, thank you Eduardo and let me wish you a pleasant sunday evening! =)
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On Sun, 28 Jul 2024, D wrote:

Great, thank you Eduardo and let me wish you a pleasant sunday evening!
=)

Thank you! Have a great day you too as well.
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 21:10:48 +0000, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

On Tue, 23 Jul 2024, D wrote:

Dear alpiners,

When I try to create my own keyword flag and add it to a mail in Maildir
folders or in Imap folders alpine tells me "Cannot add keywords for this
folder".

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these
were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented in
the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir
format.
That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that folder.

Hello, does the same limitation apply to the mbox format?
Because I'm getting the same message as mentioned above.

Thanks
Michal

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, rebel wrote:

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these
were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented
in the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir
format. That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that
folder.

Hello, does the same limitation apply to the mbox format? Because I'm getting the same message as mentioned above.

mbox is a little bit different. alpine supports keywords in these folders,
but it accepts only up to 32. i do not know if all email programs save
them in the same way, since there is no standard on how to save keywords
in a folder.
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On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, rebel wrote:

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these >>> were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented in >>> the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir format. >>> That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that folder.

Hello, does the same limitation apply to the mbox format? Because I'm
getting the same message as mentioned above.

mbox is a little bit different. alpine supports keywords in these folders, but it accepts only up to 32. i do not know if all email programs save them in the same way, since there is no standard on how to save keywords in a folder.

Hello Eduardo,

Since my keywords would only be used on my local system, do you think it
would be feasible to modify alpine so that it stores keywords associated
with emails, as extended attributes of the file in the Maildir folder?

Do you think this could work, or would I risk creating some kind of mess
or unforeseen consequences as a result?

Best regards,
Daniel

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On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 1:12:32 +0000, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, rebel wrote:

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these
were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented
in the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir
format. That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that
folder.

Hello, does the same limitation apply to the mbox format? Because I'm
getting the same message as mentioned above.

mbox is a little bit different. alpine supports keywords in these
folders, but it accepts only up to 32. i do not know if all email
programs save them in the same way, since there is no standard on
how to save keywords in a folder.

Interestingly, I am getting the same error message for an mbox folder:
"Cannot add keywords for this folder". So for some reason it doesn't
seem to work (alpine 2.26).

Any ideas where to look for the culprit (or how to fix it)?

Thanks
Michal

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On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, rebel wrote:

On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 1:12:32 +0000, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, rebel wrote:

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these >>>> were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented
in the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir
format. That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that >>>> folder.

Hello, does the same limitation apply to the mbox format? Because I'm
getting the same message as mentioned above.

mbox is a little bit different. alpine supports keywords in these
folders, but it accepts only up to 32. i do not know if all email
programs save them in the same way, since there is no standard on
how to save keywords in a folder.

Interestingly, I am getting the same error message for an mbox folder: "Cannot add keywords for this folder". So for some reason it doesn't
seem to work (alpine 2.26).

Any ideas where to look for the culprit (or how to fix it)?

Thanks
Michal

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One place to start could be to have a look in the journal. It is
accessible by pressing "J" in the main menu. You can also toggle the debug level of messages to get more information.
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On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 1:12:32 +0000, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, rebel wrote:

Local access to a maildir folder does not accept keywords because these
were not part of the original specification of the Maildir format.

There are extensions of the Maildir format, such as those implemented
in the Dovecot server, that accept keywords for messages in a maildir
format. That might be a way to get keywords into your messages in that
folder.

Hello, does the same limitation apply to the mbox format? Because I'm
getting the same message as mentioned above.

mbox is a little bit different. alpine supports keywords in these
folders, but it accepts only up to 32. i do not know if all email
programs save them in the same way, since there is no standard on
how to save keywords in a folder.

It doesn't seem to work for me even for mbox. Whatever I try I get
the "Cannot add keywords for this folder" message.

I've tried to debug this but the log doesn't show anything interesting.
Is there any way to see what's going on, why it doesn't work?

Thanks
Michal

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